erlend, (edited )
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Communal Bonfires; creating space for group-scale discourse on top of @matrix

https://blog.erlend.sh/communal-bonfires

Today we're pre-releasing Commune, our first foundational step towards a community platform built specifically for alignment with digital gardens.

Cyber-ecological messaging anyone?!

It's an evolving piece of software serving as the primary bonfire component of the overarching Community OS concept.

https://github.com/commune-os/commune-server

erlend, (edited )
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Any network hosts on the interested in testing Commune?

https://writing.exchange/@erlend/110712778752844998

Commune is an extension of Matrix to make rooms web-public and threads-enabled. Layered unobtrusively on top of your existing Synapse server; most of the setup can be left up to us.

We’d like to eventually be a plug-and-play extension for any Matrix network, including Matrix.org 🌐

..so as a first step, we wanna work on interop with the smaller networks as our earliest adopters.

sef,

@erlend This is great! Judging by its Matrix chat room I thought Commune development went stale. Very happy to be wrong about that!

flancian,
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@erlend very nice, looking forward to trying! This seems to have some potential for convergence/federation with the [[Agora]] project which we are trying to build, would love to discuss opportunities for integration.

The Agora interacts with activitypub through bots currently, the main integration point currently is at the level of digital gardens hosted on git by default.

samuel,
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@erlend Interesting! But I didn't really understand how and why it is built on both Matrix and ActivityPub. Care do elaborate?

erlend,
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@samuel ah, what gave you the impression that it’s being built on AP? We will get into some AP integrations further down the line, but it’s in no way a backbone of the app the way Matrix is.

smallcircles,
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@erlend @matrix

Great to see this, and good blog (am still reading).

The marriage of chat + forum on the characteristics you list is an important one.

Once you have 2 separate community channels, say a chat and a forum, you immediately have a problem. The chat is so low-barrier that important info to be kept longer term ends up there and gets lost in the chat flow history. It requires reminding all the time "Please take this to forum".

A good integration can avoid that.

flancian,
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@erlend @matrix are you familiar with [[bonfire]] by @mayel -- an activitypub implementation with the same name that seems to have also some overlap in scope?

erlend,
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@flancian the main difference is that Bonfire is an all-in-one app with a bespoke implementation of various workflows. Our approach is much more reliant on protocols and interop between them.

cmdrmoto, (edited )
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@erlend This looks masterful.

You beautifully elucidate a lot of my own gut feelings about online communities - then went the full distance and implemented ‘em!

Looking forward to testing soon*

*(my usual digital focus has temporarily taken a backseat to new-apartment nesting)

bentsai,
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@erlend @boris i really resonate with the diagram of thought / chat / thread / article

bentsai,
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@erlend @boris and what is described in the post. i have meaningful exchanges in chat, then deeper conversations in forums, and sometimes i’ll write a piece on my blog. yet those are all islands, and not always linkable.

boris,

@bentsai @erlend not quite the same picture, but @blaine sketched out different types of communication mediums are appropriate for different kinds of personas or types of communication.

Medium x Persona grid https://talk.fission.codes/t/blaines-medium-x-persona-grid/4270

blaine,
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@boris @bentsai @erlend I should probably flesh something out that's not just an off-the-cuff sketch on a whiteboard at the end of a coworking day 😅

erlend,
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@blaine @boris @bentsai hah, it got the job done! Messaging is context-dependent 👌

But it’d certainly be interesting to hear any further elaboration!

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