thecookingsenpai,
@thecookingsenpai@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly Proton is great but Windows for gaming is still the best of the three main oses

Titou,

nah you’re wrong, in term of performances

expr,

I’ve yet to find games I can’t play on Linux these days.

pipows,
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar

Game Pass

Swarfega,

All my games run great. I have one annoying issue that I haven’t worked out the root cause of yet. But basically the issue is the computer goes to sleep/black screen whilst I’m playing with a joypad. It obviously thinks the PC is idle. However It doesn’t happen with Stardew Valley so I’m thinking the issue is non-native Linux games. Currently I’m playing Dredge which is Windows only so running via Proton in Steam.

vardogor,
@vardogor@mander.xyz avatar

do you use KDE? it’s a known, old issue unfortunately. to fix, you can use: “gamemoderun %command%” as a steam launch option for each game, or you can use this as a universal solution: github.com/foresto/joystickwake

Swarfega,

I do yes! Thanks. I’ll take a look.

edit. Oof. A 10 year old issue.

vardogor,
@vardogor@mander.xyz avatar

yeah, haha. interestingly, i don’t have this problem, but i’m aware of the issue because i used to some years ago. so maybe it’s only with certain gamepads or something? that’d explain why it hasn’t had more eyes

guskikalola,

@thecookingsenpai @Titou Yet has to be said, I've been using linux for gaming for almost 2 years now, the amount of games you can play now compared to PlayOnLinux era is impressive.
I only run into issues when the game uses windows only anti-cheats, but I don't have many of those games ( I said goodbye to League now that they are adding Vanguard ), therefor I can play fully on Linux.

thecookingsenpai,
@thecookingsenpai@lemmy.world avatar

On this i completely agree (although 9 days later)

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

depending on what kind of games you play.
if you play mostly offline or indie games, you won’t notice any difference.
like half of online/live services games (e.g. League of Legends, Rainbow Six Siege) that include anticheats are borked

robocall,

I’d like to know more about Chex quest

Blankmann,

It’s The Ultimate Doom but re-skinned to be Chex cereal themed and “non-violent”

Mcballs1234,
@Mcballs1234@lemmy.ml avatar
gnate,

*The “HD remaster”

Rooter,

It would be more relevant if the cap had the apple logo.

Integrate777,

My favourite game Dead or Alive Xtreme Venus Vacation works again. Ciao!

HRDS_654,

Why would Windows users be crying. Most users have ambivalence/hate relationship with it.

gnate,

Right, judging by the image, I assumed some of those games would run on Linux, but not Windows. Which didn’t make a lot of sense for a 90s Windows game.

jaschen,

Um, I tried Mint for gaming and while the community is strong on helping me figure out what was wrong with my video drivers and my Logitech steering wheel, i realized I could just not run Linux and spend the time actually playing my working game on Windows.

I’m not a Windows fanboy. The majority of people just want a turn key experience. Linux(for now) is not yet a trouble free experience.

Titou,

what was your issue exactly ?

KneeTitts, (edited )
@KneeTitts@lemmy.world avatar

Wine is an awesome feat of engineering to be sure, but even the gold level compatibility Windows games dont always work out of the box on any linux distro without a bunch of tweaks, installation of drivers, windows DLLs etc etc. Its time consuming and people dont have time, thats a huge issue.

Another issue is when the inevitable distro update comes, you have a 50/50 chance of all those tweaks having to be done again (for each game) if something with the upgrade goes sideways. Even just updating wine itself can occasionally break things, and then you are back in the support forum looking for answers… for hours… instead of just playing the game. For slightly more advanced users I think Lutris is the way to go, you can configure the games yourself and launch them with various versions of wine or proton, and that seems to work pretty well in most cases.

The right answer is for game manufactures to make the games for Linux, so the right answer is to get Linux desktop market share up over 10%, thats the only way to force the issue.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Another issue is when the inevitable distro update comes, you have a 50/50 chance of all those tweaks having to be done again (for each game) if something with the upgrade goes sideways.

I get daily updates on my Fedora/KDE install, and I’ve never seen that happen, and I’m a avid gamer, playing games each and every day.

Also, you don’t install Wine yourself directly into the OS, so you don’t have to worry about it breaking with a new OS update.

You install a manager for Wine, like Bottles. Between Bottles and Steam, games install and run to the point you can’t even tell you’re running them on Linux.

Bottles will even let you link your Bottles installed game into Steam, so you see it in your games list just like any other Steam game.

jaschen,

Initially, the game ran like a potato with input lag. Prime run was missing and then a few visits to forums and finally got the game to run at normal frame rates, which isn’t faster than Windows. Then it would randomly lag. 120fps to 30 back to 120.

Then there was the issue with my Logitech 928 wheel, shifter and pedals. It straight doesn’t work and gave up figuring it out when I found that even at the highest fps, it was just equal to Windows.

So basically I’m installing Forza Horizon 5 but with extra steps with no gain.

ma1w4re,

Bro tried one distro and condemned the entire span of Linux systems. Aight.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Bro tried one distro and condemned the entire span of Linux systems. Aight.

Seems to be a reoccurring running theme.

ma1w4re,

Then don’t use linux. Whats the problem? There’s perfectly fine Windows for normal people.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Bro tried one distro and condemned the entire span of Linux systems. Aight.

Seems to be a reoccurring running theme.

Then don’t use linux. Whats the problem? There’s perfectly fine Windows for normal people.

Think you’re missing the point.

Seems very purposeful and repetitive.

NeatNit,

You realise that having to try a whole bunch of other distros is so much worse compared to the “turn key experience” they’re after, right? And it’s a valid complaint. I generally agree with the sentiment, even though I’ve more or less sworn off Windows whenever I can possibly avoid it.

mutter9355,

Add to this that running Steam on Linux Mint is probably the most “turn-key” Linux gaming experience you’ll probably get

jaschen,

Blame the user and not the product. What are you, Tim Apple?

gmtom,

Bro didn’t even spend two weeks of his life fucking around with different distros and trying various workarounds and hacks trying to get them to work with his games before he just went back to playing games on a system he knows works. Aight

rab,

Nobody using Windows is sad about this like the meme suggests however. Literally no one is “team windows” lol

Titou,

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  • sxan,
    @sxan@midwest.social avatar

    Hey, just FYI, because these English rules about contractions can be very complex and confusing: you would never contract in this case. You would always write out “there is.” One helpful way to think about it is that “there is” is only contracted if it’s followed by an object:

    • There’s a spider in the room!
    • There’s the problem!

    but if it’s followed by punctuation, don’t contract it:

    • He thinks there isn’t, but there is**.**
    • There is**,** and it is large.
    anakin78z,
    @anakin78z@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean, I use Windows more than Linux, but seeing the news that it’s easier to play games on Linux is great. And from a dev perspective, if I more stuff just works on Linux, fucking fantastic.

    bouh,

    That’s wrong. It’s definitely not most people, but many are undoubtedly team windows people.

    HStone32,

    Nobody is actively team windows, but they immediately become team windows as soon as you suggest they try Linux.

    gmtom,

    Maybe because people just don’t care for unsolicited “advice” from Linux nerds?

    rmuk,

    Yeah, I’m a full-time Linux user but there are a lot of people who just seem to use Linux as a replacement for a personality and it’s fucking awful.

    Not limited to just Linux, obvs, but it’s the topic de jure.

    Justinianx74,

    No, there has to be a different reason women won’t talk to me

    Yerbouti,

    still waiting for Alley Cat.

    ExfilBravo,

    MF CHEX QUEST?!?!

    nickwitha_k,

    Not just that but an HD re-release supported by the original creators, approved by General Mills, and last I checked, free. It ran flawlessly on my deck a few months back.

    answersplease77,

    I thought proton is an email/vpn company, do they have a gaming client like steam?

    qwertychomp,

    It’s the name of the wine-like thing that steam uses to run pc games on linux

    0ops,

    This proton isn’t affiliated with the one you’re talking about. Proton is a tool that valve developed based on wine that lets windows games run on Linux, especially the steamdeck

    github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton

    answersplease77,

    I wish you answer me one more question. I bought games on steam that later found they’re “Windows only”. I can’t play these games on the steam I installed on my linux pc. I can only play them on the steam of my windows pc.

    Can I play them on linux using Proton? If yes, then this might allow me remove windows from my life completely

    Da_Boom,
    @Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    Some games proton might not be enabled by default - on Linux go into the steam game settings for the game you want, click the compatibility page, and check the box “Force the use of a specific Steam Play compatibility tool”, select the version - if one doesn’t work, try another - proton 8 is a good start, proton experimental is usually a good second option. Wait for steam to download proton if it hasn’t already, and the game should now play like normal

    Note: some games might require additional configuration, or custom versions of proton to work. Other games won’t work due to anticheat.

    www.ProtonDB.com is a good option to check on games and see how to get the more complicated ones running.

    Areweanticheatyet.com is a good way to see what games that have anticheat will work and what won’t work.

    For non steam games running proton try installing the heroic games launcher - it’s like a combined launcher for Epic, Gog and Amazon Games.

    Floshie,

    lookup “protondb”

    Rustmilian, (edited )
    @Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

    Steam → Settings → Compatibility → Steam Play → Enable Steam Play for supported titles & Enable Steam Play for all other titles

    0ops,

    Search for the game you’re looking to run on this site: www.protondb.com

    If it runs, you’ll find reports on what it took to make it happen, if anything, and how well it runs

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    If it runs, you’ll find reports on what it took to make it happen, if anything, and how well it runs

    Kind of wish those comments/reports were curated better though, as they get old fast, and may contradict themselves after a certain time, offering what is now bad advice.

    You kind of learn not to look at the older comments when you’re looking for a particular game.

    HotPurplePeach,
    @HotPurplePeach@lemmy.world avatar

    Yep, even if the game is Windows only and you’re a Linux guy, you go into the Steam properties/settings for that game, click on the Compatibility tab, and then check the “Force the use of a specific Steam Play compatibility tool”. Chances are the game will work fine, but if it doesn’t you can try some other version of Proton. Alternatively, there is also Wine but I didn’t touch it yet and heard it’s a pain in the a**

    FangedWyvern42,
    @FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

    Click Properties, then Compatibility. Select a Proton version from the menu. It should allow your games to run.

    Hazrod,

    Yes you can, on Linux steam, go to the game’s properties, then click on the compatibility tab, and finally check the"force the use of…" Line. You should then be able to install the windows game on Linux and play it using the proton tool automatically

    onelikeandidie,

    If you can’t find that tab, it could also be because you need to go to steam settings and enable steam play for all titles (which will let you use Proton with any game)

    Tartas1995,

    Look the games up in protondb for user experiences. Also Proton is not a Garantie. I have a great experience with proton and steam deck is running with proton, so valve makes money with proton and improve it daily. But it is NOT A SURE THING.

    Again great tool, but it has a limit. E.g. valorant doesn’t run.

    NeatNit,

    you seem to have French’d the guarantee

    Tartas1995,

    I am not sure… I am bad with languages and have been forced to learn too many. Could have been french kicking in, idk. I am confused by languages.

    NeatNit,

    it’s not your fault, languages are confusing as hell

    Tartas1995,

    Thanks mate. Take care!

    Osix,

    This is just as contrived and boring as the console wars

    FIST_FILLET,

    well, not entirely, it doesn’t cost anything to switch operating systems. if something is a console exclusive, say goodbye to $570

    Honytawk,

    Even worse, cause one side isn’t giving a fuck about it.

    Like, which Windows user cares that Linux is getting Windows-emulated games? Literally no one. Let alone enough to cry about it.

    phobiac,
    @phobiac@lemmy.world avatar

    Do you go to restaurants and complain there is food there? This is a place for linux memes.

    catsarebadpeople,

    Yeah! You’re cool cuz you don’t care about this stuff. And also people who do care about this stuff are less cool than you. Yeah!

    _dev_null,
    @_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz avatar

    This is a Wendy’s, sir.

    mexicancartel,

    which Windows user cares

    I think its more about windows itself caring but not windows users. Microsoft is probably sad that thoose games are working on linux with great performance

    CatLikeLemming,
    @CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Wine Is Not an Emulator

    HotPurplePeach,
    @HotPurplePeach@lemmy.world avatar

    I prefer Linux as a OS, so I’m really happy that I can play games that aren’t supported by devs. And it has benefits - since Linux is a better OS by a mile some games work better on it. For example Valheim on Windows is unplayable for me since it shuts down my computer after 5 - 20 mins, while on Linux it runs without problems and has smaller FPS drops in my gigantic castle. Maybe it’s a bad example since it has support for Linux, but Ravenswatch doesn’t and also has better performance on Linux through Proton.

    Kusimulkku,

    Shallow and pedantic

    Secret300,

    In my opinion not at all. Linux started as a project from a nerd and nerds around the world joined in. I know now a day’s a lot of companies contribute but what they contribute is open for the nerds to use. Unlike the console wars where it’s company vs company with fanboys picking sides.

    Now it’s now neck beards vs industry and that’s way more interesting. I’m obviously picking the nerd/neck beard side cause fuck the big corp

    LaggyKar, (edited )
    @LaggyKar@programming.dev avatar

    It’s too bad the native Linux versions of old id Tech 0/1/2/3/4 games aren’t being posted on Steam.

    And worse, for the old id Tech 0/1 games it’s not even the Windows version, nor a native emulator, it’s running the DOS version in the Windows version of DOSBox in Proton.

    Although now I notice this is actually a remake, not the id Tech 1 original.

    nebula42,

    You do know gzdoom exists, right? You can play old id games and games based on the doom engine natively by purchasing them and running the .wad file through gzdoom.

    LaggyKar,
    @LaggyKar@programming.dev avatar

    I know, you can set the native version up outside of Steam, (and they’ll probably be superior if it’s a source port). It would still be nice if the version Steam gave you was a native Linux version.

    Verat,

    This is true, but for idtech 3 and 4 games there were official Linux binaries, but they arent distributed by platforms like steam, even though they already ship Linux versions of other games. Quake 4 or Doom 3 was I think the last of the official Linux binaries from Id.

    Matriks404,

    There are better source ports if you just want to play vanilla doom games.

    Fudoshin,
    @Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

    Linux is so much better than sex.

    QuazarOmega,

    Can you compile sex from source? Ha, didn’t think so!

    woodgen,

    Can you freely modify and distribute sex? Not that I know of!

    tourist,
    @tourist@lemmy.world avatar

    op’s mum

    QuazarOmega,

    Mine’s copyleft >:)

    devfuuu,

    Mine has no arms.

    papabobolious,

    Charging money is actually illegal in most parts of the world

    dustyData,

    I distribute sex for free. Sue me.

    SomeBoyo,
    bruhduh,
    @bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar
    QuazarOmega,

    You win, sex it is

    Hiro8811,

    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…

    AnUnusualRelic,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    I compiled it for you :

    
    <span style="color:#323232;">fred@ButtWarmer:~/Work/ZZ/sex-1.0> ./a.out   
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">"Is that all?" croaked the nine-year-old cheerleader as the dribbling electric eel fucked her creamy chubbies and thrust his throbbing joy stick into her moist appendix scar.   
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">fred@ButtWarmer:~/Work/ZZ/sex-1.0>
    </span>
    

    It is pretty bad.

    SaltyIceteaMaker,
    @SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    THE WHAT YEAR OLD?!

    AnUnusualRelic,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    I know, it doesn’t make sense to have a cheerleader that young.

    derpgon,

    Sounds way cooler than my fortune | cowsay in bashrc lol.

    mypasswordis1234,
    @mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar

    ./a.out | cowsay

    endhits,

    I actually have access to Linux 🤷‍♂️

    sharkfucker420,
    @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

    Finally, chex quest HD

    talizorah,
    talizorah avatar

    The moment we've all been waiting for.

    taanegl,

    Windows has finally been defeated.

    chrishazfun,
    @chrishazfun@lemmy.world avatar

    Windows is kil

    Holzkohlen,

    Evil is no more.

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