indieterminacy, to fediverse

@ernest Ive been running parallel instances between both your technology & the one provides for my group

However in getting around to testing the interoperabilty from your side, I realize that the attribution is off:

https://kbin.social/m/xq_icebreaker@lemmy.ml

Naturally, you are not the owner for any of these groups but you are classed as such.
And datas off.

I get it that you are trying to grow your instance and tech but please do resolve these anomalies once things settle down.

ernest,
ernest avatar

@indieterminacy The moderation between instances is working properly - you can check it in the Modlog. Fixing the community owner label and the list of moderators will be the next thing I'll do, sorry about that.

indieterminacy,

@ernest Heres something which you should read
https://bureaucracksy.constantvzw.org/delicious-user-guide/

Its a history I did of Delicious and socialbookmarking

erlend, (edited ) to fediverse
@erlend@writing.exchange avatar

UPDATE: I’m setting up a instance and would love to hear from people!


https://blog.erlend.sh/juicy-clients 🍹

If I'm peeking into an instance, show me its preferred UI form.

..on mastodon.social, show me the
UI.
..on calckey.social, show me the UI
..on bookwyrm.social, show me the UI.
..on mitra.social, show me the UI.
..on pixelfed.social, show me the UI.
(..on bluesky.social, show me the UI.)

erlend,
@erlend@writing.exchange avatar

@silverpill the way most 3rd party apps are currently resourced, I agree that they can’t be expected to support features that diverge far from the Mastodon conventions. If self-sustaining operations like @ivory manage to grow a little bit more though, I do think it’s feasible.

For projects like Mitra that already has a Vue frontend, the added features in Elk could come from you. They get special-case support for Mitra, you get to focus on a small subset of features instead of a full frontend.

erlend,
@erlend@writing.exchange avatar

@silverpill centralization around a small handful of top tier clients poses no threat to the decentralizing ethos.

Clients don’t have the same lock-in effects as servers because client migrations are (1) instantaneous and (2) lossless.

I can move from Ivory to IceCubes in less than a minute.

Clients built on top of open protocols have no moat. They can only retain users by providing continued utility, and that’s a Very Good Thing.

What we wanna centralize here is our collective work force.

atomicpoet, to fediverse
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social avatar

For Reddit alternatives on the Fediverse, I prefer over . Here's why:

  1. Navigation: The top navbar on /kbin seems clear and precise, while Lemmy seems noisy

  2. Posts: There's clear separation in /kbin with boxes, while Lemmy posts are not segmented and therefore bleed into each other.

  3. Discoverability: Even though /kbin is used by drastically fewer people than Lemmy, it seems easier to find people across the Fediverse who discuss topics

@fediversenews

Lemmy screenshot in mobile mode

skotchygut,

@atomicpoet @fediversenews any starting points I can evangelize to friends of mine who use reddit? Like whom to make an account with to get started?

FeralRobots,
@FeralRobots@mastodon.social avatar

@atomicpoet
Both do a thing that Mastodon also does, which is to not underline links - it makes them harder to see, degrades user experience for - well, everyone, but especially low vision users & people with certain cognitive/perceptual issues. (E.g. I find it challenging when I have a migraine, which is often, or when my eyesight is glitchy - also often.)

@fediversenews

fabian, to php
@fabian@floss.social avatar

🔖 /kbin is an open source -like content aggregator and platform for the

➡️ https://kbin.pub/

:codeberg: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core
📖 https://kbin.pub/en/docs

maegul, to fediverse
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

@fediversenews

One of the interesting things I've seen on the fediverse:

blahaj.zone run both a and instance under the same domain/community. (I learnt this by running into @ada on lemmy, who is also @ada on calckey)

See:
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/
https://blahaj.zone/

I don't know how effective it is in practice, but it sure seems like a great way to foster more diversity and richness in the fediverse experience, especially if some integrations can be built, like mutual ids.

MetalSamurai,
@MetalSamurai@mas.to avatar

@ada @fediversenews @ada @maegul It would probably make more sense for an organisation to do it for members. But I’d quite like the simplicity of a one stop shop. I’ve set up several accounts on different platforms to try them out. They’re all obviously me, but not linked, which is a pain.

jupiter_rowland,

@Probably Paul 🌍 @maegul @Kevin Davidson @Ada #CalcKey has full #NomadicIdentity?

As in, you can have identical clones of your account/channel simultaneously on multiple instances? They're kept in-sync with each other in real-time? All clones display the same Webfinger ID which uses the domain of the primary instance? And you can make any clone your new primary instance?

Because this is what nomadic identity actually means.

The only projects known to me that support it are #Hubzilla, #Streams and the now-defunct #Zotlabs projects #Redmatrix, #Osada, #Zap, #Misty a.k.a. #Mistpark2020 and #Roadhouse, basically everything created by Mike Macgirvin after #Friendica.

In fact, I've got my doubts that full nomadic identity can be pulled off without having multiple channels per account/login. And this is another feature which the projects mentioned above have and the ActivityPub-based microblogging/macroblogging/"social network" projects don't.

Or are you referring to how easy it is to move your entire account with everything on it from one instance to another? That isn't what nomadic identity means.

0x1C3B00DA, to random
0x1C3B00DA avatar

Trying out (https://kbin.social). It's a link aggregator like /reddit/lobsters but also has microblogging support. Lets see if federation works

eee,

@0x1C3B00DA hello from Mastodon

rolle, to fediverse
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

I would like to endorse other minor web apps in the , but most of them are full of UI glitches, are incomplete and downright buggy looking odd things.

From my designer point of view and are the only effective ones, because they speak to people who are used to proper visual design language (read: Non-nerds, non-engineers, the regular people and design oriented people).

Things like , , and newer niche apps cause reactions like: "What is this?", they look like back end is fine but nobody is in charge of the design and the UI has no direction whatsoever. It's the general culprit in the programming world: A back end developer thinks everything is fine when we add a CSS framework and that's that.

If we just get the UI right everywhere, we get more people to the . I just wish there was more /design people willing to contribute.

rolle,
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

@mitexleo I would like to contribute to many things. But I have limited time and energy, so I just focus on the things that I myself use and are the easiests, to save myself from burning out. Right now the is my sole focus and perhaps later the CSS/UI in general. is out of scope time/energy-wise for me right now.

I too hope that more excited people have motivation and time to help, but I'm well aware of the fact that all the good ones are overworked and busy with projects they make money from, me included. But one can hope. :bunhdlurkaww:

MerriNet,
@MerriNet@mastodon.social avatar

@rolle @mitexleo I can give feedback on the Join Lemmy site: it doesn't show what it is about, the content does not match what is seen. The first screenshot is code. And first item in feature list mentions Docker and Ansible. I'm a dev and this kind of prio turns me away because I only touch those tools if I absolutely have to.

All the coder first content should be removed from the intro page, it should instead be part of how to/getting started.

paul, to fediverse
@paul@digitalstuntfactory.com avatar

I was thinking earlier that it would be pretty cool to have an -powered app that uses something like the old feature that, in turn, supports post formats that other services use.

For example, the app can post regular posts like this one, structured link posts that work with services like , galleries through @pixelfed and videos through .

Unless automatically reformats posts based on what they contain when a user of services like these receives them in their feeds? I'm not sure how this works under the metaphorical hood. 🤔

pfefferle,
@pfefferle@mastodon.social avatar

@paul @pixelfed the WordPress plugin does support post formats, but sadly most other platforms ignore it 😞 https://mastodon.social/@pfefferle/110220607469139924#

paul,
@paul@digitalstuntfactory.com avatar

@pfefferle Are you saying that the plugin supports post formats so you could share a video post to , a gallery post to @pixelfed, and so on, for example?

padraig, to fediverse

I am always fascinated that I can take a link for a completely different platform (), stick into or and have the ability to reply to it, boost it or whatever.

Like, I have been using services for a few years on and off (Pretty much full-time since November 2022) but those small things make my mind go...

🤯

symfonystation, to fediverse
@symfonystation@phpc.social avatar

Enjoy our newest article: You say you want a revolution: help the free, fair, and friendly Fediverse destroy Big Social. https://www.symfonystation.com/Fediverse :fediverse: :mastodon: #/kbin

paninid,
@paninid@mastodon.world avatar

@symfonystation This is super helpful. I personally really appreciate the root, trunk, branch, and leaf perspective on the ecosystem!

maegul, to fediverse
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

@ajsadauskas
@fuck_cars

I notice that you’re cc’ing fuck_cars. But I’m not sure it is working as a group? I had a quick look and couldn’t see this thread on the page or boosted by fuck_cars itself.

Could it be the case that Lemmy communities don’t really work like other groups but instead require a parent post originating from lemmy?

Like, can you post to a lemmy community a new post (not comment) from Mastodon?

djsaskdja,

Thought I was being tagged in the title of this post for a second lol.

odium,

I’m on Lemmy and I can see this on my feed and it says the community is !fuck_cars

informapirata, to fediverse Italian
@informapirata@mastodon.uno avatar

Sei un utente Mastodon e vorresti usare i gruppi/forum Friendica e le comunità Lemmy? Allora questa guida fa per te!

@fediverso

  • Come funzionano i /forum e le comunità
  • Cosa sono queste utenze
  • Cosa rende diversa una comunità Lemmy da un gruppo/forum Friendica?
  • Come scrivere da un messaggio indirizzato a un gruppo/forum o a una comunità
  • Come trovare o creare gruppi/forum Friendica e comunità Lemmy

@forum

https://www.informapirata.it/2023/03/27/tips-mastodon-come-usare-i-gruppi-forum-friendica-e-le-comunita-lemmy/

Stark9837, to lemmy
@Stark9837@techhub.social avatar

@fediversenews

We talk a lot about , but has anyone heard of ? Just found it on @privacytools. I just want to know if anyone has used it and what their experience was like.

It appears that it is peer-to-peer but uses its own protocol unfortunately and not .

https://getaether.net/docs/how_is_it_different_from/

helgztech,
@helgztech@fosstodon.org avatar

@Stark9837 @fediversenews @privacytools a friend was just asking about this but I'm finding very little discourse around Aether. It sounds like an interesting protocol, but there's no point if people aren't there. I feel Mastodon may have the critical mass.

informapirata, to fediverse

La sola idea di inviare un messaggio da Pixelfed per vederselo ricondividere su Lemmy (una piattaforma così diversa) è qualcosa di esaltante!
@fediverso
Quando si parla di crisi di (crisi, peraltro inventata da blogger disinformati e in cerca di click) ci si dimentica di che cosa sia il e di come i recinti costruiti dalle grandi piattaforme centralizzate stiano per essere spazzati via dalla rete libera, federata e interconnessa!

ugone,
@ugone@mastodon.cisti.org avatar

@informapirata @fediverso Una curiosità questa immagine da dove viene? è la rappresentazione artistica o estrapolata dai collegamenti del fediverso ? o semplicemente una bella immagine recuperata per dare l idea?

informapirata,
@informapirata@mastodon.uno avatar

@ugone The Internet 2003
"This is our first full Internet map with color and other graphing logic. RFC1918 addresses have been hashed into a unique checksum so they do not incorrectly overlap with other routers or hosts. Another bit of code also removed the routing loops that made a rather large mess out of previous maps. The colors were based on Class A allocation of IP space to different registrars in the world."
https://www.opte.org/the-internet (22/11/2003)

@informapirata @fediverso

smallcircles, to fediverse
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

Hurray, will get support and enter the 🚀

The folks at have just announced their plan to develop a plugin integration.

Support will be similar to what is provided by .

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/adding-federation-support-to-discourse/2966

https://meta.discourse.org/t/federation-support-for-discourse/90921/87

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