some_guy,

I’m waiting for the “shook newborn causing SIDS candidate…” /s

intensely_human,

Wow they are really milking this “VP candidate writes about killing her dog” angle.

ickplant,
@ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

What’s wrong with giving the dog to a shelter?! So an actual human being can raise it properly and train it? This is psychotic behavior. Even more psychotic to brag about it in a book.

chetradley,

Because her mentality is that animals’ lives have no value beyond the utility they bring to humans. It’s a surprisingly common one.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

But she says good politicians wouldn’t admit it! That means she’s one of us!

dudinax,

Commenters here sure are sheltered. In the country, it’s insane to try to accommodate a dog that kills livestock.

You could try to get rid of it rather than kill it, but nobody is going to want it.

Gorram_Reavers,

Fuck off, idiot. At best she is a failure as an animal owner. Yet here you a apologising for her. She deserves misery and if you think treating animals under your care the way she does is acceptable then so do you.

whoreticulture,

Are you vegan? If not, the animals providing your food are treated similar or worse than this.

Chip_Rat,

Did she eat the dog after?

whoreticulture,

From the article:

Then, on the way home after the hunt, as Noem stopped to talk to a local family, Cricket escaped Noem’s truck and attacked the family’s chickens, “grabb[ing] one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another”.

Cricket the untrainable dog, Noem writes, behaved like “a trained assassin”.

When Noem finally grabbed Cricket, she says, the dog “whipped around to bite me”. Then, as the chickens’ owner wept, Noem repeatedly apologised, wrote the shocked family a check “for the price they asked, and helped them dispose of the carcasses littering the scene of the crime”.

I’m not a Republican nor do I keep livestock, but I’m a biologist and death is part of life. People only seem to care when it’s a pet dog or cat, but we kill animals for various reasons very regularly.

dudinax,

Killing a killer dog is normal and, frankly, practical.

profdc9,

Next up: Supreme Court declares Trump a living god. The living god demands a sacrifice.

Fapper_McFapper,

The prophecy shall be fulfilled. Trump will shoot someone on fifth avenue and he shall not lose support.

-Corinthians 4:20

bhmnscmm,
@bhmnscmm@lemmy.world avatar

Not saying her actions are right, but I live in a rural area and people personally shooting their own dogs and other animals that are deemed a danger is pretty common. People often do it when the animals need to be euthanized for health reasons too.

I personally know lots of people who do this. I have plenty of family members who have done it.

Again, I don’t think her actions were appropriate. I just want to point out how commonplace shooting ones own animals is (in some places) since a lot of people here seem totally unaware.

Rapidcreek,

BS I was born in SD. The only time that I saw a dog being shot was when it was rabid. There are humane ways of doing things. And Kriste lives in a mansion, not in a rural setting.

bhmnscmm,
@bhmnscmm@lemmy.world avatar

Just to reiterate, I’m not saying it’s right. There are absolutely better ways of addressing these issues.

But I don’t know what to tell you–I don’t live far from SD and I have personally spoken to multiple people (face to face) that have done exactly what Kristi Noem described.

Rapidcreek,

It’s not right. People that treat animals that way are not in rural areas with friends. Maybe you’re living in an area where they do that sort of thing, and it’s not met with scorn.

bhmnscmm,
@bhmnscmm@lemmy.world avatar

I’m in complete agreement with you.

I just wanted to bring up a big cultural difference I’ve seen in my area that people seem to be unaware of.

elbarto777,

She didn’t do it because the dog was sick or dangerous. She did it because she didn’t care about it anymore. So, instead of giving it up for adoption, let’s just shoot it!

Not justifiable.

bhmnscmm,
@bhmnscmm@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not justifying it. I don’t think it’s justifiable. I just wanted to bring up how common this behavior is in some rural areas.

elbarto777,

Ok.

chatokun,

This convo (though subject matter feels worse) seems similar to explaining the whole ivermectin thing to people calling it horse paste mockingly. Yes, using ivermectin as an unproven cure for covid is a bad idea, but no need to mock it with horse paste. Lots if rural and poor areas will use ivermectin from vet or farm supply shops and it is still useful in killing what it’s meant to kill, such as those parasites that cause blindness in river water.

Rural places often don things that seem strange other places, and carrying out euthanasia yourself may be necessary or common in farming areas with little access to the same facilities urban and suburban people enjoy. It’s probably easier on the mind of farm owners as they deal with animal death more often, and since even pets may end up seriously harmed by wild predators mercy killing probably happens too.

elbarto777,

Yeah, the ivermectin comment is irrelevant here.

She didn’t euthanize the pets because they were suffering (they were not.) She did it because she sucks.

chatokun,

I agree, but I meant how he was just explaining the background, not defending her actions.

elbarto777,

What background? The “that’s how the rural people do it” background? Because that’s also irrelevant. And she should know better anyway.

I grew up in a third world country. Cat calling women was the norm. I haven’t cat-called a woman in decades. If I said “well, you know… that’s normal in my culture, everyone does it” after being educated and reading a lot, then my background justification would be just bullshit.

WraithGear,
@WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

In fiction, a character killing a puppy is short hand for irredeemable monster. Its one of few lines that when crossed, the audience will not accept their possible heel turn. It is a fundamental human trait. Even in situations where a hero kills an attack dog in self defense it’s imperative that not only is it emphasized that the hero has no choice, but the necessity of this situation negatively impact the hero, specifically to not lose the connection with the audience.

For example, The puppy getting killed in John Whick was in the story because the audience would find rooting for John as he goes on a prolific murder spree hard just because he got beat up, and has his car stolen. But after the dog died, you have literally everyone immediately primed for a 2 hour reverse horror movie.

I say this because you currently are seeing a political party using the unnecessary murder of a puppy for the sake of convenience and as a show of … “ChArAcTeR” to speak to their base.

An individual may be psychopathic which could be considered a medical condition. But for a political party? Thats mask off.

silence7,

Importantly, Trump sees his political opponents as dogs:

‘Like a dog’: Trump has a long history of using canine insults to dehumanize enemies

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Jesus… “I am a complete failure as a pet owner, let me tell you how…”

Nougat,

She includes her story about the ill-fated Cricket, she says, to illustrate her willingness, in politics as well as in South Dakota life, to do anything “difficult, messy and ugly” if it simply needs to be done.

Holy fucking shit this is chilling. "If something is bothering you, Dear Leader, don't worry. I will murder to make that stop."

TipRing,

This woman is a psychopath.

Diplomjodler3,

Obviously. That’s a minimum requirement to be a Republican politician these days.

lennybird,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

A reflection of their constituents to boot.

… Well, okay. Not all are psychopaths. Many are just naive, low-educated, and grifted.

JasonDJ,

Honestly even if they do care about the puppy, it’s still acceptable to them. They’d eat their own shit if it meant a lib had to smell their breath.

Diplomjodler3,

Not all are psychopaths. but they’re OK with being ruled by them.

thefartographer,

Why does this asylum keep putting all the cool people in the locked rooms?

  • People who vote R, probably
Diplomjodler3,

Because those damn gay commie libruls hate freedom, obviously.

lennybird,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

“Look I stand up for individual freedumb and small guv’mint and minding yer own beezwax… But I draw the line when I’m forced to see two men that ain’t me holdin’ hands or having to call someone a different name than they want, like Jon over Jonathan! The audacity!1!”

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This is entirely unsurprising. She is a horrible person in a state filled with many horrible people.

Source: I live here. About half the people who live here would see no problem with this. It’s disgusting.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

So… about that theory of mine, that trumped picks his VPs based on best blowjob….

ccunning,

“…yes Mother…”

ours,

So there’s hope for Stormy Daniels to run? Can’t be worse that these psycho clowns.

Boddhisatva,

That would be nice. That way if Trump kicks in office we'll have our first female president and she'll be perfect for the GOP. After all, it was their lord and savior, Saint Reagan, who said "Someone once said that politics is the second-oldest profession. I'm beginning to think it bears resemblance to the first." By that metric she is well suited for Republican politics.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t think she’d agree to be his VP after all this.

ickplant,
@ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

If only Nancy was still alive…

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

The Throat GOAT of Hollywood!

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Ew

Rapidcreek,

That you choose to kill a dog because you’re unequipped to train it doesn’t mean you are smart or tough, it means you’re stupid and reactionary. Today’s GQP.

fluxion,

Literally trained it to hunt pheasant and then shocked pikachu face when she takes it to visit the neighbor’s chickens. Blaming others for your own failures in the cruelest way possible.

psvrh,
@psvrh@lemmy.ca avatar

Personal responsibility is only for poor and/or brown people.

The rich white folks are victims of circumstance when something bad happens. It’s never, ever their fault.

AbidanYre, (edited )

Fucking hell, that article describes a 14 month old puppy acting like a puppy and this piece of shit just decides to shoot it because she can’t be bothered with training.

runswithjedi,

She personified her puppy as a trained assassin and eventually shot it with a gun. WTF??

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