ai6yr, to Batteries
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Wow, someone almost lost their house to a scooter fire, except some neighbors noticed and kept the flames from spreading...

"It turns out a scooter that was plugged in for charging had its batteries explode and scattered throughout the garage. Some of the batteries ricochet to the garage door, others were all the way inside the garage."

#SantaBarbara #scooterfire #batteries #LithiumBatteries https://www.edhat.com/news/neighbors-save-westside-home-from-battery-fire/

bornach, to random
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So it is not just in south east England can one harvest free electronics components and rechargeable lithium batteries from the junk discarded on the side of the road
https://youtu.be/1h9o7beQTDk

DoomsdaysCW, to random

We really need to come up with an alternative to . How are those coming along?

French recycling plant on fire housing 900 tonnes of lithium batteries

Reuters, February 19, 2024

" batteries are vital in electrical devices from to electric cars (), but contain combustible materials which, combined with the energy they store, can make them vulnerable to catching fire when exposed to heat - a potential danger given the materials their burning can emit."

Read more:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/french-recycling-plant-on-fire-housing-900-tonnes-of-lithium-batteries/ar-BB1itX1u

pee, to solar
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What's the correct/best MO for extended Battery Life? Let it run on batteries at night and recharge them from Solar in the morning >>or<< changeover to Mains at night and keep the batteries fully charged?

researchbuzz, to Energy
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'Lithium metal batteries could double the range of electric vehicles, but current batteries degrade quickly during operation. Stanford researchers have discovered that you can improve the battery’s cycle life simply by letting it rest for several hours in the discharged state.'

https://news.stanford.edu/2024/02/07/resting-boosts-performance-lithium-metal-batteries/

RonaldTooTall, to Electricvehicles

Researchers at Cornell University have created a lithium battery that can charge in under five minutes, while still delivering a stable performance through repeated “charging and discharging” cycles.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91016543/scientists-just-invented-an-ev-battery-that-can-fully-charge-in-5-minutes

realtime, to random
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I did a tear down of this environmental abomination that should be banned on the other site
the summary is that it's got less than 10% of its rated capacity and it's marked in such a deceptive manor that it should be banned

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bornach,
@bornach@fosstodon.org avatar

@lamp @bruce @realtime
☝️ This 100%

Although my recharge count is still in the single digits so far
https://youtu.be/PMbV3wQhOZQ

bornach, (edited ) to Electronics
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I've been finding more of these damaged devices discarded within a 0.5 km radius of a department store. Two in the last week.

They have a CR2450 , an inductor+capacitor tank circuit, a strange 3 terminal inductor, and piezo disc. Probably a far less reliable source for harvesting electronic components than disassembing used vape devices.

Wonder what would happen if I carry that LC oscillator component into John Lewis

DoomsdaysCW, to TeslaMotors

#EV #battery repair is dangerous. Here’s why mechanics want to do it anyway.

Fixing car and #ebike batteries saves money and resources — but challenges are holding back the industry.

by Maddie Stone, Dec 08, 2023

"About three times a day, Rich Benoit gets a call to his auto shop, The Electrified Garage, from the owner of an older Tesla Model S whose car battery has begun to fail. The battery, which used to provide several hundred miles of range, might suddenly only last 50 miles on a single charge. These cars are often out of warranty, and the cost of replacing the battery can exceed $15,000.

"For most products, repair is a more affordable option than replacement. And in theory, lots of these Tesla batteries can be fixed, said Benoit, who runs one of the few Tesla-focused independent repair shops in the United States. But due to the time and training involved, the safety considerations, and the complexity of the repair, Benoit said that the bill to fix one car battery at his shop might run upwards of $10,000 — more than most consumers are willing to pay. Instead, he said, many choose to sell or donate their old vehicle for scrap and buy a brand new Tesla.

“'It’s getting to the point where [the car] is almost like a consumable, like a TV,' Benoit said.

"Benoit’s experience heralds a problem that early adopters of EVs, as well as electric micromobility devices like e-bikes and #escooters, are beginning to face: These vehicles contain big, expensive batteries that will inevitably degrade or stop working over time. Repairing these batteries can have sustainability benefits, saving energy and resources that would otherwise be used to manufacture a new one. That’s particularly important for EVs, which contain very large batteries that must be used for years to offset the carbon emissions associated with making them.

But many EV and e-mobility batteries are difficult to repair by design, and some manufacturers actively discourage the practice, citing safety concerns. The small number of independent mechanics who repair EV or e-bike batteries struggle to do so affordably due to design challenges, safety requirements, and a lack of access to spare parts.

“'There are a lot of automakers who do not allow battery repair, even in case of minor damages to the battery case,' a GDV spokesperson told Grist. Automakers sometimes choose to replace the battery if the car was involved in an accident that caused the airbags to activate. Both practices 'will lead to an increase of repair costs,' and ultimately, higher insurance premiums, the spokesperson said.

"New rules around EV battery repairability would come at a critical time. Helps, of Cox Automotive, said that two trends in EV battery design are occurring in parallel: 'Batteries are either becoming very serviceable, or not serviceable at all.'

"Some, like the batteries inside Volkswagon’s ID.4, feature LEGO-like modules that are easy to remove and replace. Others, like Tesla’s new 4680 structural battery pack, don’t include modules at all. Instead, all of the cells are bonded together and bonded to the pack itself, a design Helps described as 'impossible to service.' If a bad cell group is found, the entire battery must be replaced.

“'It’s still a fully #recyclable battery,' Helps said. 'You’re just not able to repair it.'

"#Tesla didn’t respond to Grist’s request for comment."

https://grist.org/transportation/ev-battery-repair-is-dangerous-heres-why-mechanics-want-to-do-it-anyway/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

#EVRepair #RightToRepair #EVParts #ReuseRecycle #LithiumRecycling

DoomsdaysCW,

@Rjdlandscapes I guess the takeaway I got from the full article (not just the excerpts I posted) is that the batteries aren't made to be repaired -- which is ridiculous, but not surprising. I had a friend who gave up her #EVCar because the #battery replacement was more than the value of the car. That's just bad and wrong. Also, #Lithium, #Cobalt and the like need to be recycled if the battery is no longer repairable. Sometimes batteries stop holding charges. It's something we see with household rechargeable batteries, and it's a design flaw that needs to be fixed. As for the dangers of #LithiumBatteries, there have been issues with exploding cars and #ebikes -- just being in storage! So, yes, proper training is required -- just like working on electrical systems or plumbing -- not for the untrained.

ahau, to TeslaMotors

Chile's salt lakes are drying up killing countless living creatures as pump all the saline water to let it dry to collect lithium.

have become enemies of our planet. Most EV owners do not know how lithium is mined or whether EV and batteries are truly 100% recycled. They fell into the propaganda dispersed by who has a secret team suppressing information about the dark side of and

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium-batteries-environment-impact

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