noiq,

Booted up my old FirefoxOS ZTE phone. Pretty surprised it booted tbh.

tayledras,
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kkarhan,
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@tayledras @noiq I wished @mozilla didn't self-sabotage back then...

Cuz since even in the can't get their hands on one, the death of the platform due to was imminent.

Kinda worse than the cuz one could buy that at least and as well as make for it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REaUzHef9h4

And there's only so much one can with as for Firefox OS...

For example doesn't work!
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/111338065640127982

noiq,

@kkarhan @tayledras @mozilla

Not a gamer and only recently diving into mobile, I don't know the history of either or

But I like open platforms and it seemed that FirefoxOS webapps offered the most open app environment possible. It seemed to me at the time that Mozilla lost their nerve and decided to pitch to India and not US or EU.

tayledras,
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@kkarhan @noiq @mozilla

Mozilla has such a long and forked history that I felt like I was riding a roller coaster. I remember Mozilla and Mosaic since NCSA Mosaic at University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign in 1993.

Mozilla has a several decade history of in-fighting, forking, and self-sabotage.

tayledras,
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@kkarhan @noiq @mozilla

NCSA Mosaic on a DEC Alpha running Windows NT 3.5 was my first experience in the early 90s, followed by Netscape Navigator, Mozilla, Firefox, ...

And now it's dozens of Chromium as the masters of the universe, already suffering from the same history, feature creep, and bloat as the browsers that came before.

kkarhan,
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@tayledras @noiq I wished @mozilla was over with it's self-sabotaging when came out.

Because if all they need to stay relevant is "slower speed of than & " then that's a sad testimony for the in general...

tayledras,
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@kkarhan @noiq @mozilla

Do we need 1.2GB updates to Windows or Mac OS? Do we need annual updates to Google Docs or Word?

keeps people employed, even if it means your 4Ghz new hotness with RTX 4080 runs like a lukewarm turd in 5 years so it can boot Windows 2028 or Mac OS X 18.

kkarhan,
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@tayledras @noiq @mozilla nodds in agreement

I hate this and .

I want more and efficiency.

Just because legit & quality-branded 1TB SSDs can be had for as little as €50 doesn't mean an OS should require that much.

That's why I work on OS/1337 because I want something and to run on @internetofshit devices:

https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337
https://os1337.com

tayledras,
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@kkarhan @noiq @mozilla @internetofshit

Modern datacenters, Virtual Machines, and Kubernetes are just as much to blame.

From Sun Microsystems and Oracle insisting "The Network is the Computer" three decades ago to turning all of northern Virginia into datacenters so we can host Kubernetes and AI/ML.

isn't limited to consumer electronics, it also applies to macro-scale computing and datacenters.

https://submer.com/blog/northern-virginia-datacenter-boom/

kkarhan,
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@tayledras @noiq @mozilla @internetofshit

nodds in agreement
I do want my systems to work without 24/7 access being forced upon.

We can see that even reached with @EU_Commission demanding some lame figleaf of a -based in every under the guise of .

kkarhan,
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@tayledras @noiq @mozilla @internetofshit @EU_Commission

I can understand like an for but wouldn't using - or Inmarsat-E or - be a better solution for the problem.

Because if one has an accident with no withnesses or other traffic coming for minutes if not hours, chances are it's some rural road with no (or / / reception at all...

kkarhan,
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@tayledras @noiq And yes, I think a lot of that stuff is extremely because if we need for seperation, there are many other options ranging from to user privilegues usually [ / runs as daemon/service under it's own user with near-zero privilegues!] and even can be done with / more elegantly...

Seperating and does make sense - but only for medium to big businesses with their own Systems.

https://mastodon.social/@tayledras/111338189842413844

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@kkarhan @noiq

Containers, segmentation, and privatization has been known for a half a century now.

What does Kubernetes offer that FreeBSD Jails, Solaris Containers, and Open VZ did not?

We're racing to the bottom, containerize everything to the atomic level?

https://blog.aquasec.com/a-brief-history-of-containers-from-1970s-chroot-to-docker-2016

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@tayledras @noiq Also I think that a lot of these have diminshing returns because once you can snapshot instanty, backup, restore, transfer and duplicate a VM you basically abstracted everything that's worth abstracting.

And I seriously doubt that things like really bring any advantage to the table, as they are a -only OS and not like a distro with solid or something else that makes it worth the effort...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSv

kkarhan,
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@tayledras @noiq Maybe I sound jaded but when someone says I kinda get a -esque reflex to say: " - only ' !" because that is the essence of it.

And why anyone would pay to have comitted against them is beyond me, tbh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBffKzWECUQ&t=514s

tayledras,
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@kkarhan @noiq

Decent video by The Hated One, but a little dated.

Hated One argues that Microsoft Azure is the only real competition to Amazon Web Services (AWS). I'd disagree. Google is holding their own with Google Cloud Platform (GCP) which I'd contend is equal in size and internet share to Azure.

All else was true. Amazon does used third-party sellers for data analysis, trends, and to poach product sales of high-demand items. Amazon also did undercut Lasership and last-mile shippers.

kkarhan,
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@tayledras @noiq Personally, I think that and 's is just the most blatant one.

That doesn't mean others are less bad - I'd also not trust for that matter and I'd even be wary about tho not because they're bad but because France has some legal issues that I want to avoid entirely.

tayledras,
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@kkarhan @noiq

Given how poorly PII is protected in the US, I'd rather see OVH than AWS or GCP.

GDPR is still an excellent testament and protection of privacy rights than what the US will ever agree to. Some American companies still avoid EU expansion because they want to avoid GDPR compliance.

I'm still curious about AlibabaCloud and how in-bed they are with the Chinese government. Any more or less so than AWS, Microsoft, and Google with the US government?

All clouds are to be distrusted.

kkarhan,
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kkarhan,
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@tayledras @noiq As a matter of fact, I did help a fmr. client/employer to move their and inhouse again amidst escalating costs...
Turns our it's cheaper to invest 8 digits once to reduce the hosting bills from 6 to 4 digits espechally since they ain't having short-term & highly fluctuating loads that justify the cost.

I mean, I know cases where that does apply and in these cases it's worth paying €€€€ to do on a like / , but that's an exception.

kkarhan,
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@noiq Personally, I think that was good per very concept.

It just so happened that @mozilla really it for no good reason.

People like @fuchsiii would've loved to for it, but since she - and everyone else I alredy knew back then - couldn't get one officially ( or only through and that at best overcharged for the device and most likely shoved some on it like it's commonplace with of -Devices [ask me how I know]).

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@kkarhan @noiq @mozilla @fuchsiii Mozilla had needed better leadership for a decade

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