So the basic story would be that mastodon's dominance is pretty entrenched and the "migration" event is mostly "over" (whatever other "events" are on their way)
But I wonder about the details of the firefish moment
I think it revealed that there are/were plenty interested in novel & different platforms. We're novelty seekers after all right. Generally, I'd wager any new platform needs some degree of novelty to "make it".
Further, its collapse showed how hard creating a new platform is.
@maegul I’m not saying that you were blaming anyone. It’s just a shitty situation, one that I lament often.
I loved Firefish. I really thought the project had a moment where it was going to go big, but there were too many problems. It’s upsetting.
But yeah, I think we’re all hoping to see something get big like Mastodon, maybe even eclipse it. Why that hasn’t happened remains something of a mystery, with potentially depressing tells: most projects and developers in the space are barely making any income, are spread way too thin, and effectively doing hard work for years and years.
I want Fediverse projects to succeed. I think a few are in really good places. But, I worry that many are running themselves into the ground.
single line replies in timelines for iceshrimp, firefish and potentially other derivatives. see quoted post for how it looks. extremely hacky and might mess up. will not work in sharkey or other "modern" misskey instances
requires a browser with nyative nested css and :has (so, literally anything from the last year or so)
ogni tanto tanto vi ricordo che esistono due bellissime istanze nel #fediverso una è #foxyhole istanza #firefish e l'altra è #neptube istanza #peertube entrabi gestisti da ragazzi (si fa per dire eh!!) bellissimi e intelligentissimi
Some news from the #Firefish front! Kainoa (former lead dev who has been absent for several months now) finally passed control of the donations platform to naskya, the new owner of the project. I'm happy to report that Firefish is becoming a healthy project again, and that members of the community have stepped up to get the development going. For those who didn't migrate to other platforms during the project's crisis: You're safe and in good hands.
@panos Finally! I have been waiting for this follow up for months. Just in time too as I was just about to put together a video on the history of Firefish starting from Calckey. This will bring a much needed happy ending to the video.
@panos While I'm now happily on Sharkey and not for moving again I am very pleased to see my former home, Firefish, emerging from the doldrums and wish it every success. This is great news.
Just curious, with the recent demise of #Firefish -- are the forks like #Catodon#Iceshrimp etc viable / sustainable alternatives? Do they share a common base, so one could expect updates into the future if they to cease to exist?
@lps Firefish is not dead and Catodon is now rebased on Iceshrimp.
Iceshrimp dev is now mostly focused on the rewrite which won’t have any code in common with Firefish.
So I would say the most stable option still seems to be Firefish at the moment but I have good faith in the Iceshrimp project, but it is not yet mature at the moment
Alright, I know I haven't given many updates on #Catodon, because frankly there's not a lot to say. We're reorganizing, reprioritizing etc. Things are going slow. I haven't given up on the project, I think we have an interesting approach which is worth exploring, but we're short on human resources atm. Hopefully this will change and things will get exciting again, but we're not there yet. I'll let you know.
However, I wanna talk about another project I'm also sort of involved in lately - #Iceshrimp! So Iceshrimp also started as a #Firefish fork but they are currently rewriting the whole thing on .net/C#! Both the backend and frontend are being rewritten in C# - the frontend on Blazor. AFAIK this is the only fedi project written on .net and I'm really curious for the result!
This has been announced many months before, and Iceshrimp-js is in feature freeze, to allow all efforts to concentrate in the rewrite. Many people were skeptical because it's a huge project - which is true. So let me tell you that finally #Iceshrimp's rewrite will be entering beta soon - meaning, probably before the month is through!
This will practically be a brand new fedi platform, with a UX similar to Firefish (at least initially), with great Mastodon API support for compatibility with existing apps, hopefully with much better performance and a cleaner codebase. I'll keep you posted on how things progress!
@AmyIsCoolz I also think it's a super cool project! The lead dev really cares, support is great, and they are very transparent and inclusive with the whole rewriting process, giving updates in real time on chat.iceshrimp.dev/ . Very eager to get to the beta stage of the C# rewrite.
@spacehost_help
Where is it editable? Also, I'm not sure what you mean by having it done, but it seems to me that @hei is not changed. I would like it to be "kristian", not "hei".
Könntest du bitte die #AriaApp in meinen Artikel über Calckey/Firefish auf GNULinux.ch mit aufnehmen?
Ich würde sogar die GIT Version eher empfehlen, die sieht besser aus 😉
Eigentlich müsste sie über die F-Droid App zu finden sein, zumal sie auch nicht über ein Entra-Repo angeboten wird. Ansonsten halt über https://f-droid.org/packages/com.poppingmoon.aria/ oder auch https://github.com/poppingmoon/aria. Über letztere Seite steht sogar schon die Version 0.7.0 als APK zum Download bereit, während F-Droid noch bei v0.6.1 steht.