The idea of #LoRA and #sneakernets growing out of things like #SecureScuttleButt that are largely shut off from the rest of the internet is looking more and more attractive and doable everyday...
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Habitat (#SecureScuttlebutt client for #HaikuOS ) currently replacing the BFS index based pseudo-database with an sqlite database as the former started choking around the 1 million file mark. Will probably start making it display posts soon
Sundog found a little lillygo doodads that's an esp32 on a stick with a screen.
Seems like an ideal way to deliver some very simple self hostable web apps as a product. Just add power and follow the on screen prompts to connect it to wifi, right?
@Linux_in_a_Bit@ajroach42 I suspect that works like #SecureScuttleButt (#SSB) and thus assumes you have infinite storage, eventually requiring your entire HDD with no way to trim old data? I was on SSB for a couple of months, using up 2GB of space, before I saw through it and quit...
Sorry, I'm probably being overly cynical, but I've seen too many similar networks built on the same assumptions...
Is there anything in #ActivityPub that prevents mass surveillance? seems like (most) meta data is shared openly between federated nodes, wouldn't be hard to info mine or index the fediverse, especially if you're a giant corporation or modern intelligence agency.
#ActivityPub#spam seems to be spreading nowadays. It isn't new, I moved away from my previous instance because it didn't have active mod volunteers.
#Snikket's idea of invites (#XMPP, not AP) seems like a good way to both control spam and onboard users. Mods can rate-limit account creation by judiciously creating invites. Users can generate 1 invite each, but can expect to also get banned if their invitee is a spammer. User-invited users would have a real account to bootstrap their connections.
@volkris interesting view. Web of trust-ness seems to be there in #SecureScuttlebutt (it "gossips" content from friends and friend-of-friend, friends are cryptographically verified by design).
Per your view, #Zot / #Nomad would work well on the user-in-control front (although whether their #Hubzilla / #Streams UX implementations work for users is questionable).
Does anyone here use #SecureScuttlebutt apps for building a community? I have #Manyverse installed — I love the concept, the execution, and the idea of the distributed tech behind it (public key signed posts that you get directly from their app, or from a follower who’s stored them; no ‘server’) but … it’s a ghost town for me, cos no-one I know uses it!
It’s definitely considerably less polished than mastodon, but I can’t help but fall in love with #distributed over #decentralised.
#Nostr feels like the dev didn't understand #SecureScuttlebutt and tried to "fix" it anyway.
He didn't get the chaining of messages and why peer to peer was worth the hassle, so all the metadata are left in the open (who speaks to whom, and even the message length), you have to use the same relay to speak to someone…
And all the hard problems that took years of discussing them before being implemented in #ssb, nostr people are like "we'll just throw bitcoin at it and it will solve everything". 🙃
Twitter's over, my dudes! And now everyone is on Mastodon! But Mastodon isn't a site, it is a federated network running an interoperable protocol! Yay for ActivityPub1! Anyway, that means there isn't one Mastodon website. There are many. There is only one Twitter. There is only one Facebook. There is only one In…
@Edent when I read the point about running instances on mobile phones my mind went to #secureScuttlebutt, a peer-to-peer social media that has no servers and as far as I know isn’t compatible with activity pub.
A few years ago I was looking into it and I found it really interesting albeit with a few aspects that made it not too practical. If we truly want to go fully decentralised (I’m not saying it’s a necessarily better) that approach makes more sense to me
Manyverse isn't part of the Fediverse, because it works very differently. It's part of the SSB (aka Scuttlebutt) network, and is trying to make SSB more user friendly.
However, the aim of Manyverse/SSB is very similar to the Fediverse: to decentralise social media. You may want to try it out!
Manyverse have just released their first desktop apps, so Manyverse is now available for all major platforms (Linux, Mac, Windows, Android, iOS). You can find out more and download the apps at:
I've previously posted that Manyverse is serverless, but this isn't quite true. It can be very difficult to reliably connect internet users peer-to-peer, so Manyverse uses special servers called "Rooms" to connect users. However, actual user data is not stored online, so data storage is still serverless. There's a video explaining Room servers at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5p0y_MWwDE