@cyrus For the time being, opt-in sounds less disappointing than a blackout. If this wonder server suddenly stops working one day, I can only imagine pikachu faces. But as an opt-in in the login screen of these apps, I would support.
#Element is the only of my frequent "apps" that is too fucking bloated to just load properly in 1 go. Misskey, Nextcloud, Jellyfin, and my XMPP client have no trouble dealing with this admittedly pretty slow connection, but Element just gives up after 5 minutes of not rendering anything, and then just gives me an error message. A reload and another 3-ish minutes and it finally renders a chat.
Imagine having to wait for 8 minutes just to read a message. Is this something people truly consider the future of communication, unironically?
@apicultor Interestingly enough, @thunderbird now offers Matrix as an option in its Chat tab. But yeah, Element has been a trashfire for a while. :dumpster_fire:
It's embarassing how #element is the only program that doesn't respect macos's #dnd mode and just blasts sounds. And it has been doing that FOR SIX YEARS
Why do almost none of the Matrix clients except Element Web/Desktop or Nheko have a feature to forward messages? It's sooo useful to bridge users like me and it conserves bandwith and storage too when it comes to media attachments.
@fexplorer Thank you for the tag! We agree, accessibility is absolutely essential and we'd like to see significant improvement across the ecosystem of Matrix clients.
We don't currently develop any clients ourselves, but a key part of our role as the Foundation is to address gaps – and suffice it to say, we're looking forward to having the resources to run a small grants program to fund developers and accessibility experts to shore up critical issues like this.
I sent a message with Element/Matrix on LineageOS (Android). I used the snowflake and snow mountain emoji. When sending the message, the whole screen is taken up with falling snow, for about 4 seconds.
Apparently, these are called "chat effects". ❄️ 🏔️
The more I use #Matrix the more I yearn for #xmpp.
The amount of resources a Matrix home server consumes is pretty insane too.
I also have this annoying bug / behavior with any Matrix client (#Element iOS and desktop, #fluffychat ) where the chat view randomly jumps around while you’re reading a backlog. It kinda sucks.
Mildly related: I will use Matrix (i.e. :matrix.org) soon using my #Jabber client, thanks to #slidge#matridge, a personal gateway from #XMPP to Matrix. I'm still in test mode, but I'm optimistic that #Dino and #Gajim will replace nheko on my desktop soon.
@nippon@4223@jr Leider ist Matrix nicht kompatibel mit dem XMPP Internet Standard. Sich nicht an Internet Standards halten und Startups gründen um das Rad neu zu erfinden bringt längerfristig nicht viel.
#Element emailing to tell us they're withdrawing customer cloud hosting, so I guess I'll be looking for alternatives for a six-person family chat service
@scy Try having your chat partner enter /discardsession in the message box. That should fix it for all new messages (already broken messages stay broken).
I'm not quite sure why it happens, but it seems like sometimes session keys get out of sync.
It is uncanny how #SchildiChat for #Matrix is more streamlined than #Element on all platforms: web, desktop ones, Android. Such a nice fork!
It's got no issue with editing replies on mobile. SchildiChat is packed with quality-of-life features, such as bubbles, opening to first unread message and sending read receipts as you scroll down, sliding between spaces, custom room emojis (upload via #Cinny and use in SC!). Labs are immediately available, pinned messages are on by default.
You usually had to compromise by using less stable #ElementNightly to get hands on Labs, but that's not the spirit of development I was looking for in my day-to-day messaging app, so I'm glad Schildi's got it right.
If that's not convincing enough, their mascot is a turtle with a post horn. https://schildi.chat 🐢📯