ghose, to random
@ghose@gts.xmgz.eu avatar

:ynh: :jabberxmpp:

devs are testing as replacement for metronome to get better integration with the system and better compliance with jabber standards. Also new default features as A/V calls.

It's on early development, without ETA!!

great news IMO 👌

thank you 🙏 🧙

blake, to random

Oh hey people, if you know of a bot I can debug my ad-hoc commands and data forms implementations against, let me know... I'm going to need one.

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@blake

I assume, that libervia-cli, the command line client of #libervia by @Goffi, can be used to script ad-hoc commands.

#Jabber #XMPP

Goffi,
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

@debacle @blake yes can! It's explained at https://libervia.org/__b/doc/backend/libervia-cli/ad-hoc.html . Basically you can run a command with li ad-hoc run --verbose to check the name of the fields, then use -S to submit them.

For instance to send an announcement for servers supporting XEP-0133:

li ad-hoc run "<http://jabber.org/protocol/admin#announce>" -f subject "Maintenance in 30 min" -f announcement "$(&lt;~/announces/maintenance_30.txt)" -S

Check the doc linked above, it's explained there. Ask me if you have questions.

arbocenc, to privacy in Automattic buys Beeper for $125MM, launches closed-source "privacy" app
@arbocenc@kfem.cat avatar

@EngineerGaming @xnx

What I don't understand, then, is why succeed where have sunk...

Goffi, to privacy in Automattic buys Beeper for $125MM, launches closed-source "privacy" app
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

@Samsy @arbocenc can run bridges (called "Transports" or "Gateways" in XMPP terms) since the early ages. And nowadays, there are modern ones with tight integrations: being a flagship (including a gateway), and I'm myself working on ActivityPub gateway and soon a email one with . is also working on SMTP gateway. And is the flagship gateway.

nicoco, to python French

Yoohoo! I tagged v0.1.0 of Slidge, the lib to write gateways in

https://www.nicoco.fr/blog/2024/04/09/slidge-first-release/

Geobit, to foss Spanish
@Geobit@mastodon.social avatar

@dino thanks for this nice and great app!

Goffi, to random French
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

now supports SCRAM-SHA authentication. Previously relying on outdated Twisted mechanisms, we experienced incompatibilities with recent servers like . This issue is resolved, and Libervia can now operate with up-to-date Snikket instances.

ailyaut, to random
@ailyaut@mastodon.online avatar

First blog post about the work I've done so far on the UI! I'd like to do one every month if possible, like Thunderbird does with K-9 Mail. Please feel free to send me feedback!

https://ailyaut.robotfumeur.fr/blog/2024-04-07_moxxy_ui_report.html

xmpp, to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

The Newsletter for March 2024 is out!

It's the 50th publication of the XMPP Newsletter! Let's and say thanks to all the contributors & readers! Join the community effort!

https://xmpp.org/2024/04/the-xmpp-newsletter-march-2024/

Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕

kyonshi, to random
@kyonshi@dice.camp avatar

Hmm, after having run on my for a bit I noticed I really don't need it. (Because the video chat just doesnt work as it should).
Maybe I'll just reset the rpi again and focus on some leaner system.

Maybe I'll try with this time. Have to check if that has good voice and screenshare options right now. And maybe a web interface.

I haven't really done anything with that for a decade.

debacle,
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

@kyonshi @Menel

#Movim by @movim or #Libervia by @goffi might work.

#Jabber #XMPP

Goffi, to random French
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

🚀 Just pushed the #WebRTC Data Channel Signaling implementation to #Libervia! In this case, it features a different workflow compared to usual Jingle File Transfer methods, with separate browser and #GStreamer implementations 💻

It's a great addition, allowing direct P2P file sending (where possible) from any device to any other one (like a CLI/Desktop frontend sending files directly to a remote browser). I look forward to enhancing the UI/UX! #NLnet #XMPP #PeerToPeer 🌐

mario, to meta Italian
@mario@sabatino.social avatar

Do you know if any commercial service operator has already asked to have access to apis?

daniel, to random
@daniel@gultsch.social avatar

I was about to start a poll asking if should add a fallback STUN server (stun.conversations.im) for the ~40% of servers that don’t offer one via XEP-0215 External Service Discovery.

And then the network of our hosting provider went out for ~5 minutes acting as a good reminder of why the app doesn’t rely on centralized infrastructure…

spla, to random Catalan
@spla@mastodont.cat avatar

He re programat el bot @xmpp de dalt a baix. Ara ja respon en temps real les peticions de registre, estat, info o baixa del registre.

https://codeberg.org/spla/xmppbot.py/commit/e203b92c5a9e0b422611ee0180bd81603feaf6a7

north, to fediverse
@north@xn--8r9a.com avatar

Do you create platforms?

Do you have any interest in testing your (Internationalized Domain Name) support?

If so, hit me up, I've got some really evil ones I can create subdomains on.

ge0rg,
@ge0rg@chaos.social avatar

@north does count? xmpp:♥@ツ.op-co.de wants to have some friends! 😈

I bet masto doesn't hotlink xmpp, so here's the web-compat fallback: https://xmpp.link/#%E2%99%A5@%E3%83%84.op-co.de

HotChilliIM, to Matrix German
@HotChilliIM@mastodon.social avatar

Access to the server and the server are currently limited because the primary IPv4 address was blocked by the provider due to . Checking the server revealed no abnormalities and we have applied for unblocking.

lutindiscret, to random
@lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com avatar

@erlend I've spent 2 hours of this rainy day to read your blog and design discussions. I will definitely keep an eye on it and hope you'll deliver something in 2024.

What do you think about https://webxdc.org?

lutindiscret,
@lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com avatar

@erlend it's a protocol and all implementations are open-source.

It's a simple API (few JS functions) to implement over a chat protocol to allow "widgets" or "apps" to run and sync between members of a chatroom (existing impl run on @delta and ). You could think about matrix widgets but simpler and not requiring to host anything.

motoristic, to Matrix
@motoristic@motoristic.org avatar

We have moved our chat room from to be hosted on . The new home is motoristic@conference.motoristic.org.

Hope to see you there! If you have any problems, or need help connecting, let us know.

We know it's not ideal to have to download a client to interact with the project - in the long term, we would like to offer a hosted webpage (likely using ) to make it easier to interact with us.

potatomeow, to random
@potatomeow@fosstodon.org avatar

which is better? or ?

Monal, to iOS German
@Monal@fosstodon.org avatar

Our iOS app got banned from the Chinese appstore because it is able to influence public opinion or is "Capable of Social Mobilization".

See our blog post for details: https://monal-im.org/post/00010-ios-banned/

gnox, to searxng German
@gnox@social.tchncs.de avatar

Ich hoste mit meine eigenen Dienste. Darunter z.b. und . Nun wollte ich gerne mal nachfragen, wie sicher das ganze ist, wenn ich z.b. Die Suchmaschine und auch XMPP öffentlich ins Netz stellen würde; was muss beachtet werden? Oder sollte ich davon ganz absehen?

forsaken, to random

What do you think the future of XMPP will be like? I think it might be the protocol I enjoy using the most

tallship,

@forsaken

> What do you think the future of XMPP will be like? I think it might be the protocol I enjoy using the most

Interesting, and refreshing, to see optimistic XMPP thoughts on, I guess, adoption? After 25 years?

People have been proclaiming the death of Jabber/XMPP for many a moon, yet its utility and existence just below the surface of mainstream awareness remains healthy. Yes, it is sometimes thought of as long forgotten, and no, it's not losing any um, ... Market share, so to speak.

For most things, and especially as a chat/communications platform between people, I migrated away and onto other solutions, leaving it alone and largely dormant for nearly two decades; yet it has always been part of my infra - mostly just between me and machines I've managed (notifications mostly).

I think part of the reason for it being so summarily dismissed was due to the rise of things like AIM, YIM, etc., and its perceived 'death knells', following Google's choice to (at least publicly) migrate away from it in the course of killing some of their public services.

More significantly however, IMO, were the abhorrently ugly and unintuitive UIs most chat clients sported - I'll call that era the time when XMPP clients mostly appeared like something you'd see on Angelfire or GeoCities web pages - before the MySpace and subsequent early Faceplant years following the breakage of the Pimp my Myspace page phenomina.

Like Samuel Clemens, once stated, ... "The report of my death was an exaggeration." If XMPP were itself able to express such sentiment, I believe it certainly would, lolz.

XMPP is simple to use, fast, secure (not by default), and by creating a situation where the user is transparently ignoring the JID + "/resource" and numerical priority that served to constantly confuse laypersons with multiple devices, the neo-adoption of XMPP and the introduction of 'pretty' clients has to a large degree, made it seem as if XMPP is something that is rather novel in the communications (chat) sector.

Clients like Conversations, at least on the platform, have enabled this renaissance. There's also more desktop clients that sport a good look (pretty), offering an intuitive UX.

Is it going to be the next great thang? Doubtful. As @silverpill stated:

> I think It will remain a small network, unless something really bad happens to matrix (its main competitor).

... There's that elephant in the room.

On the other hand, for those of us who were early adopters of the hopeful protocol, the promise hasn't quite been realized as expected, and further, it's been rife with disappointments - How many times have I myself integrated Matrix into system monitoring infrastructure only to feel that dissapointment?

XMPP doesn't offer me that - it works, every fucking time, fast, and I need it fast. I need to be able to call my customers and tell them that there's a problem and that I'm working on a fix before they even know there's a problem. I can plugin Zabbix, Observium, Nagios, Cacti, , etc., and when I hear that cacaphony of an alarm in the middle of the night, know that I need to get out of bed and start putting out fires.

I use Matrix - daily, all the time. But when people close to me ask which one of my non-email contact methods is best (besides actually calling me on the phone), I let them in on a little secret - "If you really need to get a hold of me, like, right now, and want my undivided attention when some IM pings me, then use my Jabber address". It's the first thing I check when I wake up, and I don't even usually check Matrix (it's mostly just for discussions and private chats nowadays anyway in my work flow).

Do I care if it's going to be the next great thing? Well, I prolly, when thinking about it, would prefer that it not be - Here's why:

  • Mass adoption by my friends and colleagues who I converse with would only serve to dilute the priority to which I assign my communications
  • Migrating from Matrix (or something else) to XMPP for my virtual social interactions would prolly spur me towards wishing I had a dumb beeper again on my belt, lolz.
  • Sure, I can take advantage of different JIDs/resources, and even install separate XMPP clients if I wished, but managing different alert sounds, etc., and, ... Basically just complicating something that is so simple and effective the way I use it now kinda defeats the purpose of having a (mostly) dedicated interface between me and my boxes :p

Well, that's my 2 cents ;) and of course, my XMPP addy is in my profile if someone wants a priority chan to rattle my cage - but please do use as a matter of practice, even untrusted e2ee is better than clear text and I believe that we should, whenever practical, use encryption by default....... because. Just because :)

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