If you’re on mastodon.social, I would highly recommend that you switch to a different server that protects its people instead of exposing them to a well-known bad actor like Facebook/Meta via Threads.
And remember that Mastodon is not the fediverse. The fediverse is much more than just Mastodon and definitely more so than mastodon.social and Mastodon gGmbH.
@aral I just wish there was an easy way to find servers that align with ones morals? I left my first one due to them not defederating from Meta, next I chose an EU one, they suspended me for calling out blatant Israeli propaganda and now I'm stuck here because I couldn't find anything better. Being on here feels more and more like a chore and a LOT of servers make neither block lists nor rules beyond "don't break law" public.
@Craftycat I've included a pointer to that with my Fediverse app listings at https://android.izzysoft.de/applists/category/named/fediverse to hopefully help you with that. As @aral already pointed out, the FediPact instance listing is very useful there: filter for your service, then concentrate on those with either "fedipact" or "blocked" in the status column. Especially those with fedipact should be safe, as having signed it they showed they care.
@IzzyOnDroid@aral this is a great service, I hope it'll be of use for people. Sadly it doesn't really solve my main problem, namely that anyone can start an instance and then boot anyone they don't like without even disclosing their rules to begin with. If I wanted to have my social media prescence controlled by fascists I could just hang out on twitter instead, at least there I know what I get. Here it's just guesswork and a constant risk of your instance owner being a scumbag.
@Craftycat if you check the terms and site rules, you should be usually well aware of how the instance operates: has it good rules? A positive sign. No rules at all? A warning sign. My guess would be a fedipact signer with good rules should be pretty safe. @aral
@aral I find it funny that this is being discussed again because a certain US propaganda account that is irrelevant for most of the world now has threads. Like if I wanted to be fed propaganda I could simply watch a few select news channels.
Idk what you mean, there are in fact TERFs on fedi already there's an instance called spinsters i know of, of course they are blocked by most of us, no one is denying them access to the technology but we dont need to go out of our way to help them. That goes double for Meta or other mega corporations.
Just like the US government is perfectly capable of setting up an activitypub server.
Going put of your way to acvomodare the wealthiest and most powerful people on the planet against what may be the majority of one's userbase is certainly not becoming
More like: is internet big because a whitehouse (among other institutional actors) has a webpage? Is email big because whitehouse (among other..) has an adress?
@iju@big_louse That’s when they began to be exploited for profit. Because our economic system doesn’t enable us to image futures where exploitation ad enshittification isn’t the only possible option.
@aral What exactly do you precive the danger to be?
I don't like threads, but it's mere existence and inclusion doesn't seem to be dangerous. Right now it seems more like a benign tumor. Something to watch.
@aral I don't understand why threads is an issue. It seems like just another server to me. Maybe one with issues moderating people, but doesn't the massive amount of users and content on it outweigh that?
You can have the views that you want about #Threads and #Meta and all but exposing @Gargon to more cyber abuse. Those who you think you want to protect will themselves abuse Gargon in a heart beat.
Anyone replying to this with offensive tone will be blocked. I dont follow you Aral and wont ever do, Im not interested in any of the issue you comment about. Im commenting beacuse I follow the #Threads and I have seen countless of user offering cyber abuse towards Gargon.
@Wabbit@aral If you'd like a recommendation, most other platforms - i.e Non-Mastodon - have higher character limits. My own personal recommendation (the one I use across multiple accounts) is Sharkey, a Western fork of Misskey. Pleroma/Akkoma go higher, based on Admin whim.
To check which servers are blocking Threads check the Fedipact list, though be warned that's approximately 700 servers.
@Wabbit@aral It doesn’t matter if an instance federates with threads - like any other instance, if you want to block the whole instance, the option is in the ‘…’ menu on any post from threads.net. You have the power to decide for yourself.
It's just another instance in fediverse. Threads don't get any more data than other servers do. And your data is publicly available, that's why it's social media. This is more dangerous, than the service that you don't use anyway.
And even if you don't like threads, just block it.
@winet Sure. Let’s also federate with Gab and every other instance blocked for being a bad actor. In fact, let’s just remove the feature of blocking servers entirely from the Mastodon codebase.
@aral but I’ve got all my friends on Instagram where most are going to Threads, not Mastodon or any other part of the Fediverse. I love that I will be able to interact with them here.
Also, I think with the lack of algorithm here, most will find more engagement from Mastodon users than the void that is Threads.
I want to hate Meta too, but I actually think this will bring more awareness of the Fediverse than anything else, you know?
@aral yes you should probably move away from mastodon.social but not because they are federating with threats. Instead just because the server is becoming to crowded.
There is zero threat in federating with Threads (pun intended) and you can all relaxe about this a little 🙂
Eugene himself is doing a great job for the fediverse. Being open to even meta and not excluding them by principle.
Issues about moderation can and should be addressed to the threads team but please be fair.
@tgwtgs1589 Thanks, ThatGuyWithTheGreenShirt, I’m sure every vulnerable group on the fediverse can breathe easier now that you’ve set their minds at ease that it’s not a threat to your privileged self.
@aral I'll just sit and wait for some lawsuits against Eugen and his company for allowing people being robbed by Meta due to his ignorance and dumb actions. I wonder how long it takes to see the first one? 🤔 🙄
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