gwynnion,
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People on Bluesky have been bulk posting invite codes on "X," apparently trying to boost their follower numbers to more Twitter-like levels, but the codes have been snatched up by bots and now there's an influx of trolls and Neo-Nazi accounts. 🙄

gwynnion,
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Bluesky is full of people who complain Mastodon is "too hard" but who mostly seemed to want to port their Twitter followers and experience directly.

gwynnion,
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That is to say, I think a bunch of people who are used to being "a big deal" on Twitter are frustrated by Bluesky's perpetual closed beta. And I get it sucks starting over on a new site. But I don't think porting over the worst parts of the Twitter experience is what anyone had in mind.

jaythurbershow,
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@gwynnion Before I got onto Mastodon, I was fairly convinced by various media stories that it was "too difficult." I mean, more difficult than, what, falling out of bed? Sure. But anyone who can sign up for a Gmail account can figure out Mastodon.

jaythurbershow,
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@gwynnion Not that the user experience is seamless, but where is it?

Also, the first mobile app I tried for Mastodon was junk. I'm currently using Tusky, which seems fine so far.

Gargron,
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@jaythurbershow @gwynnion What was the app you tried?

jaythurbershow,
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@Gargron @gwynnion I knew someone would ask! (I just didn't know it would be you, lol)

I can't remember now. I deleted it from my phone, and it's not showing up in my Google App store history.

Gargron,
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@jaythurbershow @gwynnion Indeed, I have a professional interest in this. So it probably wasn't the official Mastodon app then, or you would have remembered, right?

jaythurbershow,
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@Gargron @gwynnion I really think it might have been the official app, but I can't say for certain, and I don't want to lead you astray.

What I remember is that although it supported multiple accounts, it had trouble switching from one to another. Two accounts it could manage; when I added a third, it would crash every time I tried to switch. It was a Moto G4 Play; don't remember which Android OS.

Gargron,
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@jaythurbershow @gwynnion Did it have a green landscape with colorful elephants on the starting screen?

jaythurbershow,
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@Gargron @gwynnion I barely remember what I had for breakfast.

But I finally found it in my Google Play history — yes, it was the official Mastodon app.

Gargron,
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@jaythurbershow @gwynnion Ah. If you remember, feel free to tell me what you didn't like about it via e-mail eugen@joinmastodon.org--unless the crash was the only thing.

lizmeyer,

@gwynnion @Gargron @jaythurbershow I have used the mastodon app but now prefer Metatext - if that’s of any interest to anyone. 🤔

gwynnion,
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@jaythurbershow I think Mastodon is actually easier than Bluesky and especially now has better tools to find people and stuff you're interested in.

Haste,
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@gwynnion You’re definitely right, the clout chase culture on Bluesky was very similar to Twitter.

A lot of people got a taste of being a mini celebrity and now communications platforms just don’t provide that same rush.

kkarhan,
melroy,
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@gwynnion that is actually a bit funny right? Except for the nazi part.

peterbutler,
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@gwynnion Inevitable and clear sign of failure to moderate once the site opens for real (if it ever does)

Roundcat,
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@gwynnion This is why I don't want us to advertise on Anyone who is still on the site is either a nazi or tolerates their presence. I want neither on this site.

Growth at any cost is the reason many sites have become shit. Quality of growth absolutely matters.

lin11c,
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@gwynnion Bluesky is still run by a billionaire in league with the Muskrat. Why would anyone go there? Sure, maybe the tech is good, Twitter actually was pretty special, but it was easily corrupted and sold off to a dangerous lunatic.

maschinentraum,
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@lin11c

People don’t care. Seriously. People go where people are (WhatsApp!). And they prefer something familiar.

Lots of politicians, journalists here in Germany are still on Xitter. Because of “relevance” and reach. In the last weeks quite some of them moved to BlueSky. Because a) they had a “I’ll invite you” train going on (so lots of people of their bubble are there) and b) it looks and feels like Twitter.

They don’t care about Musk or Dorsey at all. Just “relevance” and reach.

lin11c,
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@maschinentraum
I understand. Twitter was fun. I deleted my account and I am not going to Bluesky because I do not trust that even though I deleted my account on Twitter that it is actually deleted and Musk won't sell my data to Russia or China or some other dangerous fascist nation. Who knew having all that data would enable them to control and manipulate the narratives of conflicts and control elections. Bluesky's privacy policy is horrific. Maybe you haven't read it.

WhyNotZoidberg,
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@gwynnion How surprising.

zachvat,
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@gwynnion

Bluesky sounded good at first, but then it became clear it was starting out far too hoity-toity considering its lack of features.

I'm sure the invite system sounded like a good idea at the time. 😏

AimeeMaroux,
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@zachvat @gwynnion I think the invite system is / was a good call because that way, if somenoe invites you, some of your friends will already be there. I assume it also minimised the need for moderation at first.

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