blog, to ChatGPT German
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Atomkraft, Fusion und Geoengineering für „KI“

„Wir brau­chen viel mehr Ener­gie, als wir bis­her dach­ten“, sagt Ope­nAI-Chef Sam Alt­man. Er meint, die Mensch­heit müs­se „etwas Dra­ma­ti­sches“ tun, um das Kli­ma zu schüt­zen und den Ener­gie­be­darf von „KI“ zu decken.

https://kaffeeringe.de/2024/05/28/atomkraft-fusion-und-geoengineering-fuer-ki/

mongabay, to news
@mongabay@mastodon.green avatar

Given that the serious impacts of climate change are rapidly escalating, some scientists, backed up increasingly by governments, are looking into extreme measures such as geoengineering to slow the rate of change.

A new report examines 61 climate mitigation ideas for the Arctic, including geoengineering.

By @Jeremy_Hance
https://news.mongabay.com/2024/05/report-ranks-60-ideas-including-geoengineering-to-save-the-arctic/

FabianLaasch, to random German
@FabianLaasch@mastodon.green avatar

Jedes Jahr 40.000.000.000 Tonnen CO2 in die Luft zu ballern, kann man schon als bezeichnen.

taoeffect, to climate

It's not possible to simultaneously make scientifically relevant assertive statements about while pretending and aren't real.

If your model doesn't take these aspects of man-made weather modification into account, it's wrong!

riffreporter, to random German
@riffreporter@mastodon.social avatar

#Geoengineering soll den #Klimaschutz revolutionieren. Aber wie sinnvoll sind die neuen Technologien zur Entfernung von #Kohlendioxid aus der Atmosphäre? Die Physikerin Annette Schlemm beleuchtet die Hintergründe in einem neuen #Buch. @christianschwaegerl https://www.riffreporter.de/de/technik/klimawandel-co2-speicherung-geoengineering-kohlendioxid-klimapolitik

VQuaschning, to random German
@VQuaschning@mastodon.green avatar

Einige glauben, wir könnten mit das Thermostat zurückdrehen und die wäre vorbei. Dabei haben all diese Technologien mehr Risiko als Nutzen.
Warum wetten Menschen auf Erfindungen, die uns auf wundersame Weise retten? Wir haben doch Erneuerbare Energien!
https://youtube.com/shorts/1-vB86wf80o

taoeffect, to Chemtrails

Yeah they've been doing this for several days. You just have to look up and see.

Zero consent. Just pissing who knows what all over California and then idiots on X say "it's just water vapor!"

QT https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1778429474754744722

taoeffect,

Are they spraying us with lead? Maybe. Who the f* knows?

QT https://x.com/Joshua_Kop/status/1668205049997062146

Spanish government officials admit to spraying chemtrails 🧐 Lead dioxide, silver iodide (cloudseeding) & diatomite. Interestingly, Diatomite has claimed health benefits 👀

https://web.archive.org/web/20211030135750/https://www.alertadigital.com/2021/09/28/cuatro-trabajadores-de-la-agencia-estatal-de-meteorologia-confesaron-que-aviones-estan-esparciendo-por-toda-espana-dioxido-de-plomo-yoduro-de-plata-y-diatomita/

shekinahcancook, to sustainability
@shekinahcancook@babka.social avatar

How to Build a Climate Bomb
By Richard Heinberg, orig pub by Resilience.org April 8, 2024

“Once started, solar geoengineering cannot be stopped. Assuming that carbon emissions continued, the artificial sunshade would mask increasing amounts of...warming. If geoengineering ceased abruptly—due to sabotage, technical, or political reasons—temperatures would shoot up rapidly. This termination shock would be catastrophic for humans & ecosystems.”

...How awful might a geoengineering termination shock...be?

Think of climate change as a wildfire. An uncontrolled burn releases energy previously held in trees and grasses, adding it to the local environment in the form of heat. Similarly, by trapping solar radiation, greenhouse gases add energy in the form of heat to the global climate system...

In contrast, a sudden release of pent-up warming would metaphorically more closely resemble a bomb, whose explosion releases energy far faster..."

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2024-04-08/how-to-build-a-climate-bomb/

christianschwaegerl, to random German
@christianschwaegerl@mastodon.social avatar

So in der Art sähe der übrigens dauerhaft aus, sollte die Menschheit in Zukunft aus -Not zum mit kühlenden Aerosolen greifen müssen.

CelloMomOnCars, to Chemtrails
@CelloMomOnCars@mastodon.social avatar

GOP lawmakers are fueling a conspiracy theory without mentioning ‘

"Republican state lawmakers are going after a new threat they say could cause harm to the environment — and playing into a baseless claim at the same time.

“Between half and two-thirds of discourse online on [] is conspiratorial,” Wagner said. “That is unfortunate, because there are real pollution problems out there.”"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/03/27/chemtrails-conspiracy-geoengineering/

CelloMomOnCars, to random
@CelloMomOnCars@mastodon.social avatar

:

"Various government research arms are already gaming out scenarios, looking at who might decide to carry out climate engineering and how.

Once is deployed, countries may be more likely to blame climate engineering for extreme events such as hurricanes, floods and droughts, regardless of the evidence.

Climate engineering may spark conflicts among countries."

https://theconversation.com/climate-engineering-carries-serious-national-security-risks-countries-facing-extreme-heat-may-try-it-anyway-and-the-world-needs-to-be-prepared-222120

CelloMomOnCars,
@CelloMomOnCars@mastodon.social avatar

How to Build a

"Starting and then stopping solar would cause the warming that had been temporarily held in abeyance to show up quickly and with a vengeance.

To me, the failure of humanity to maintain a solar radiation geoengineering project, once it has started, is not a remote risk; rather, it’s the most likely thing that would happen."

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/build-climate-bomb

CelloMomOnCars,
@CelloMomOnCars@mastodon.social avatar

'Termination shock'
For decades we already DID , through sun-dimming air pollution from, e.g. shipping. Recently, we tackled that that pollution, reducing it by a large amount.

Yay! cleaner air.
But:

"Sudden cut in pollution in 2020 meant less shade from sun and was ‘substantial’ factor in record surface temperatures in 2023, study finds."

"The heating effect of the pollution cut is expected to last about seven years."

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/30/termination-shock-cut-in-ship-pollution-sparked-global-heating-spurt

BenjaminHCCarr, to climate
@BenjaminHCCarr@hachyderm.io avatar

has halted its long-planned atmospheric experiment
Solar geoengineering posits world might be able to counteract by spraying tiny particles in the that could scatter sunlight. The experiment was to launch a high-altitude balloon, equipped with propellers and sensors, that could release a few kilograms of calcium carbonate, sulfuric acid or other materials high above the planet.
The decision follows years of controversy. https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/03/18/1089879/harvard-halts-its-long-planned-atmospheric-geoengineering-experiment/

CarbonBubble, to random
@CarbonBubble@mastodon.energy avatar

The UN 🇺🇳 enviro agency chief has warned that a rush into experimental techniques to cool the atmosphere by partially blocking the sun risked harming wildlife, oceans, the ozone layer & crops, after failure by govts to agree how to control https://buff.ly/3wIU9Ip

UP8, to climate
@UP8@mastodon.social avatar

🏖️ Not such a bright idea: Cooling the Earth by reflecting sunlight back to space is a dangerous distraction

https://phys.org/news/2024-03-bright-idea-cooling-earth-sunlight.html

JohnBarentine, to space
@JohnBarentine@astrodon.social avatar

What could possibly go wrong?

"About 10% of the particles floating around the stratosphere now come from the aerospace industry, and we don't know if this could impact the climate."

https://www.businessinsider.com/satellites-burn-atmosphere-particles-stratosphere-climate-ozone-2024-2

ScienceDesk, to science
@ScienceDesk@flipboard.social avatar

The debate over whether to let people launch particles into the sky that would reflect sunlight back into space has been tabled after talks at the UN Environmental Assembly ended in a stalemate. @verge has more on the countries that tried and failed to establish tougher ground rules on solar geoengineering. https://flip.it/ugYSJr

Lazarou, to random
@Lazarou@mastodon.social avatar

I like having backup plans, and that's what geoengineering is.
The better plan is the one we all know, the simpler one that oligarch owned governments keeping ignoring and fascist owned farmers keep whining about.

Best save that stuff for Mars I say.

hywan, to climate
@hywan@fosstodon.org avatar

Someone is going to dim the sun, and it will be soon, https://climate.benjames.io/someone-is-going-to-dim-the-sun/.

The fact:

  • “100 planes injecting sulfur particles into the stratosphere would dim the sun by about 1%, and cool the earth by about 1°C”

The reality:

  • We don’t know if a cascade reaction can happen, and if it will, it can be absolutely dramatic.
  • It is most costly than the article suggests.
  • We need to regulate/forbid this.

Ruth_Mottram, to random

What deep held flaw is built into the human psyche that we would prefer to consider the monstrous technologies of rather than cut any fossil fuel use?

andybrwn, to climate
@andybrwn@sfba.social avatar

Scientists Resort to Once-Unthinkable Solutions to Cool the Planet. Three projects seek to alter the chemistry of the atmosphere and the ocean. Critics warn of unintended consequences.

(gift link) https://www.wsj.com/science/environment/geoengineering-projects-cool-planet-weather-f0619bf7?st=ye66jkjkjcpyngf&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

CelloMomOnCars, to climate
@CelloMomOnCars@mastodon.social avatar

A US engineer had a shocking plan to improve the climate – burn all coal on Earth

"Several generations ago, it simply hadn't yet sufficiently occurred to scientists that might unleash significant harms. Now it's overwhelmingly accepted. It's likely we are missing similarly vital insights today, insights that would enable us to navigate our world far more wisely."

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240201-a-us-engineer-had-a-shocking-plan-to-improve-the-climate-burn-all-coal-on-earth

CelloMomOnCars,
@CelloMomOnCars@mastodon.social avatar

A US engineer had a shocking plan to improve the climate – burn all coal on Earth

"Abbott's case suggests that one shouldn't be hasty when it comes to acting drastically in what you think is the interest of future generations."

Casting a side-eye on you, would-be geo-engineers.
Don't mess with it if you don't understand it.

We are already geo-engineering the planet, by burning all that coal, oil, and gas. And look what happened.


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240201-a-us-engineer-had-a-shocking-plan-to-improve-the-climate-burn-all-coal-on-earth

JohnBarentine, to climate
@JohnBarentine@astrodon.social avatar

Because the answer is never 'just consume less': "It’s come to this. With Earth at its hottest point in recorded history, and humans doing far from enough to stop its overheating, a small but growing number of astronomers and physicists are proposing a potential fix that could have leaped from the pages of science fiction: The equivalent of a giant beach umbrella, floating in outer space."

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/climate/sun-shade-climate-geoengineering.html

talkinto, to Sociology German

If we live in a "solutionist age" (remember: E. Morozov), why are technological solutions to the climate issue ( e.g. direct air capture) so unpopular (meaning: at least in Germany, I don't see any significant public support)?

Any educated guess?

@sociologists_list @sociology @sociology

eric,

The present post only is a complement to the excellent answer by @ds

@talkinto
Indeed people are reluctant to solutions coming from the industry. Witness the enormous literature on .

Hence we do not live in a "solutionist age". Morozov stirred a moral panic to boost his sales. Which worked.
Do you know about Herbert ?

@anthropocene @technique @climate

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