Die ursprünglichen #Forum'e im #Internet gelten schon länger als #veraltet und die scheinbare alternative Lösung #Reddit hat nun #KI integriert und schnuppern die #User aus. Die wahre #Alternative finden wir wieder im Fediverse und sind ua #kbin / #Mbin so wie #Lemmy. Ja das #Fediverse ist viel mehr als nur #Mastodon und Co und kommuniziert nicht nur auf einem Server, sondern in der #Community (ihr kennt es evt schon)
Hello #Kbin! I'm signing up on every fediverse site I can find to try all the different interfaces, features, and wacky combinations the open web has to offer. I'll probably be sharing my findings on WriteFreely or Plume after a while. I apologize in advance for any weirdness that may result from my experiments. 😅
Hello again #Fediverse, I may need your #fedihelp. So, here's a list of the Fediverse software I'm about to make temporary accounts for to test all the features and differences:
So, did I miss anything noteworthy? Does anyone have any tips or recommendations before I choose a server for any one of these? I'll probably be going for the most popular server on each for improved federation and maintenance.
Note: I'm using #Sharkey right now and Misskey forks are already overrepresented, so that's why it's not included.
@danieldekay no the same - I have hundreds of different followers on each network, although all could follow on either one. I post manually to Hubzilla, but my Friendica site auto-posts from my blog RSS feed.
Both networks are profile -only posts, so no separation into topics like Google+ had. I loved posting into topics as that gave some focus for followers. Actually think Reddit has that inside channels, but I left Reddit for Lemmy.
The #Fediverse spam attack is pretty interesting as a single user instance owner. Unless someone I follow on #Mastodon interacts with a spam post, I don't get to see it. Consequently, I don't think I've seen a single one via Mastodon.
I use Mastodon to follow a bunch of #Lemmy and #Kbin communities though, which function when viewed by Mastodon as a user boosting every post to their community. Therefore I'm seeing a lot of posts that way (before blocking and reporting).
I'm out of the loop so not sure if there's a solution being mulled by instance admins, but it seems like a hard problem to solve. Captchas, restricted signups, and manual approvals, then defederating from instances that don't moderate them I guess?
@rhys Just be careful. Small instances with open registration are the main vector of attack. They're the ones being co-opted by the spammers to launch the spam wave
#kbin is a mostly great Reddit-Like service that collects the fediverse into one place. That is an issue because there are servers out there which post illegal stuff. My day was ruined by reporting those who post that gross, illegal content! 🤢
I'm probably going to play No Man's Sky for the rest of today to get over the icky and uncomfortable feeling that pervades my mind. Especially since I'm still trying to complete the Living Starship Quest.
@CaptManiac I'm struggling with it as well, finding a portal at the best of times is challenging! Now my luck has been reduced to nothing. I might take a break and do an Expedition so my mind doesn't break due to being subjected to the whimsy of RNG.
Some sage scifi: community lessons in a post-Reddit universe. It’s been eight months since the Reddit blackout. We didn’t know what to expect last June, but we did know that Reddit jumped the shark of Internet relevance. #Reddit#Fediverse#Mastodon#Kbin
1/17
Reddit shut down third party apps, introduced API pricing, and crushed the biggest protest in their history. Since then, the topic of the Blackout has gone a bit dark – you can’t seem to find any top-level articles analyzing the blackout past 6/30/23 – and the media cycle has moved onto other topics.
2/17
But what happened to science fiction? Did the scifi community grow or change as a result of the Reddit blackout? I took a quick look over at Social-Rise (/r/scifi and /r/sciencefiction) and the results are startling – see for yourself:
In each of the three screenshots – the dots indicate daily post/comment activity on each subreddit. Higher dots mean higher activity, lower dots indicate lower activity.
3/17
Us sitting here with our fiber internet and recent model phones have it pretty good. But the “i” in iPhone stands for “inequality”. Most people in the world still have pretty bad internet and old/slow phones. For a platform to be widely adopted and to serve the needs of those who often miss out, it needs to be frugal in network and cpu usage.
Lemmy
Kbin
PieFed
Home page
4.5 MB
1.65 MB
700 KB – 930 KB
Viewing a post
360 KB
826 KB (varies)
29 KB
Home pages
Due to Lemmy’s javascript-heavy software architecture, visiting a Lemmy home page involves downloading . And this only gets you 20 posts! Also community thumbnails, even if displayed as a 22px by 22px icon are served directly from their home instances, unresized, which can often be multiple megabytes in size. The home page of lemmy.nz is currently weighing over 9 MB.
Kbin’s home page comes in at a respectable 1.65 MB due to relying less on JavaScript. However it is let down by not using loading=”lazy” on images so they all need to be loaded immediately and by generating post thumbnails that are twice as big as they need to be.
When viewing a post, we can assume various assets (CSS, JS and some images) are cached due to loading the home page first.
The picture looks similar when viewing a post, which is a bit surprising. One of the usual benefits of the JS-heavy SPA architecture used by Lemmy is that once all the ‘app’ is loaded into the browser, subsequent pages only involve a small API call. However, going to a page in Lemmy involves two API calls (one for the page and one for the comments) both of which return quite a bit of data. If you look at the ‘get the comments on this post’ JSON response you can see the developers have fallen into the classic SPA pitfall of “over-fetching“. They’re retrieving a whole haystack from the backend and then using JavaScript to find the needle they want, which involves transferring the haystack over the internet. Ideally the backend would find the needle and just send that to the frontend.
Kbin sends more data than it needs to when viewing a post, again because of not using loading=”lazy” which causes every profile picture of the commenters to be loaded at once. Making this simple fix would bring the weight down, from ~800 KB to around 50 KB.
PieFed only sends 10 KB – 30 KB to show a post, but it varies depending on the number and length of comments. This could be reduced even more by minifying the HTML response but with PieFed under active development I prefer the source to be as readable as possible to aid in debugging.
This is no accident. It is the result of choices made very early on in the development process, well before any code was written. These choices were made based on certain priorities and values which will continue to shape PieFed in the future as it grows. In a world where digital access remains unequal, prioritizing accessible and fast-loading websites isn’t just about technology; it’s a step towards a more inclusive and equitable society.
@piefedadmin Let me second that design needs to anticipate low bandwidth. I have lived in several countries across Africa where watching YouTube was only possible if using the lowest video settings -- 240p or 360p. Thanks for highlighting the average global user's challenges on the internet.
Yeah, it has to be experienced first hand to really understand. Many web developers in the first world have only ever had excellent internet connections.
I spent 4 years in South East Asia, working remotely, often from rural areas with a couple of bars of 3G. Then, 3 years powering my life from 300 watts of solar panels while using a 4G connection.
In teoria dovreste poter seguire gli aggiornamenti tramite @ulaulanotepad direttamente da qualunque account federato.
Spero questa cosa funzioni (i post che vanno al gruppo di astronomia su #feddit li vedo anche qui sulla mia timeline mastodontica, per esempio).
Welche #Reddit Alternativen gibt es denn gerade?
Ich habe #Lemmy und #kbin auf dem Schirm und habe nur ein unbestimmtes Gefühl dass es an Lemmy viel Kritik gab, vielleicht auch an Kbin. Habt ihr mir da mehr Infos?
Hintergrund: Ich würde r/fellnasen auch gerne hier im Fediverse haben. Die Community hier ist wahrscheinlich sehr klein aber einen Versuch wäre es ja wert. #Ratten#haustiere
@LemmyDev@moanos Interessant, dass Du Dich nicht zu China (möge Winnie the Pooh den Weg aller mörderischen Diktatoren gehen), Nord Korea, LaRouchite Gedankengut, dem Massaker an Uighuren, etc. äußerst.
Und, nein, wenn ich mit dem Gedankengut des Chefs von Müllermilch nicht einverstanden bin, und dem Umgang den er pflegt, kann ich nicht losziehen und "Weihenstephan" kaufen gehen, weil das ja eine "andere Firma" ist, die nur Müller Milch's Technologie verwendet.
So lange Lemmygrad und Lemmy.ml Brutstätten eines pro-Stalinist, pro-CCP, pro-Nord Korea, Holodomor-verherrlichenden, LaRouchite Gedankengut verbreitenden, Sumpfes sind, und sich Lemmy nicht nur mit "alles Lügen" rausredet sondern ganz klar von diesen diktatorischen, genozidalen, Regimes distanziert, steht meine Aussage.
Und, nein, der weiche Whataboutismus "aber Amerika, whine whine" zieht nicht. Der zieht, wenn in China freie Wahlen stattfinden und Regimekritiker nicht mehr ermordet werden.
@mikka@moanos Grade eben hast du noch von Antisemitismus, Tankies und Klimaleugner schwadroniert. Kaum antworte ich darauf ziehst du schon den nächsten Unsinn aus dem Hut. Hast du echt nichts besseres zu tun als Open-Source Projekte schlecht zu reden?