governa, to Matrix
@governa@fosstodon.org avatar
ramsey, to Matrix
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

I was hoping my experience would be better after setting up my own and servers, but I think it's worse. It takes 10-15+ minutes to join a room that's on another server.

I really want Matrix to be the federated chat platform that communities (and others) can move to, but we need to somehow solve these latency problems.

sb,
@sb@mas.to avatar

@ramsey just discovered this blog post from a month ago: https://element.io/blog/element-x-ignition/

...which actually sounds really good. I'll have to give the new clients a try.

ramsey,
@ramsey@phpc.social avatar

@sb How can you tell if your home server supports Sliding Sync?

It occurred to me while reading this post that I should probably just shutdown my Element server and use an existing Element client. That would free up some resources, for sure.

chpietsch, to Matrix
@chpietsch@digitalcourage.social avatar

After disabling URL previews in Signal for security reasons, I wanted to do the same in #Element just to be on the safe side.

Locating this option took me quite a while because I did not expect it to be tucked away under the “Images, GIFs and videos” section heading.

Here is the full click path:

Settings → Options → “Images, GIFs and videos” → “Enable inline URL previews by default” → no

#Matrix #itsec #usability #ux

tcely,
@tcely@fosstodon.org avatar

As far as I could figure out, there is exactly zero security benefit to disabling the encoder to mitigate a decoder bug.

This all appears to be viral nonsense.

https://fosstodon.org/users/tcely/statuses/111245589064534766

@daniel
@chpietsch

tcely,
@tcely@fosstodon.org avatar

That's very much not what Matt wrote.

I looked into this. Signal on Android (the OS I care about) didn't use libwebp before they added the version where that bug was fixed.

As best as I can tell they were using the Android libraries before that change. So, if your OS is old you might be affected by an unpatched bug.

The only report I saw was Signal desktop had a bug that was patched by upgrading to the latest version.

https://fosstodon.org/users/tcely/statuses/111245589064534766

@chpietsch
@daniel

chpietsch, to Matrix German
@chpietsch@digitalcourage.social avatar

Nachdem ich sicherheitshalber in Signal die URL-Vorschau abgeschaltet hatte, wollte ich vorsichtshalber dasselbe in tun. Dabei habe ich mir einen Wolf gesucht und musste eine Weile im Internet recherchieren, weil ich diese Einstellung nicht unter „Mediendateien“ erwartet hätte.

Hier ist der Klickpfad:

Einstellungen → Optionen → Mediendateien → „URL-Vorschau standardmäßig aktivieren“ → nein

killyourfm, (edited ) to Matrix
@killyourfm@layer8.space avatar

has been problematic lately (for me, YMMV), which pushed me to exploring other clients on Linux.

And I have to say that Nheko makes a fantastic first impression. If you're looking for an alternative, it's worth a look.

https://nheko-reborn.github.io/

(tip: If you have trouble initiating the verification process from the new Nheko install, try initiating the process from your other device first).

locness3,
@locness3@fosstodon.org avatar

@killyourfm what's happening with element?

killyourfm,
@killyourfm@layer8.space avatar

@locness3 Your mileage may vary, but we (several people on the Thunderbird team) have seem issues like images not loading, uploads failing, messages not sending, rooms constantly displaying "Unread" status, etc.

Rudny, to longboarding
gregorni, to Matrix
@gregorni@fosstodon.org avatar

When you open Element at night and get flashbanged…

austin,
@austin@mstdn.ca avatar

@gregorni @FineFindus If you are on Android, then consider using SchildiChat (which is an Element fork), whose splash screen under dark mode is its logo on a black background.

gregorni,
@gregorni@fosstodon.org avatar

@austin @FineFindus Thanks for the recommendation! I'll check it out!

strypey, to chat
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

Hey @element devs, getting for emoji reactions is very annoying. Especially when there's no way to click on a particular notification and get taken to the message or reaction it's related to.

shoq, to foss
@shoq@mastodon.social avatar

PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS. I am looking for a React-capable, full-stack developer who would like to lead a new fork of .io. The existing forks are simply not very aggressive, and there is a massive void for a project that is. I am confident that a few new features and some better documentation will make it very popular, very fast.

shoq,
@shoq@mastodon.social avatar

notifications.

Finally, documentation aimed at people, not just engineers.

I’m sure I’ve left out a lot, but you caught me unprepared :)

Don’t get me wrong. I’m a big fan of Element. I just feel all messengers are underutilized because they are optimized by engineers with a very narrow use-case perspective. Element is probably the best matrix solution we have. I just want to make it the best messenger and chat tool we have. 4/4

erlend,
@erlend@writing.exchange avatar

@shoq this is awesome, thanks a lot!

Practically all of these will make it on to the roadmap at some point. We basically take the approach that our client experience isn’t competitive until it’s as user-friendly as Discord; that’s where the bar is set.

As such we have one key departure from Element in that with Commune encryption is opt-in rather than required from the start.

It’s also web-public (like a forum) by default to enable lurking, aka ‘anonymous vibe checks’.

nico144, to Discord

we can do better than .

maybe ?

nico144,

@scopique thanks i'll scope it out! i also hate that i still can't stream to discord with sound on Linux. :/

gmate8, to Matrix
@gmate8@mastodon.online avatar
cbt, to norge

Nå er element x ute av beta!!! Dette er vist starten på det som skal bli MATRIX 2.0, og jeg er spent. For om element x er representabelt for hva som kommer, så er jeg med! 🤯

For å forklare! Element x appen løser mange av problemene den originale appen er kjent for å ha. Den har nå super rask synkronisering og super responsiv app.

https://element.io/blog/element-x-ignition/

asbjorn,
@asbjorn@norrebro.space avatar

@cbt ...dagen før Matrix Community Summit. Nice timing

cbt,

@asbjorn det er sånne ting andre opensource prosjekter må lære mer av. Element er nok opensource prosjektet med best kommunikasjonsarbeid av de alle.

lukas, to Matrix German
@lukas@social.lukas-schieren.de avatar

Hat wer Erfahrungen mit der Anbindung von keycloak als SSO an Matrix?

csett86,

@lukas warte mal noch rund ein halbes Jahr, dann ist OpenID Connect (zB via keycloak) eh der default. Siehe https://areweoidcyet.com

peter,
@peter@hostsharing.coop avatar

@lukas
Sollte kein Problem sein. Hier ein Konfigurationsbeispiel für die Nutzung der OIDC-Provider-App der Nextcloud in Matrix/Synapse:
https://wiki.hostsharing.net/index.php?title=Nextcloud_OIDC_Identity_Provider

cbt, (edited ) to norge

Virker som det eksisterer et stort marked som ikke er tilfredsstilt innen sikker kommunikasjon tilhørende organisasjoner, bedrifter og offentligheten, i følge @element sin undersøkelse. 😯

https://element.io/blog/the-future-of-secure-communications/

scy, to Matrix
@scy@chaos.social avatar

An interesting document outlining several serious problems inherent to the protocol (and its implementations) titled “why not matrix?”:
https://telegra.ph/why-not-matrix-08-07

There’s also a response by Matrix.org project lead and CEO of @matthew:
https://lobste.rs/s/wvi9xw/why_not_matrix#c_erbsnb

To be honest: Even after the response, the original article – and my own experience with Matrix & Element – leaves me wondering whether Matrix is really the way to go, and whether these issues can ever be solved.

leoniensieger,
@leoniensieger@techhub.social avatar

@scy @matthew I'm missing sources in that document. I don't expect the author to be lying, but it's just claims by an anonymous person that I can't verify and looking at the answer of the CEO it seems that a lot of it are outdated or at least partly wrong.

scy,
@scy@chaos.social avatar

@leoniensieger Valid point. I've also noticed how the response doesn't address all of the problems though.

It seems to me like the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. I don't know enough about the inner workings of Matrix to comment on the technical details or provide sources or citations. But maybe someone else does, and this post of mine motivates them to do so.

My intention is not to say "look, Matrix is obviously bad", but rather "maybe it's going in the wrong direction".

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