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jakobmiksch, German
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Hey
Has anyone tried for WMS tile caching already?

purelinux, German
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I am unsure, whether i should migrate my instances to or ?

Whats your favorite?

Codeberg,
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@purelinux We have moved some services to Redict. If you want stability and don't care about specific new features, it's a reliable choice that doesn't need much attention. It's just running nicely just as Redis once did.

If Redis was a core part of your application and you benefit a lot of community and new features, you might come to another conclusion, though.

mistersql,
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Is going to support ? I would guess not?

Inc appears to be in complete control of the library, I don't see why they'd support forks they're hostile to:

https://github.com/redis/redis-py?tab=readme-ov-file#author

lewiscowles1986,
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@mistersql surely if it's protocol compatible, then they would have to break both redis-py and their own redis clients to pull-off breaking though? Gotta be done slowly, like MySQL 8 and MariaDB

sjvn,
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Valkey is Rapidly Overtaking Redis - http://DevOps.com https://devops.com/valkey-is-rapidly-overtaking-redis/ by @sjvn

Both developers and customers are leaving Redis behind and moving to the new fork.

louis,
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TIL There is a Redis replacement with persistency based on SQLite, written in Go.

https://github.com/nalgeon/redka?ref=console.dev

horovits,
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Remember I said the community will gather behind a fork to keep it , and that is a strong candidate?

It's continuing to gain momentum, and just added more major corp partners incl. Aiven, Alibaba Cloud, Chainguard, Heroku, Huawei, Percona, and Verizon. Check out the @linuxfoundation announcement here: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/valkey-community-announces-release-candidate-amid-growing-support-for-open-source-data-store

is also going full steam, reaching GENERAL AVAILABILITY just a couple of weeks after the fork announcement:
https://github.com/valkey-io/valkey/releases

anderseknert,
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@horovits Which is why it's good to have alternatives :)

Badscrew,

@anderseknert @horovits but this IS competition

thejtoken,
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Wow! An implementation of a few #redis types over #SQLite, I'm really impressed how awesome is the #SQLite the change of license is pushing the #OSS community to find interesting alternatives https://github.com/nalgeon/redka

major,
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Learned a lot from Kyle Davis about and what's new since the license change.

major,
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You should be able to drop in in place.of and it's already in @fedora Rawhide and EPEL!

acelaya, (edited ) Spanish
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The new #redis website has broken so many links. Some redirect to their new corresponding urls, but not all of them, and it's very hard to find anything in their new marketing-focused website 😩

#rant

acelaya,
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Thankfully, the Internet Archive exists 🙂

jonathanspw,
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YARF! Yet Another Redis Fork.

In today's edition we have Valkey! Valkey is backed by the Linux Foundation and a large number of Redis contributors have moved to Valkey.

Packages are built for Fedora and EPEL.

https://valkey.io
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=valkey

M4rkF,

@jonathanspw Do you know if this is intended to be a drop-in replacement?

jonathanspw,
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@M4rkF indeed it is!

brennansv,
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The whole Redis fiasco has resulted in Valkey emerging which will likely leave Redis behind with MongoDB and MySQL which were also taken over by companies which tried to monetize them. Long story short, a VC back company assumed control of the Redis project which was Open Source and promised the project creator to keep it that way, but broke that promise. It has been forked and major cloud companies are funding the fork which is called Valkey.

brennansv,
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linux_mclinuxface,
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I published a blog post on at AWS.

" broke with the community that helped it grow and left them stranded. This community is now unbound and will continue to use and contribute to the project as they have always done, and with more freedom. "

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/why-aws-supports-valkey/

karppinen,
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There’s a combo hot take brewing in my head about the and debacles.

It goes something like:

When the shit hits the fan and part of the reason appears to be an overworked and underpaid maintainer, lots of people come out of the woodwork to demand more respect and money for them.

But when a maintainer recognizes that they’re in an unsustainable situation and dares to make a proactive change, well FUCK THAT GUY. WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS?

kytta, (edited )
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I haven’t talked about the whole situation when it happened, but I really have to get my thoughts out on this. Better late than never, I guess.

https://www.kytta.dev/blog/redis-were-right/

Stick to the end of the post for a special announcement from my side.

kytta,
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@verbumfeit of course, how could I forget, thanks for the tip!

verbumfeit, (edited )
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@kytta I thank you for your integrity.

jbzfn,
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Fork it, ship it (?)

「Industry participants, including Amazon Web Services (AWS), Google Cloud, Oracle, Ericsson, and Snap Inc. are supporting Valkey. They are focused on making contributions that support the long-term health and viability of the project so that everyone can benefit from it」

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Foundation-Valkey

schizanon,
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As far as I'm concerned, Redis has been renamed to Valkey, while Redis Ltd. has created a non-free fork and confusingly named it "Redis".

drewdevault,
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Migration guide for => for downstream distributions, feedback welcome:

https://redict.io/docs/redis-compat/package/

We're expecting the first release to be ready by early next week.

bartavi,
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@drewdevault "It is also possible to have two users, “redis” and “redict”, with the same uid and gid."

WHAT?! How?

drewdevault,
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@bartavi just put both of them in /etc/passwd with the same uid

lupyuen,
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"Linux Foundation announced its intent to form Valkey, an open source alternative to the in-memory, NoSQL data store ... in response to the recent license change announced by Redis"

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/linux-foundation-launches-open-source-valkey-community

webmink,
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Almost without skipping a beat, the Linux Foundation has forked following the betrayal of its community.
https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/linux-foundation-launches-open-source-valkey-community

jaschop,
@jaschop@det.social avatar

@webmink
Interesting to see two projects take Redis into two different directions:

  • Valkey with a permissive license and industry support

  • Redict with the LGPL and based on Codeberg

Good showcase of different movements within the OS scene, imo.

pylapp,
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Redis is not longer open source as it moves from BSD to a double license with SSPL v1 and RSALv2.

https://redis.com/blog/redis-adopts-dual-source-available-licensing/

viktor,
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3 serious forks of to watch:

Mutli-threaded fork of Redis based on Redis 6.
BSD 3 Clause license.
Owned by Snapchat.
https://github.com/Snapchat/KeyDB

Recent fork by one person based on the last open source version of Redis 7.2.4.
On Codeberg.
LGPL 3.0 license.
https://codeberg.org/redict/redict

PlaceholderKV (searching for name)

Started by former Redis contributor(s) and AWS employees.
BSD 3 Clause license.
https://github.com/placeholderkv/placeholderkv

Boosts appreciated 🙏

jonathanspw,
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And now @realkeydb builds are in Bodhi for all supported @fedora versions and EPEL 8/9 and ready for testing.

Good alternative and potential replacement to

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=keydb-6.3.4-2

kushal,
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@jonathanspw @fedora We have to wait for https://github.com/placeholderkv/placeholderkv to choose a name and get packaged.

jonathanspw,
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@kushal @fedora yep as soon as they have a name and a published release I'll be packing it up too, along with Redict.

jer,
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ok, after all that #redis kerfuffle let's have some fun:

Who built a Redis-like cache/data store/database (maybe protocol compatible?) for fun or shit-posting?
May that be in bash, awk, storing data in DNS, ...
Share your silly project!

janl,
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CGM,
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@jer Perhaps it's worth pointing out that Redis itself started life as a prototype hacked up in Tcl, see https://gist.github.com/antirez/6ca04dd191bdb82aad9fb241013e88a8
#redis #tcl #tcltk

happyborg, (edited )
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#Redis is the latest example of why I don't contribute to non #GPL #FOSS projects.

Good #CopyLeft licensing

Bad #MIT #BSD #Apache etc #Licensing

rvr,

@happyborg @JRepin I don’t understand the argument. GPL doesn’t stop the copyright holder changing their mind and closing future releases.

happyborg,
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@rvr I hold copyright in all code I contribute so...
@JRepin

andypiper,
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