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atomicpoet

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atomicpoet, to internet
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engineer Jake Gold confirmed to me that a PDS can opt out of BGS indexing.

Which also tells me that AT protocol (and Bluesky) will allow defederation.

So there you have it, @gruber.

If you use AT protocol, you will be able to defederate from other servers for both petulant and non-petulant reasons.

@fediversenews

atomicpoet,
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If defederation is possible, does that mean is doomed too?

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atomicpoet,
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@ablackcatstail The “doom” is sarcasm.

I’m referring to this thread: https://mastodon.social/@atomicpoet/110330628531561624

atomicpoet, to internet
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Hey @gruber, how will be tangibly different from Mastodon?

Because with what Bluesky devs are telling me, defederation with AT protocol should be possible.

It would be incredible on Bluesky’s part if a server couldn’t defederate.

https://mastodon.social/@gruber/110328355532624579

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Seriously, what’s with the doomerism on @gruber’s part?

Apparently, everything is “doomed” if things don’t follow his precise prescription for how things should be.

I, myself, criticize Mastodon. Quite often, in fact. But calling it “doomed”? That’s a stretch.

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Seriously, @gruber, Mastodon is a non-profit taking on a corporation with $13 million in funding.

This shouldn’t be a competition, but it is.

There’s no excuse for to be working on this since 2019—with full-time staff, I might add—and not be beating Mastodon to a pulp.

Yet, it’s Bluesky who’s playing catch-up here. Let’s be honest.

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And @gruber keeps talking about how “easy” is.

Is that true? Or is he just in the honeymoon phase with the new shiny thing?

Because if I’m being bluntly honest, there’s a lot that’s not “easy” about Bluesky. Search, for example.

Or how about the fact Bluesky doesn’t even have a URL shortened yet?

And why does no one talk about this?!

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The other thing about @gruber is that he refuses to try any other ActivityPub project except Mastodon.

Yeah, I’ve told him about other projects—and he acknowledges they exist.

But he refuses to try them because he says they just cater to the “lowest common denominator”.

Really? What’s so “lowest common denominator” about WordPress, Akkoma, Calckey, Friendica, Writely, /kbin, etc.?

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Here’s what I don’t get. @gruber sees the 100+ projects that use , the 25,000 nodes, 11 million users—says it’s all doomed—because one server threatened to defederate due to spite.

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“Petulant nannyism” is why @gruber says that “Mastodon” (he means the Fediverse) is doomed.

Well, good thing @gruber doesn’t call the shots around here.

If he were the Fediverse’s nanny, @gruber would drown it in the bathtub.

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@LLS @gruber Or to put it another way, if he were Mastodon’s dog walker, he’d shoot it.

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@aardvark @gruber Read the entirety of this thread.

atomicpoet, to internet
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What will be the tangible difference between the BGS that is making for AT protocol and a really well-connected relay operated with ?

The more I think about it, the more I don’t know.

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Okay, I got an answer from Jake Gold, who works at .

A BGS has relay functionality, but it also stores and indexes data too.

Basically, a BGS is Google.

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@SrRochardBunson Yep, Bluesky acknowledges a BGS will be out of reach for most people.

They do say that a PDS-to-PDS connection is possible, and that should be affordable.

However, it’s the BGS that will be utilized for the app view.

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@TheVoyageur Eh, it’s more complex than that.

envisions that there will be multiple PDS (personal data server) which connects to a BGS, which then connects to an app view that filters the data through a relevancy algorithm.

To give an analogy, it’s like operating a single user Pleroma server that connects to mastodon.social, which then lets a client (I think) parse the data from mastodon.social.

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@darnell Yeah, it will be tough for devs to adopt AT protocol.

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So I’m right. A BGS is basically Google.

Theoretically, that can happen with too. It’s just not everyone wants this.

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@codesmith @darnell Bluesky originally came to exist so Twitter wouldn’t be liable for publishing tweets.

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The best way to explain is to imagine what would happen if (pre-Elon) fell in love with and they had a baby.

That baby would be Calckey.

Twitter + WordPress = Calckey

Let me explain... 🧵

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So really, when people ask me, "What does do that other microblogging platforms don't?"

The answer is: many things.

But also, Calckey is pretty much a microblog with a CMS.

Again, Twitter + WordPress = Calckey

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@ke7zum The limit is determined per server.

If you're hosting yourself, you pretty much can upload as much as you like.

atomicpoet,
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@Cyberpunk This is not for encrypted file storage that contains state secrets. The drive is for social purposes 🙂

atomicpoet,
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@hugoboia Milktea for Android is okay.

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REMINDER: If you see abuse, don’t boost it. Report it instead.

Boosting creates more reach for the initial abuse, which makes it all the more worse.

Also, please give moderators a chance to respond to reports. During times you’re active on the Fediverse, some of us are literally sleeping 😴

atomicpoet,
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@pattykimura Depends on your app. On the web, you report by clicking on the "..." button. You can find an option for reporting there.

atomicpoet, to fediversenews
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Well, this is an unexpected curveball.

Jack Dorsey hopes that Bluesky will be “temporary”.

How likely is Bluesky to actually be “temporary”?

@fediversenews

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@ActiveCultures I get barely any interaction on Bluesky. Much more here.

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