spacenerdmo, to Matrix

Likely a result of recent Slack shenanigans, the pressure on the matrix.org server is a good reminder of why I should just run my own instance. It also just adds to my appreciation of how much nicer it is to run and use .

weirdwriter, to privacy

I know other blind people love AI but why is corporations/companies like this taking all of your private internal chats and data to be used for their LLMs a good thing? More importantly, can we go back to and now? https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

rumbatron, to random Spanish
@rumbatron@social.politicaconciencia.org avatar

Me he creado cuenta en suchat para arrancar a usar aunque la verdad, no sé con quién voy a hablar 🤣

En fin, por aquí estaré de allá para cuando:

rumbatron@suchat.org

art_codesmith, to random
@art_codesmith@toot.cafe avatar

Had a random thought this morning.
Why did everyone abandon ?

mattj,
@mattj@floss.social avatar

@art_codesmith With a literal interpretation, "everyone" didn't - is still actively used by many people, knowingly or unknowingly. Some people use interoperable XMPP services such as Snikket or one of the many public XMPP providers. Others self-host (Snikket, Prosody, ejabberd, etc.). And many more use it unknowingly via WhatsApp, Zoom, MoyaApp, etc.

The problem with the latter services is that they don't interoperate with others, but the EU's DMA regulations are aiming to change that.

fell, (edited ) to Matrix
@fell@ma.fellr.net avatar

Instant messaging is more complicated than you'd think. Sending a message from one device to another seems simple, but it's hard; especially on mobile. NAT, Firewalls, smartphone battery optimisation are all technical challenges, but then you also got user expectations. Users expect to see the same messages in the same order on every device. They want to be able to send photos, files, locations, voice messages and much more. On top of all that, full end to end encryption is a must have nowadays. Especially if you let average people run their own servers.

Matrix seems overly complex, but once you attempt to reinvent it, you end up with the same level of complexity.

#Matrix #XMPP #IM #Messenger #Messaging

alephoto85, to linux Italian
@alephoto85@livellosegreto.it avatar

Secondo giro! Lo so che XMPP è poco usato ma può essere una buona scusa per provarlo 😉

Io e @blu, abbiamo creato una MUC, "Guuf - Gruppo Utenti Unix del Fediverso".

Chiacchieriamo di sistemi operativi unix-like, si condividono articoli, esperienze, tutorial 😅

È aperto a tuttз, anche e soprattutto principiantз.

Se volete passare a trovarci siete benvenutз!

xmpp:fedilug-italia@conference.magicbroccoli.de?join

Per info su XMPP: https://www.xmpp-it.net/

informapirata, to fediverse Italian
@informapirata@mastodon.uno avatar

Il posto giusto per trovare e utilizzare gateway e bridge pubblici tra diversi servizi e protocolli

@fediverso

https://blakes.dev/bridges/

xmpp, to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

#XSF Announcement

You would like to exchange on #XMPP, the standard, development and our community?

The take look at this page: https://xmpp.org/community/chat/

See you online!

#jabber #chat #interoperability #standards #decentralization

Goffi, to random French
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

Just pushed a new protoXEP for implementing Remote Control in , along with an accompanying implementation in !

This is exciting, as it enables not only Remote Desktop, but also controlling devices without video feedback - like using your phone as an ad-hoc touchpad, laptop keyboard to control a Single-board computer, or making automation scripts, and more!

It's designed to be extensible, with plans to add clipboard sharing and gamepad input. Thanks to for their support!

xmpp, to chat
@xmpp@fosstodon.org avatar

The #XMPP Newsletter for April 2024 is out!

Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our #standards!

https://xmpp.org/2024/05/the-xmpp-newsletter-april-2024/

Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕

#jabber #decentralization #federation #chat

dgil, to random Catalan
@dgil@mastodont.cat avatar

Here a multilingual Chat Group for librarians.

Join it!

etiqueta245@chat.disroot.org

xmpp:etiqueta245@chat.disroot.org?join

liaizon, to random
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

really impressive bridging framework by @nicoco! I am starting to see the possibility of a future where everything is bridged together and it actually works
https://pouet.pas.la/@nicoco/112239408104840353

joshim, to random
@joshim@mastodon.social avatar

i missed this cos i didn't see any fuss about on the tl, but @Monal added muc creation back in march? https://github.com/monal-im/Monal/issues/41#issuecomment-1974978022

congrats to the monal team!

zsoltsandor, to fediverse
@zsoltsandor@social.lol avatar

I like @Mastodon, however I am also flirting with the could-have-been, @movim as a platform to discover. If only had proper compatibility.

Goffi,
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

@zsoltsandor @Mastodon @movim FYI I've built an <=> gateway thanks to a grant: https://nlnet.nl/project/Libervia/ . It's compatible with .

It's mostly done but still in dev version because I'm overwhelmed with work. It should be released hopefully in coming weeks.

liaizon, (edited ) to berlin
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

Anyone in want to present a or federation related topic at a casual meetup I am hosting at @offline on May 19th? Please respond here or DM me! :fediverse: :fediverse: :fediverse:

UPDATE: we have enough confirmed people! Please come join the event!
https://offline.place/events/2024/05/19/berlin-federated-network-exploration-circle/

debacle, to berlin
@debacle@framapiaf.org avatar

Yesterdays meetup turned out badly for those ​s, while the fish survived:

pulkomandy, to random
@pulkomandy@mastodon.tetaneutral.net avatar

I have just released Renga 1.26
This is an client for which is based on gloox and also a fork of Jabber4BeOS.

This version fixes various crashes and glitches, is compatible with the latest version of libcss for xhtml-im support, and implements the srv records for xmpp over tls (xep-0368). This last change means Renga is now fulfilling all needs for a "core compliance advanced client"!

The step is completing MUC support (moderation, invitations, ...) for basic IM compliance

ailyaut, to UI
@ailyaut@mastodon.online avatar

Second blog post on the UI! Unfortunately I've had a very busy month and don't have much new to report. Hopefully I'll have more time in May to work on new screens.

https://ailyaut.robotfumeur.fr/blog/2024-05-08_moxxy_ui_report.html

fabio, to random
@fabio@manganiello.social avatar

@adiz lol my bad - my tut client mixed up the threads.

The only alternative I see to Matrix right now is XMPP. I still run my own server. But it doesn’t come even close to compete with the number of available bridges (that’s actually the main thing I use Matrix for).

The only thing that can still compete with Matrix when it comes to bridges/integrations is still IRC+bitlbee. But that ecosystem is literally falling apart, it’s largely based on libpurple extensions that often haven’t been touched in years, and of course you can forget decent mobile-native clients.

Or maybe just run alternative servers to Synapse, but so far I’ve had a mixed experience with them - Conduit is definitely snappier, but I’ve had trouble to set up many of my bridges, which seem to be primarily designed for Synapse.

tyil,

@fabio @adiz Are you following slidge development yet? For me it offers pretty much everything I might need in terms of bridges except for , but Biboumi already exists to take care of that one.

Slidge doesn't look very mature yet, but given some time it may be the thing we were missing. I wouldn't mind some cleaner clients for desktop use either, but the existing options aren't all terrible at the least.

amministratore, to bluesky Italian
@amministratore@mastodon.uno avatar

In questi giorni è stato aggiornato e migliorato il bridge con bluesky.

Cos'è ? È una rete decentralizzata come il , , . Tutti sono open source e si parlano fra loro solo con l'uso di Bridge.

BridgyFed permette di federare un singolo account con bluesky,

Quindi chi volesse essere seguito da utenti Bluesky basta che segua: @bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy

Chi volesse invece rimanere isolato non deve fare nulla, tutti gli account su M1 sono isolati di default!

jcbrand, to random
@jcbrand@mastodon.xyz avatar

The Mastodon instance my account is on has been down a lot lately. I feared it wouldn't come back up. Perhaps time to get a new account, but where?

Preferably more on the free speech side, but not banned to all hell.

The mastodon.xyz admin has been chill.

Goffi,
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

@guusdk @jcbrand @claude

The gateway is a server component that can work with any server or client, not only .

About the status, it's working. I have 2 more things to do before the release:

  • HTTP signature for GET requests (it's only done for POST requests right now), which will make it compatible with secure mode of other implementations.

  • Use per-user encryption keys. For now it's one for the whole instance.

Both things are easy to do, I just need some time.

Goffi,
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

@jcbrand @guusdk @claude

Unfortunately not yet, but it's planed.

My current AV grant is consuming all my time, making it challenging to progress on other topics.

Feel free to work on microblogging XEPs: as long as they're compatible with and - it will with the gateway, at least for body. Reactions and likes require XEP-0470, not yet implemented in Movim.

AP DMs are converted to chat messages, so they should work with Converse and other clients out of the box.

tuneintodetuned, to Matrix Spanish
@tuneintodetuned@mastodon.social avatar

En relación al debate que surge de gente a la que le irrita que se recomiende #Matrix en vez de #XMPP, diría que uséis lo que más os guste para vuestros grupos/comunidades y punto, que cada cual tendréis vuestras razones para preferir una u otra cosa.

Como información para los curiosos, aquí tenéis una discusión de @privacyguides acerca de por qué recomiendan el uso de Matrix pero no el de XMPP.
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/why-not-xmpp/13792

flan,
@flan@bonito.cafe avatar

@tuneintodetuned @privacyguides
Como añadido, recomendaría #SimpleX muy por encima de los dos, privado y seguro (hasta ahora) el abordaje de usuario es súper amigable
Lo puedo recomendar después de venir usando #Matrix y #XMPP asiduamente, no volvería a usarlos

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