smallcircles, to fediverse
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Hey, which app allows an to be used as a ?

https://social.coop/@smallcircles/112414539433136490

#❓

smallcircles,
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erlend, to fediverse
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https://blog.erlend.sh/evergreen-content-gardens

Social bookmarking is a novel use case for and I’m super excited about it. I heckin’ love links and lists! I wanna use them for everything.

Things like are cool, but it’s not what I want. I just wanna link the thing. Books, films, podcasts, articles, songs.., they’re all just resource recommendations which can be encapsulated by links.

Thanks to @raffomania and @eb for the indirect prompts leading to this article mixing their ideas with my own.

smallcircles,
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@erlend @silverpill @bouncepaw

Nice article!

As you may know I started delightful project of curated lists. Though decentralized via sub-lists with independent maintainers, its still burdensome to keep lists up-to-date.

One way around that and similar to the ideas in the artice, is using something akin to network, but federated. There's a on it here: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/12

Delightful project: https://codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/delightful

My fedi list backlog: https://notes.smallcircles.work/o6BVygPSSjCx5mU4cTFhPg

atomicpoet, to random
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People in the music industry, explain to me this.

Spotify pays you $0.003 each time your song gets played. Meanwhile, on Discogs, I see recently released copies of vinyl albums selling for $200.

If you can sell one vinyl album for that much money, why don’t you do it?

smallcircles,
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@havn

Nice! You might cross-reference your blog post in the repository by creating an issue..

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues

@benroyce @atomicpoet

tedu, to random

Getting linked on the mastodon network (tm). A few notes.

A while back, somebody linked to the honk manual. Within one minute, 76 mastodons retrieved the link.

I replied some time later. Within one minute, an additional 58 mastodons fetched the link.

For the day, it amounted to 150 hits, some arriving a bit later. I think not so bad, since it takes me about 200µs to serve this file from cache. It would be more problematic for a larger or more expensive file, however.

There's been some discussion of having the origin provide the preview, and the consequences of fake previews, but I think a reasonable compromise would be to have the origin check if there's a reasonable preview to be had. If the target is not a web page, tune the link so recipients don't try to generate previews.

Also, over the day, 152 hits from Pleroma and 142 from Akkoma, although those numbers are double since every GET is preceded by a HEAD. I'm not sure what happens after the head request, but that could be another way to avoid inflicting unnecessary load.

smallcircles,
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@tedu

> There's been some discussion of having the origin provide the preview, and the consequences of fake previews

There's a about federating and other metadata that is often used to generate link previews.

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/26

You might add feedback. In due time a may be created to tackle the general issue.

smallcircles, to random
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About Megathread discussions on the Fediverse..

There are tons of valuable insights being microblogged around, available for participants & readers who happen to bump into them.

As microblogging goes they are fleety and slide towards forgetfulness and link rot as soon as posts are added.

Recording and summarizing these insights in a different medium is dilligent manual labor.

But can we even do this? Can we quote + attribute others' public toots or do we need ask consent for that?

smallcircles,
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@danilo @glyph @lrhodes

Well, just to record something about these thoughts I created a for a tool to manage creating summaries of valuable fedi discussions..

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/61

(It is nothing more than a bit of brainstorming)

thisismissem, to mastodon
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Challenge for a UX designer: rethink the UI/UX around content warnings on the Fediverse (mastodon, pixelfed, etc) to allow capturing not just a text field, but also some predefined labels (e.g., 18+, sexual imagery, violent imagery, etc)

Technically these labels would come from "providers" which define what they mean and controls that should be implemented.

smallcircles,
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smallcircles, to fediverse
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Hi there @ashleykolodziej 👋

I'd like to give a heads-up to movement where I'm involved and plan to revive the notion of or Social experience design, esp. for the .

https://discuss.coding.social

Your toot triggered a nice discussion in the repo: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/44

So much chatter on is either deeply technical or app-specific. The field of SX may offer a more holistic and inclusive perspective, focus on methods, guidance and best-practices.

smallcircles,
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@ashleykolodziej @dahukanna

Related to the that @helge posted, I had an earlier discussion, see: https://social.coop/@smallcircles/111452714189298376

It's just a sketch in a different context (a Fediverse of fine-grained components & services instead of big siloed apps. ). It only depicts how a timeline might be richer.

One aspect of may be to show what is possible in federated , in order to inspire and envision a future .

https://discuss.coding.social/t/challenge-adopt-a-shared-technology-vision-for-the-fediverse/45

mirlo, to random
@mirlo@musician.social avatar

What is Mirlo?

Mirlo is an artist-centered, collectively owned music distribution platform. On Mirlo, you can directly support musicians by purchasing their albums or providing monthly contributions.

https://mirlo.space

smallcircles,
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

@mirlo

For folks in the community.. there's a Help Wanted open issue here: https://github.com/funmusicplace/mirlo/issues/146

I've seen plenty of discussion of a Bandcamp-like alternative on the over time. Interested people might also file a on this at https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas

blake, to fediverse

I think either I or someone else had this idea before, maybe someone with more spoons than me can build it: a federated Thing directory, powered by .

Some aspects of such an app:

  • No "content" would be hosted there. Instead it would point to where it should be, which could include federated platforms like Peertube, in which case it would "boost" instead of "link."
  • It wouldn't be built directly compatible with Mastodon (i.e. it wouldn't use Notes for published links). It might just be coincidental.
  • It probably wouldn't use WebFinger because there's not much of a point. (I guess it could use it to refer to users, but that sounds out of scope, and potentially confusing as link collections would probably exist too)
  • Each directory (instance) would search itself by default, and it could probably use a minified index to determine when it should try searching another directory, which would be done on that directory.
  • Metadata included, but not passed around.
  • Directories (and/or collections?) would have their own set of key-words which other directories would use to know when to search that directory. There would be a hard cap for how many are stored for each directory, although maybe it could be adjustable.
  • The intent is to make things like Fediverse instances and media streams discoverable in a decentralized way. It's not built for things like article sharing (like Lemmy) or bookmarks (like Postmarks), and that use should be discouraged.
  • Each entry would include a key or a hash to verify or decrypt the content with. Hashes aren't needed if the entry points to something content-addressable, i.e. DIDs or IPFS. Also they'd probably be "highly recommended," maybe penalized if it's not included or something, instead of outright required, since media streams likely won't be signed nor will they be hashable by its nature as perpetually changing.
smallcircles,
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@blake it sounds interesting, and with similarities to a I created on "Federated Murmurations".

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/12

You might shoot an idea issue yourself, or comment to cross-link to your toot.

owzim, to fediverse
@owzim@mastodon.social avatar

An based alternative would be terrific, right? Somehow connected with .

smallcircles,
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@liaizon

@owzim you may consider writing a on this at https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas

The topic has come up very often, so there's likely interest.. but it all happened in fleety toots.

ado, to fediverse

Every time I post link aggregators, I wish the Fedi clients could decompose them. So you could more easily go from muh link to yer app without another website as a single point of failure in between the actual destination.

smallcircles,
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@ado @sysop408

Interesting. You might venture creating a on this at https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas ..

smallcircles, to mastodon
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Hmm, the search works differently than I expected. A search for "fitness in:library" gives matches on the words "fit" and "first", so I get a ton of results.

I was looking for earlier conversations I had with people interested to build federated tracking, where @helge filed a about today: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/54

I know that at least 5 times before I was in discussion with people interested to build such app.

smallcircles, to fediverse
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For the question of "Why use ?" has never been answered. There should be clear merits to wade through all the complexity that this choice brings, right?

Yes, its ultra flexible, and you can define your own semantic , and theoretically it could provide a robust extension mechanism to AP protocol. Except that right now it doesn't.

What's the vision of a Linked Data ? What great innovative would it bring, that makes it worthwhile?

smallcircles,
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@phiofx @evan @steve

Yes, indeed. Suggesting great use cases for -based federated apps might be done in issues at: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas

I think more general than your case would be connecting various tools to the , related to open publishing. A field where there's lotta interest. CC @jonny

PS. Though list is dormant (I'm not a qualified curator) I co-maintain https://delightful.club/delightful-open-science

evan, to fediverse
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I'm interested in hearing from developers who've successfully mapped properties from <meta> tags in Web pages onto the Page type and its properties in AS2.

smallcircles,
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@evan @benpate @trwnh

There's a on this topic that you might add comments / new insights to:

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/26

smallcircles, to fediverse
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Hi there @cubicgarden 👋

Just read about your intent to elaborate a bit on some of the issues. Would be wonderful, and most welcome.

The repository is under the org on Codeberg, where also the can be found, and fedi delightful lists I maintain (published to https://delightful.club ).

We hope more people will add their ideas, and also to possibly in future see be part of the fedi itself. There's an idea for an IdeationHub at https://coding.social/ecosystem/projects/ideationhub

osma, to fediverse
@osma@mas.to avatar

Random ideas for special-purpose ActivityPub services that are not Mastodon, but you could subscribe to at will:

  1. Sports league game updates
  2. Stock market opening and closing prices, significant movement
  3. Weather cameras in your region
  4. Your own doorway security camera
  5. Traffic disruptions in your region
  6. Public transit schedule changes
  7. New and updated tasks in your project management or source control tools
smallcircles,
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@osma

You might venture a to this at https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas

I am also intrigued by your use of the hashtag. How does that relate to what you just listed?

smallcircles,
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cubicgarden, to fediverse
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Elon Musk Says Dating Will be Added to X Platform!

https://www.datingsitesreviews.com/article.php?story=elon-musk-says-dating-will-be-added-to-x-platform

This is pretty terrifying and I can't believe I'm just hearing about it. Maybe something to do with not being on X/twitter and filtering out almost everything related to him.

Been thinking about how the and could finally change online dating for the public benefit.
cc @evan

smallcircles,
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@jmjm @cubicgarden @evan

For those interested in this kind of app, you might create a where gradually insights can gather and mature.

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues

teahands, to gamedev
@teahands@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

So. TV done for the night, back to gamedev mode. And I have news!

After a bit of a run-up, and a lot of being tempted to scrap the whole thing and hide, I've officially done the scary thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq_EG1W3-8E

It's just a short intro video, with all those things you hate like intro sequences and unnecessary exposition👍

Idk why this was so terrifying when I literally already have another YT channel but whatever. Brains, eh? 😅

smallcircles,
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@dev_ric @teahands

Ha, yea 😅

Frankly, most likely the ActivityPub integration is best for in-game communication. And for other interaction different network protocol can be used. Think e.g. Peertube for instance, that uses WebTorrent for videos and AP for comments, likes, following, etc.

But in theory a game-oriented AP extension might be created. Here typically inspiring folks in the ecosystem may help.

PS. Just wrote a on fedi text adventures.. https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/49

miblo, to fediverse
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Social web feature dream: The ability to relate (sets of) posts together to say "these posts are referring to the same thing".

I'd use this for these posts and their replies:

https://mas.to/@miblo/111380067627144896 by me
https://social.kernel.org/notice/Abq7z1gh5dhvxJdBUu by @monsieuricon

Sure, we have hashtags, but they rather work to put the posts into a pool of others also bearing that hashtag. I'm thinking of drawing a line between specified posts to say they're related.

Does already have this, I wonder? cc: @evan

smallcircles,
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@miblo @evan @monsieuricon

There's a place where you can drop off these dreams so they may inspire others. It is part of repositories developer community where also the Fediverse Enhancement Proposals are kept. File a on the issue tracker of https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas

0x0, to random
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Okay, I think it's time for #kitsune to address the elephant that's been in the room for a long while now: a full restructure, code and database model

https://github.com/kitsune-soc/kitsune/issues/418

This restructure would:

  • Abstract away federation, allowing multiple protocols
  • Finally kinda stabilize our data model (at least don't have this gigantic refactor looming over our heads anymore)
  • Restructure towards multiple domain support

This is more of an overarching tracking issue but input would be appreciated. I'd like to get it right this time 'round.

#fedidev

smallcircles,
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@zeerooth @0x0

I posed a the other day, about modeling the concept of "Community" in an extension.

But really first of all there might be a on modeling relationships between actors in general (i.e. the diagram in the issue should connect to Actor, not to Group).

As you say there are different roles, and they aren't limited to admin, mod, guest, etc. which relate to very specific use cases (a subset of social media applications).

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/47

ecmascript_news, to javascript
@ecmascript_news@mastodon.online avatar

pacquet: experimental Node.js package manager written in Rust [by the pnpm team]
https://github.com/pnpm/pacquet

smallcircles,
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@ecmascript_news

Inspired me to turn my into a ..

Federated

What if we had an federated app to take care of the social aspects of serving packages from self-hosted registries? And used a mechanism like which also uses, to distribute the packages?

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/48

smallcircles, to fediverse
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I filed a named "Community has no Boundary".

The idea is to define a standardized vocabulary extension for "Community", based on as:Group where the members (as:Actor) have a collection of as:Relationship to other actors.

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/47

Both custom + standard relationships supported e.g. http://purl.org/vocab/relationship

Native community support on the would allow us to move away from the technnical notion of "instances", talk about instead.

mielvds, to random

Looking for national or international examples on design and practice (preferably in the context of ). Any organisations that have documents, blogposts, diagrams, webpages, ... to share on this topic?

smallcircles,
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@lukask @julsraemy @Lesley @mielvds

Interesting. Wasn't aware of ARK, but added a comment to a related to archiving of content:

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/5#issuecomment-1326730

Daojoan, (edited ) to random
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In the realm of Arithia, where legends whisper through the winds, you, a fledgling adventurer, stand at the crossroads of destiny.

The once-peaceful land now trembles under a sorcerer’s shadow.

Three paths lie before you, each winding into the unknown:

smallcircles,
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@Daojoan @felixf

Very nice idea to text adventure by consensus via polls. There's a chess bot that does so too, but I forgot the fedi handle.

Yesterday I created a about playing text adventure at: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/49 and @by_caballero pointed me to you ( 🙏 )

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