“I don’t think we would so lightly throw around the term ‘innocent Nazi civilians’ during World War II.”
Not that this is at all the point of any of this, but yes we very much fucking would, and did. Ministers in the UK government pushed back against Churchill's desire to bomb German civilians in retaliation for the bombing of London, saying it would "put us on the same plane morally as they are." Eventually of course there was bombing of non-military targets in Germany, including the infamous firebombing of Dresden, and the British war government faced some fiery criticism at home because they were killing innocent people, and many of the British people understood that deliberately killing innocent people isn't a part of legitimate war strategy, whatever it is that the guilty people were doing that you're "retaliating" for.
LordHardThrasher has been doing an excellent series on YouTube on the failures of the Allied bombing campaign, and why it shows democracies are better than dictatorships.
I think it’s also worth pointing out the inherent falseness of the analogy. They were innocent German civilians, not Nazi civilians. By equating Germans with Nazis, Mast is equating Palestinians with Hamas.
Why do you think they are so angry and crazy all the time - all that cognitive dissonance rattling around in those hat racks has to really hurt after a while.
Innocent or not, them babies are a helluva lot more worthy of life than this excremental GOP bastard. I hope someone runs over his kids with a car so we can all laugh about how they deserved it, after all - they're not really very innocent.
It’s true, guys! Hamas has a baby brigade trained to infiltrate Israeli barracks at night and wake them up by crying ridiculously loudly until someone feeds them.
The fallacy won’t land because remeber, you don’t even know how to read like you did wirh the issue about the democrats.
I am not mad I am just pointing out that your fallacy is bad because you lack the understanding what you read. And that is what makes you angry.
So vark whatever you want, it won’t change the fact that you defend the republicans while screaming bOtH sIdEs, and I never said that you claim I said just because you don’t understand what you read like with the democrats behind something with a really bad name, that you claim it was bad but didn’t try to read what it was about because of your ignorance
Literally you are the one who stalked me here… nice fallacy, but again your mental gymnastics won’t work. Again projection.
Grab a book and learn to understand what you read, it could help you not being that angry, and maybe, just maybe not being a conservative who tries to pass as a centrist.
You are the one stalking me here. Besides aren’t I the one who responded yo another person and you came crying that the democrats did something? You hypocrite
Sure bud. Oh no, just pointing your fallacies as fallacies doesn’t mean is incoherently… maybe agains you don’t understand the word but what can I say, it won’t be thr first time for you to not understand a concept because of your ignorance.
Scroll up, lying stalker. You responded to me. You said that you wouldn’t post in this community anymore, and like everything you’ve ever said, that was a fucking lie.
You just want to be able to stalk and abuse me without me saying anything in response. You want everyone who doesn’t love all genocide for its own sake as much as you do to shut the fuck up. There is nothing more to you as a person.
Lol, you stalked me in another post, then gets angry when I showed that you don’t understand what you read and at the same time that you are a conservative. Get angry and send me a message from this time and now you are trying to make it seems like I stalked you when you were the one stalking me… . Wow, you co servatives are on another level of mental gymnastics
Opposition to the genocide you love is not a conservative position, stalking liar. Again, scroll up. You responded to me in a community you lied about never posting in again.
Scroll up. The top level comment here is mine. You followed me in here when I stopped responding to your abuse in another community, stalker. If I stop here, you’ll just keep following me into other communities and libeling me there. I’d tell you to stop lying about me, but you’re incapable of telling the truth and your obsession with me is all you are.
Keep lying to yourself bud, just like you don’t read hahahahaha. Funny that you forgot the other explanation… oh yeah I remember, you only read what you want to read because od the hypocrisy.
Lol, like you did to.me the other day? Sure bud, don’t lie. You are just salty that I show how you lie and try to justifying when you don’t even know how to read hahahahah
Sure bud, luke thst time you started to post lies in a post about something a republican did, but somehow you find the mental gymnastics to pass the blame on democrats, right?
I posted no lies. If you look at that thread and scroll up, you will see just as here that you initially confronted me and not the other way around. And then, like here, you kept insisting that I was the one who had confronted you.
I’m not looking forward to the third time you pull this shit. Stop following me around and harassing me.
Nice edit. You “hulliliated” me by taking Joe Manchin at his word and repeating “fallacy” a bunch of times. I get it. You learned a new word but not what it means.
When I stopped responding to you there, you stalked me into here because you’re starved for attention.
Oh no, I humillate you when you found a thing you opposed father democrats in a post about something bad done by the republicans… but nice me tal gymnastics. After all it wasn’t like you didn’t even read what you opposed riiiiioight?
You keep insisting that I’m contacting you, yet you’re the one who keeps initiating contact with me. I’ll see you in the next thread you decide to stalk me into.
Lol, I said it once, rhe last time we talked was in the post about the republican that you somehow made a commente wirh 20 bad things the democrats did… an you were defeted. As a liar as you are, what would made ir for you to start to reply in other post that I was temporarily banned?
Lol, I said it once, rhe last time we talked was in the post
You have done this repeatedly over the course of multiple threads over at least two communities. Stop lying.
rhe last time we talked was in the post about the republican that you somehow made a commente wirh 20 bad things the democrats did…
I did no such thing. Stop lying.
As a liar as you are, what would made ir for you to start to reply in other post that I was temporarily banned?
Oh christ. I’m gonna have to go through my comment history to see which grievance from three weeks ago you’re whining about this time. When we get to the next thread you decide to stalk me into, are you gonna try to unpack all this baggage at me again?
Stop harassing me. Stop following me around. It’s creepy and unhinged, and absolutely indicative of the sort of behavior I should expect from every genocide apologist who agrees with you.
Come on, you said that you are not a liar? When I found how many lies you said. Remember the post about republicans? Where you were able to point 20 bag things about democrats instead? Only to point a link that you didn’t read? And the worse parte was that you were pointing at the name just because it was about a confederate… but i repeat, without reading what it was about?
Nice fallacy though. I mean at least I never said what you always claim that I said, but you on the other hand, did. So don’t lie
Where you were able to point 20 bag things about democrats instead?
What 20 things? Where did I do this? Post a link or stop your constant lying about me.
And the worse parte was that you were pointing at the name just because it was about a confederate…
Link. I’m tired of trying to figure out what thread you’re yammering about. You discovered that someone doesn’t love genocide as much as you do and it broke your brain, so now you’ve decided to obsess over me and stalk me and follow me around and make shit up. If you want to obliquely refer to shit I’ve allegedly done in other threads, link to it. I don’t need to guess what you’re obsessing over this time.
Or better yet, don’t. I’ve said multiple times that I want you to stop bothering me.
If someone tells you to go away and stop bothering them in real life, do you also follow them around and keep harassing them no matter how many times they tell you to go away?
So now what? I just show how you like to lie and use fallacies.
It is always the same story wirh you, when I humiliate you, you always claim that I should stop bothering you… nice one. So any other lie you want to tell?
Lol again you could even read the link you posted hahahahahahahhahahagahaa
You realy are something else doubling down in your ignorance hahahahahahahaha
The fact that you lied because you couldn’t read or lack the understanding is why you vote republican you liar, but the hypocrisy si what makes you post as a “centrist” you liar.
“In a video, Mast can be seen calmly telling the demonstrators, “It would be better if you kill all the terrorists and kill everyone who are supporters.”
When asked if he has seen the images of Palestinian babies killed in Israeli attacks, Mast says, “These are not innocent Palestinian civilians.”
“The babies?” the activists asks in astonishment.
Mast then says that the “half a million people starving to death” should have elected a pro-Israel government.
When one protester points out that much of Gaza’s infrastructure has been destroyed, Mast says, “And there’s more infrastructure that needs to be destroyed.”
“Did you not hear me? There’s more that needs to be destroyed,” he says again for emphasis.”
This guy has no business being anywhere near public office. Fucking Florida again.
Ah yes, they should have elected a pro-Israeli government in the checks notes 2006 election when over half of Gaza’s pre-genocide population either wasn’t born yet or wasn’t old enough to vote.
Also, why the fuck would they vote for a “pro-Israel” government after that state has violently oppressed them, to the point of genocide, for several decades at that point?
Not to mention that even back then, they had already been depriving them of food and supplies, taking their territory, killing or imprisoning them randomly without charge, uprooting their olive trees and other forms of livelihood, killing their civilians wars, etc for 50 years. Neither Fatah or Hamas or the PFLP support Israel, that wasn’t an option in that election because no one would’ve fucking voted for that!
It would be like saying if the most recent generation of Native Americans didn’t want to die, their parents should have all elevated pro-American colonies chiefs after years of genocide had been already ongoing. In what universe would that make sense?
Lots of us would love if about half our government played buckshot roulette with each other but it’s real tough to get anything done with wave after wave of “Be afraid, Be angry” propaganda every 30 minutes.
Dead babies are abhorrent no matter the side or reason and should be investigated as war crimes.
But I’m honestly not surprised that a democratic society disapproves of the use of violence to achieve political goals against Israel. Fundamentally hard to get people to care when Israeli babies were burned in their cribs.
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