@winter i can't see the poll for some reason but using this kbin account which for some reason hasn't been deleted yet i see winter @ translunar.academy
as you could argue any site with a comment section is social media.
I disagree with that. If the main purpose of your site is not interaction, so it cannot be a social media. Lemmy, Reddit, Kbin and other platforms like that has the main purpose share of knowledge and interaction between peers
For example, I may have a blog and this blog has a comment section in my posts. However, despite people can interact with each other in the comment section, the main purpose of my blog is post my own content. The interaction between people is secondary and consequence.
But in Lemmy the main purpose is interact. If not enough people participate, Lemmy dies. There is no other reason to use Lemmy other than interact with people.
No matter, how you connect to the Fediverse, be if, for example, Misskey, Sharkey, Ice Shrimp, Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed, Kbin, or by other means, the Fediverse instance you're using cost money. In the real world, web hosting, bandwidth, and storage space cost, money. And the more members who use and join your Fediverse instance (server), the more resources and the most it cost.
I earned by badge, by reaching out to my administrator, and helping them by donating. And while if it was not required to make a donation or regular contribution, I like using the Fediverse. It is ad-free and decentralized, meaning, someone like Elon Musk, cannot change things for everyone, everywhere, solely on their latest mood swing. So I made the choice to help fund my corner of the collective social media network, known as the Fediverse.
The randomized experiment you did is so cool! I love experiments like this -- like the Allais Paradox -- that reveal biases and irrationalities.
But in this case, as a game theorist, I aver that the switchers are correct. This is a classic application of Schelling points. If we all have the altruistic utility function "minimize death" then there are two Nash equilibria: (1) Everyone take the pill, and (2) no one take the pill. If the question is framed such that everyone taking the pill (like when it's just pressing one of two buttons) is focal, that's the equilibrium you expect and the one you rationally adopt yourself. When it's framed the other way, you expect the other equilibrium and rationally don't take the pill.
PS: I just realized that this is also the exact problem you called out in encouraging us to get set up on kbin for comments. The two equilibria are "no one else is going to set up an account so I won't bother to either" and "that's the new Schelling point for Dynomight comments so of course I want to be there too!"
PPS: Taking you up on your self-promotion encouragement, I predict that Dynomight readers will like the Beeminder blog, maybe especially the posts tagged "rationality". (Also I'm excited to see some of you at Less Online!)
Not sure about apps since I don't use any, but on the website versions of both Lemmy and Kbin instances, there is a link either on the sidebar or at the bottom of the page that says Modlog. It defaults to showing you a global list from all federated instances of all the most recent moderator actions. On Lemmy instances the moderator's names are hidden but on Kbin instances it will always show you Moderator > action taken.
(edit: on Lemmy instances only): There's also a useful search feature at the top which lets you look almost anything up.
This noob is testing the interconnectivity of the #Fediverse:
The word out there on the Fediverse make it seem as if all the different tools (Mastdn/P-tube/Lemmy/etc.) can interact with one another. But this is not the case, as some work both ways, whilst others only one way, or at all.
De todo el mareo con #Kbin y #Lemmy para grupos en #Mastodon puedo decir que aunque Kbin salga ganando no hay mucho visible desde Mastodon que justifique su uso para agrupar conversaciones de ciertos temas en lugar de usar hashtags.
Por ello activé en los grupos de Kbin que añadan las publicaciones que usen su respectivo hashtag como hilo de su sección de microblog.
Quien prefiera usar cuenta de Kbin en vez de Mastodon tiene cierta ventaja para comunicarse con el fediverso como si fuera #Reddit.
Siendo positivo y práctico sé que cualquiera puede seguir usando #Mastodon y entrar a #Kbin sin necesidad de crear una cuenta nueva, usar el buscador para navegar entre comunidades y en caso de encontrar cualquier hilo o comunidad con la que quiera interactuar, copiar su enlace, pegarlo en el buscador de su instancia de Mastodon y seguir desde ahí.
Ojalá fuera más cómodo, eso sí.
Pena que desde Mastodon los perfiles de los grupos de Kbin y #Lemmy se muestran vacíos aunque tengan publicaciones.
@dansup does stackoverflow really have anything that the other link aggregators / ranked forums like lemmy or kbin don't other than an automod closing functionality if you don't have enough karma and the ability for a thread's OP to pin a reply?
Yes. Stack Overflow isn't magic. I think they succeeded because they focused heavily on SEO, which brought both ask-ers and answer-ers to the site.
Personally, the "accepted answer" is the killer feature. Dunno if NodeBB, Kbin, or others already support this.
There's potential in SO's gamification aspects, too. I'd love to let third-party sites to award badges or "endorsements" and display them on my profile page. This could work in all kinds of trust/credibility situations.
One thing that would have been nice to know as a newbie on the Fediverse:
The most common misconception, or at least from this side, was that they make it seem as if they all can connect and interact with one another. But this is not the case, as some work one way, some can only like or follow, others don’t get notifications at all when tagged.
So have been testing over the past few weeks and made accounts on: a) Hubzilla b) Friendica c) Mastodon d) Kbin e) Lemmy f) Iceshrimp g) Bonfire h) Peertube i) Funkwhale j) Pixelfed
And just out of curiosity: a) Using Bridgyfed, to test interactivity between the AT protocol of BlueSky and AP protocol of the Fediverse. b) Meta’s Threads for testing with Mastadon. c) Starting to test Nostr with its peer-to-peer network.
TL;DR:
The fediverse holds a lot of promise, but it the ideal level of interconnectivity isn’t there yet. (And yes, not all of them need to be able to connect and interact on the same level of details as with the others, as they are different tools.)
So have been testing over the past few weeks and made accounts on: a) Hubzilla b) Friendica c) Mastodon d) Kbin e) Lemmy f) Iceshrimp g) Bonfire h) Peertube i) Funkwhale j) Pixelfed
I’m only interested in moving my friends away from Facebook, and have the same fun we used to have as a group, for now nothing seem to match FB functionality unfortunately…
Have your own profile
Public and Private Groups
1 to 1 chats
And of course no one would consider joining a platform without a ( feature complete ) mobile app, Firefish is amazing but it has no mobile clients that look as a good as the website, and people say Friendica is the ethical Facebook, but it’s ugly…😅 i don’t know what to recommend ?
There's a really cool one I used to love called The 13th Floor that used to be active and then one week the mod and his friends disappeared.
After the mod was gone for a month I took over moderation to protect it from spam or deletion, but I have other projects so can't really do it justice. I would love it if it got a new lease on life.
I mod 4, but only the smallest one (worldwithoutus) is actually mine.
It has about 240 people now, so according to the 90:9:1 rule (out of every 100 people 1 posts and 9 interact) there should be 2 people posting but in reality it's not at that point yet! However, I like doing it.
The other 3 are bigger but not any more active.
very small user bases
If you're talking about the stats, you're probably only able to see how many accounts from your own instance are subscribers.
Kbin is kind of weird because the software is way less developed than Lemmy and it has regular outages, so a lot of people signed up and then left, a lot of communities got abandoned due to inactive mods and spam problems. So something like the kbin worldnews community I mod has literally thousands of inactive subscribers.
Oh shoot, I meant the above for @small44 actually, i.e. OP. I don’t believe you had replied to me at any point, hence that wasn’t meant for you.
That said-- I’m not too sure the “90:9:1” rule applies so well to the FV. For one thing, it seems like a good number of subscribers tried out Lemmy (etc) at some point and then went back to Reddit (etc), meaning they’re no longer really here. Another point is that since the FV moves a lot more slowly than Reddit, I question whether FV users are as active here compared to other places.
About the bias of me seeing only part of Small44’s community numbers due to filtering by my own instance-- you’re right of course, but after double-checking their overall global numbers, they’re actually only a tiny bit larger. Ironically or not, most of their users came from my own instance (lemm.ee). So their numbers across three communities are really too small to ever be properly viable IME.
So something like the kbin worldnews community I mod has literally thousands of inactive subscribers.
Ah, that makes more sense if it was meant for small44. The only reason I thought your numbers were out was because I thought you were talking to me about my communities.
Geez, that’s… not good
It's not ideal, and kbin did fork. In my opinion it was not the dev's fault, it wasn't even really a beta when he suddenly got swamped with reddit refugees. But I believe in his vision.
There are two mods currently, Ernest, admin of kbin as well as owner of /m/tech, and @artillect, who hasn't been seen (except for votes maybe?) for 8 months.
The word is that Ernest has real-life problems and can't maintain kbin at the moment.
I've applied here and a bunch of other places but hopefully better-qualified, more active people have also applied; Even if I get it, I can't be here all the time.
... but it needs the owner of the magazine, Ernest, who isn't around, to accept the applications.
@enobacon Not until reminded. Not sure if it is how kbin works, or firefox, but looking at alt text is annoying enough that I would assume nobody looks at it.
A lot of the larger abandoned magazines are just spam pools now. I don't see their posts in my feed, but I don't like that the two sidesbars of random posts and threads are now just spam advertising sidebars. I triedblocking the magazines, but doesn't that prevent the posts from showing in those sidebars....
I just saw another one in random(@kbin.social), so I jumped in and scrolled back; there were only a couple in the past two days, but three days ago there was a series of several posts in a row (6? 8? Something like that).
I an not subscribed to any kbin magazines, so I don’t see them in my curated feed; they mostly show up in the uncurated “World.”
FWIW; you expressed curiosity, so I followed up with an example.
Indeed. I've heard that from others as well.
I, personally, do not intend to delete my account (yet), but I am aware that it is a manual process. As so much is here, it seems.
I recently made some adjustments to my stuff here and it's helped a little. (You'll see the irony momentarily.)
I've unsubscribed from most kbin magazines and have subscribed to magazines (communities) from other Fediverse instances instead. Now my feed actually has content and a lack of SPAM. So, essentially, I'm here in name only.
Eventually, all of us normal users will need to ditch this platform because we won't our names/accounts tied to something that is notorious for SPAM and other illegal activities. Perhaps sooner than later, if the rest of the Fediverse decides to stop federating with kbin.
Until then, I figure at least I can still look through the window at the rest of the Fediverse.
Do you consider Lemmy/Reddit (and similar platforms) to be social media?
I had this discussion with a friend, and we really couldn’t reach a consensus....
Fighting me and other survey results (dynomight.net)
Do extroverts have more martial confidence?
In the mod logs I see posts/comments removed for violating rules. Is there anywhere someone can find these rules?
Is there a list somewhere? Are the rules different per instance?? I see:...
Testing the Fediverse's interconnectivity between apps and protocols
One thing that would have been nice to know as a newbie on the Fediverse:...
*Best* video for explaining the Fediverse to a total noob?
Suggestions?
What some Lemmy communities that are dead or very low number of new posts that you would like to get more active?
My pick is /c/albumartporn
New Mods Please
Like seriously, where are the current ones at? There's too much trash and clutter posts here.
Could blocked magazines no longer appear in Random Post and Random Thread sidebars?
A lot of the larger abandoned magazines are just spam pools now. I don't see their posts in my feed, but I don't like that the two sidesbars of random posts and threads are now just spam advertising sidebars. I triedblocking the magazines, but doesn't that prevent the posts from showing in those sidebars....
Kbin /m/fediverse is over 90% spam
Looking at the front page of this forum and many others, leads me to conclude that kbin has a ridiculous spam problem....