badtuple, to random
reiver, to SmallWeb
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

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What is Gemini?

I have seen more than one person ask that question recently.

So here is a thread explaining — what Gemini is.

But I need to give a bit of historical context to make Gemini make more sense.

Here goes —

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reiver, to SmallWeb
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

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One reason that HTTP(S) came to dominate application development is —

A lot of firewalls block all Internet traffic that isn't HTTP(S) — i.e., that isn't sent over TCP port 80 or 443.

That presents a problem for small-net protocols.

Will they in practice "work" for most people — will they be accessible by most people — given so many firewalls block non-HTTP(S) traffic‽

Should small-net protocol developers even care‽

ploum, to SmallWeb French
@ploum@mamot.fr avatar

Un truc que j’ai appris auprès des jeunes c’est que si :

  • vous connaissez Mastodon

ET/OU

  • vous utilisez Signal

ET/OU

il est probablement temps de finir votre tisane et d’aller vous coucher, vous allez encore vous plaindre de vos douleurs lombaires demain matin !

ploum, to random French
@ploum@mamot.fr avatar

Il y’a plus de 10 ans, je critiquais les SEO comme étant une arnaque pourrissant le web:

https://ploum.net/arnaque-seo/index.html

Cela m’a valu (et me vaut encore) des attaques grossières et insultantes de toute une profession tentant d’associer mon nom avec des injures sur Google.

Depuis quelques temps, c’est encore pire: le contenu est généré automatiquement pour correspondre aux recherches:

https://www.izzy.co/blogs/a-glitch-in-the-seo-matrix.html

Le web commercial est vraiment une décharge…

Vive , le et le

reiver, to markdown
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

This is one of the things that attracts some people to the gemini-protocol and gemtext.

I.e., that gemini is close to being a world-wide-web based on markdown rather than HTML.

...

Having talked to many of these people —

Some are fully happy with gemini and gemtext.

Some are unsatisfied with gemtext's lack of (what they feel are) key features that markdown has.

@requiem
https://mastodon.social/@requiem@hackers.town/111401519178774450

reiver, (edited ) to email
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

I recently became aware of a new small-net protocol (thanks to @wholesomedonut ) —

Misfin
gemini://misfin.org/
https://sr.ht/~lem/misfin/

Where the gemini-protocol is an alternative to the gopher-protocol and the Web — Misfin is an alternative to e-mail.

Misfin is tied to the gemini-protocol & gemtext — messages are assumed to be gemtext, server responses are based on gemini-protocol server responses, etc.

reiver, to markdown
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

There is a type of person who is attracted to the gemini-protocol and gemtext because they wanted a Web that was based on Markdown instead of HTML.

And the gemini-protocol + gemtext seemed close to that.

...

Not everyone who is attracted to gemini-protocol or gemtext is this type of person.

But I've talked to enough of these types of people that I know they are definitely out there.

ploum, to random
@ploum@mamot.fr avatar
verge, to random
@verge@mastodon.social avatar
pop_justy,

@verge Oh good, something else using the term Gemini so as not to be confused with the Gemini protocol. https://geminiprotocol.net/

fab, to privacy

Hello fediverse,
because it's common in this space, this is a little

I'm completely new to all this Social Media stuff and I was very skeptical about it in the past. Due to the evil nature of their corporations, I avoid Facebook and Twitter like the plague. But because ActivityPub is a free protocol and not bound to corporate interests it seems interesting. I'm not sure if I'll like it or post frequently - I'm just trying it out.

I'm an enthusiastic computer, GNU/Linux and *BSD hobbyist. I like to tinker around with hard- and software in my little homelab. I'm in no way a professional or expert of any kind in the IT field. Just doing things for fun.

Also interested in Gemini and the smolnet/indieweb. The way the internet is heading these days isn't very promising. When I discovered the gemini protocol in 2021 I was imediately intrigued. So I set up my own little capsule which I now regard as my private home in the online world (link in profile).

I hope we have a good time together!

adele, to random

If you want to toot about protocol (and not the G**gle stuff), I recommend adding hashtag.

Please :boost_requested:

reiver, to SmallWeb
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

I wrote an initial draft on Small-Net

https://changelog.ca/topic/smallnet/

I have more work to do, but —

I am looking for feedback.

saveanno, to markdown French

Bonsoir,

Où peut on trouver des refs pour des "capsules" "sites" ...

suis totalement noob concernant gemini suis tombé dessus en recherchant des docs .

Merci

dvd,
@dvd@mamot.fr avatar

@saveanno

Voici un répertoire de capsules plutôt généreux :

gemini://medusae.space/

Les pages sont en anglais, mais les capsules francophones ne sont pas oubliées.

Si tu n’as pas encore de client , tu peux consulter la même page via un proxy web :

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/medusae.space/

reiver, to internet
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

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If you look at an HTML document that has absolutely no styling in a web-browser (such as Chrome or Firefox) it does not look good for many HTML tags.

If you look at an HTML document that has absolutely no styling in many eBook readers (that support EPUB) they look decent.

It would probably be better for a small-net web-browser to be more like an eBook reader than the major modern web-browsers.

🧵

reiver,
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

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I think most major modern web-browsers are more geared towards using web technologies as a (relatively “smart”) cross-platform application platform.

Where eBook readers (that support EPUB) are more geared towards using web technologies as a (relatively “dumb”) hypertext document format.

https://mastodon.social/@reiver/108237663610634862

yggverse, to random

Thoughts protocol much native for Yggdrasil ecosystem than , because at least does not require TLS/DNS and CN/SNI as extra dependency.

Pretty useful protocols comparison at footer of this page:

gemini://scrollprotocol.us.to/

reiver, (edited )
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

@yggverse

Interesting.

I haven't heard of before:

gemini://scrollprotocol.us.to/

...

I added it to my small-net page:

https://reiver.link/small-net

astrognome, to random
@astrognome@fosstodon.org avatar

I hate that Google’s AI is named Gemini. Now when I tell people that I explore geminispace they think AI rather than smolnet. To be fair, no one really thought smolnet anyway.

dvd, to random French
@dvd@mamot.fr avatar

SOULEVÉ (extrait)

il reste du chemin à faire
avant le vrai voyage
il reste des places à remplir
avant le grand soulèvement

plus il y aura de passagers
plus ils devront se serrer
plus nous serons serré‧e‧s
plus nous ferons bloc

Texte complet sur :

gemini://gemini.oxydable.fr/textes/souleve.gmi

https://gemini.oxydable.fr/textes/souleve.gmi

reiver, to privacy
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

Pervasive Monitoring Is an Attack

IETF RFC-7258
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7258

“Pervasive monitoring is a technical attack that should be mitigated in the design of IETF protocols, where possible.”

“PM [pervasive monitoring] is an attack on the privacy of Internet users and organisations”

reiver, to SmallWeb
@reiver@mastodon.social avatar

“Did you mean smulweb”

dvd, to random French
@dvd@mamot.fr avatar

CHAMBRE (extrait)

La chambre mansardée se souvenait de tout, de nos rires enfouis sous les draps parfumés, des ressorts qui grinçaient en cadence, épuisés autant qu’agacés par nos acrobaties, de nos yeux grands ouverts qui revivaient sans fin les rêves d’autres nuits. […]

Publié dans « Une écharpe de mots » :

gemini://gemini.oxydable.fr/textes/echarpe.gmi

https://gemini.oxydable.fr/textes/echarpe.gmi

adele, to SmallWeb
@adele@phpc.social avatar

pollux.casa account registration is reopened!

If you need a dual protocol gemini/https hosting, I propose a free solution on a personal server. You will get 1GB storage to put and images files and build a capsule also accessible through https.
More info on https://pollux.casa/ or gemini://pollux.casa/
A smart autoindex generate an index of your posts if no index.gmi is found in a directory 😉 easier for a gemlog, read the doc to name files

deerbard, to random
@deerbard@mstdn.io avatar

If you know what’s happening to rawtext.club please let me know #slownet #smolnet #gemini

TritTriton, to random French
@TritTriton@shelter.moe avatar

OK, vous oubliez les sites de matos informatique avec leurs apparences bling-bling : on en a trouvé un qui soit compatible (et qui le revendique dans sa FAQ) !
https://diskprices.com/?locale=fr

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