jo,

Tbh, I'm on a proactively moderated server that has preemptively kept a lot of the worst folks from being able to reach us queers here, and the feedback from a handful of black users here is that #blahajzone has also been generally been harassment free in comparison to other servers they've been on.

Imo, it's actually not to hard as a queer or trans person to find #servers on the #fediverse that will protect you from harassment, but that it is harder to find servers that will also protect indigenous, black, Asian users from racist harassment. And too many queer white folks get a free pass for ignorance tbh, a privilege that many of us have had for far too long.

It's much the same on #Bluesky where I haven't been harassed for being #queer and trans - again there's large communities and plenty of allies - but anti-black racism has been in the spotlight again recently and the devs called out for lagging behind on safety and moderation features that bigots exploit for harassment campaigns.

Far too many fediverse projects are led by men, mostly white men, who are lionised, promoted and financed by another layer of mostly white men. They ultimately get the veto on minority protections.

#Mastodon #Firefish #Iceshrimp #FindAServer #FediverseSafety

RE: https://firefish.social/notes/9hs7vrern5ptmu66

DaWoDerPfeffer,
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@jo

I always cringe at the idea that and BIPoC are named at the same time, when it comes to discrimination.

My experience with racist white LGBTQIA+ is worse than with average white cis heteros!
Reasons may be that e.g. white queers etc… are obviously first and foremost WHITE, queer comes second.

As white Feminists want to rule the BIPoC world equally with their white men, the fight for universal human rights is obviously not their goal.
Same thing I see regarding white LGBTQIA+.

DaWoDerPfeffer,
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@jo

Whenever I point out some racist content by white queers, or see BIPoC queers to point out racist content by white queers …the reaction is almost always the same: how dare we go against white queers, they have it so bad and are in need of protection by "fellow discriminated" not being stabbed in the back!

Result is: white LGBTQIA+ demand to be racist without being called out on racism and staying unpunished for being racists.
Especially BIPoC queers may seen as treasonous by white LGBTQIA

DaWoDerPfeffer,
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Dear @jo,
as long as the moderation of servers is not foremost being done by people suffering multi-discriminations and are e.g. from the global south, disabled BIPoC LGBTQIA+ themselves, I do NOT see, how the problems will be much better on your proactively moderated, preferred server, as the moderation is usually done by whites, who may see the issue but will hesitate reacting to racist shit BY white LGBTQIA+, possibly even more so, if the "opponent" is BIPoC but not LGBTQIA+!
See the problem?

maloki,

@jo I'm so confused, is the person actively trying to find the bad servers and hoping they aren't blocked? 🤔 Why not join one of the bad servers and have it over with?

jo,

@maloki No, they're hoping that those found on Oliphant's Tier0 blocklist are being blocked but can't seem to even locate a list available to view by users on firefish.social much like we have here on blahaj.zone and as do many mastodon servers. Unfortunately Misskey forks like and don't support the import of blocklists, though Iceshrimp is keen to implement that. I do understand why some servers keep their blocked list private - sometimes public or privately viewable blocklists have enraged the bigots and they then brigaded the server from other servers and encouraged more bigots to join them - but then that should be communicated somewhere newbies can find it.

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