smallcircles, to fediverse
@smallcircles@social.coop avatar

🤩 Aren't you just delighted by all those proprietary software apps for the ?

😮 Don't be. Each time you choose proprietary you help turn the fedi slowly in the direction of the usual corporate hellscape that the rest of the Web already is.

😨 And then we end up in an online space where for years we can complain to each other how we squandered an opportunity and how won once more.

🎯 Use apps instead, created by the public for the public.

🌻 Keep the Fediverse open.

hamishcampbell,
@hamishcampbell@mastodon.social avatar

@smallcircles a mess indeed, and mess making all round.

As you just said, we can't keep doing this crap.

Composting is the path for parasites and the the core of this mess.

Think positive projects outside this mess making, need crew, focus and dev :)

And is a good hashtag for this http://hamishcampbell.com/2023/10/09/dontbeaprat-whats-next/

Hamishcampbell, to random

A reminder this instance will have to shut down due to lack of funding soon #modteam

We need your feedback on this.

rooftopaxx,

@Hamishcampbell OK, leaving the thing aside and limiting this to any Mastodon instance, wondering more whether this discussion reaches 'users' such as eg @LMN - looking around in the Profiles directory https://campaign.openworlds.info/directory most here are either inactive or possibly lurking. One day they'll wake up and find their instance dead or perhaps they'll never even notice ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Hamishcampbell,

@rooftopaxx we have been running these instances for admin and mod for the projects rather than the power for social change, as you say the instance community failed a year or more ago.

We now face a funding crunch due to none of the funding applications going through for the tech projects... so it's supporting community or closer

Hamishcampbell,

@nedhamson @michaelgraaf @rooftopaxx the information is scattered all over the place, and has been repeated for 20 years :)

The openclective is the funding side of the #OMN and
campaign openworlds info? is an instances that is a part of this wider #openweb activist project #OMN

Hamishcampbell,

@nedhamson you can donate here https://opencollective.com/open-media-network to help cover some of keeping this instance online for the last year.

If we close down will post how to migrate help pages

Hamishcampbell, to diy

You guys need to talk to each other @michaelgraaf @rooftopaxx @nedhamson as this space is #DIY culture

rooftopaxx,

@Hamishcampbell @michaelgraaf @nedhamson
OK, without wanting to get into the long long history of visionon.tv and the , and focussing on the 'campaign' instance, been looking at the Live feed https://campaign.openworlds.info/public/local

There's very few of us active 'users', who knows how many others are lurking?

In terms of those donating towards the funding of the OMN (which in turn funds and administrates/moderates the 'campaign' instance) there are 10 Financial contributors
https://opencollective.com/open-media-network

Next?

Hamishcampbell,

@rooftopaxx @michaelgraaf @nedhamson @EarthWolf

Yep this is a shame as the fluffy spiky debate is key to real rather social change and challenge, it's basic stuff.

If we can all build a community to sustain the instances then we can reboot activism as a different codebase than mastodon, the are a lot so the ida is still good, can we build a community of use rather than individuals "shouting into the void" as we unkindly like to say at the #OMN

witchescauldron, to fediverse
@witchescauldron@kolektiva.social avatar

The "shouting into the void" of the has become much worse with the influx of the people back to the

Q. what actually makes this space live?

witchescauldron,
@witchescauldron@kolektiva.social avatar

@BeAware we had to shut down the two instances we had been running for 5 years because of this "shouting into the void" issue. its getting much worse, yes I understand It's still better than the , but it's a very real issue if you have been her since the beginning

Hamishcampbell, to fediverse

Hamish Campbell is an organic intellectual and a part of the . He is the owner of the website http://hamishcampbell.com, which features his projects, videos, and blog posts. He is also active on social media platforms such as the , Twitter and YouTube. Hamish is interested in the intersection of politics and technology and believes that all code is ideology solidified into action. He is critical of contemporary code based on capitalism.

Hamishcampbell, (edited ) to KISS

The "tragedy of the commons" is complex as it's a real thing inside capitalism, and we do all live inside capitalism, so it's a real thing. For it not to be a real thing, you will need to change the human world to live in a different economic system to capitalism - this is a challenge.

So functionally, it is a real thing that we encounter in most alternatives. Best to keep this in mind when building alternatives

etc :)

Hamishcampbell, to random

Let's look at the social and political ground the owners of our "new" social media stand on:

X (twitter) is far right
Threads (Facebook/Instagram) corporate right
Nostor Libertarian right

Mastodon centre left

That's it, we have no real left-wing social media, good to keep this in mind when supporting projects

witchescauldron, (edited ) to random

We self-host nearly 3000 videos on our server http://visionon.tv, and you can watch over, 8000 more federated videos on activism and technology. Self-hosting costs real money which we don't have, if you would like to support this then set up a recurring donation here https://opencollective.com/open-media-network to keep his space available for people to step away from the mess we are all in.

witchescauldron, to internet

If you take the business wank out, this is exactly how the ten-year-old project works https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/4-13-2023-moderation masked

Hamishcampbell, to random

This is how the works https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/20/bluesky-plans-decentralized-composable-moderation/ our ideas are going , but nobody is going to link back, even the term "compost".

Hamishcampbell, to Bitcoin

The activism instance has shut down due to payment cancelled from lack of funds. We received no direct donations for this instance for the last year on or and funds were far beyond exorsted.

We would like to restart the instance based on a different codebase if donations could cover the ongoing costs of servers and hosting

Our culture is currently not strong anufe to support alt media hosting or production.

witchescauldron, to random

Been trying to work with people. They are unbelievably vile with no idea they are behaving badly.

This is a mess we should not put up with, ideas?

witchescauldron, to random

We need to stop just using agenda and projects as if they were native they are often not.

In general, they take grassroots/activist native process and then systematize them as friendly, and thus agenda.

We way too often in a lazy way repeat them as "native" and thus shift what is native.

More shit to compost, please don't keep making this mess, thanks.

Hamishcampbell, to random

20 years of selling us libertarian individualism to push aside collective support of the "revolutionary" which is when we last had left tech power.

For this 20 years we have had pushing as left tech, this is OBVIOUSLY a disaster we can't keep doing. Yes, let's not get into a prat fight, this is needed as a supplementary.

witchescauldron, to random
@witchescauldron@kolektiva.social avatar

We can't keep doing this tech crap. Composting is the path for parasites and the

Think positive projects outside mess making, need crew, focus and dev :)

is a good hashtag for this.

witchescauldron, to random
@witchescauldron@kolektiva.social avatar

Introducing OMN: A Trust-Based Project for Federated Networks

In the ever-expanding digital landscape, where information overload and spam are commonplace, there's a crucial need for a trust-based project that emphasizes human moderation and community cooperation. Welcome to OMN – a unique initiative that aims to leverage the power of human moderation to foster federated networks and genuine online communities.

The concept is simple: every piece of content, known as a "flow," goes through a trust-building process. When users create content, it's either trusted – indicating a consistent track record of quality contributions – or moderated when the content varies in quality. This dynamic approach ensures that the system scales effectively by encouraging users to build trust links with one another.

Without this human touch, a network's workload quickly becomes unmanageable, or it's overwhelmed by irrelevant or spammy content, rendering the sites useless. This core feature of OMN is designed to encourage the growth of human-scale federated trust communities.

To maintain a useful site, two key outcomes are possible: the creation of large, diverse communities with a broad spectrum of admins and moderators, or the establishment of smaller, tightly-knit trust groups focused on quality connections. Both outcomes are valuable and central to the essence of .

While automation might seem tempting, it risks creating countless middling-quality sites, leading to a signal-to-noise problem. In the end, this could undermine the entire network. OMN's philosophy is rooted in the idea that "less is more" – a deliberate move away from the of endlessly improving tools.

OMN addresses the challenge of managing spam and low-quality content by allowing them to flow into the network and then guiding them away from the quality areas of the network.

One unique feature of OMN is its organic growth model. New sites may need to be set up to allow new content to flow in, spreading the network wider and narrowing the focus. This leads to an ecosystem where base sites feed into middle sites, which in turn feed into top sites, creating a robust network interconnected by quality tags, subject feeds, and editorial articles.

Surprisingly, OMN inverts the traditional value pyramid: the top sites are easier to set up and manage but hard to add value to. The core of the project lies in the middle sites, where content is sifted and aggregated. The real value, however, remains at the base where content is created.

OMN operates on the principle that there is nothing entirely original in its approach – it draws inspiration from how plumbing, electrical grids, and even the neurons in our brains function. This embraces the concept of as a fundamental pillar of the project.

In the next step of the project, the focus is on stepping away from the dominant ideologies of the 20th century and building social technology based on a different vision of human nature. Unlike other projects, is all about simplicity and decentralization, emphasizing people and community control and social connections. It's an invitation to break free from the confines of the past and shape the future of online communities.

witchescauldron, to random
@witchescauldron@kolektiva.social avatar

A path out of the funding mess

The is an unspoken negative effect of traditional foundation funding agendas on grassroots projects. These grassroots projects often have different priorities and goals than traditional organizations, and the formal processes used by existing projects, such as decidim.org and loomio.org, may not be well-suited for them.

team aims to address this issue by focusing on empowering communities through decentralized decision-making processes. Their experience and track record make them well-suited to carry out this mission.

If successful, the project could have a significant impact on the way communities make decisions in the future. By empowering grassroots movements and organizations, it could help to ensure that their voices are heard and that their needs are addressed.

witchescauldron, to random
@witchescauldron@kolektiva.social avatar

Yes, well, we kinda fucked it up before came along. The of network from my memory comes to mind. Technology as individualism over technology as social, the blogging revolution and years of pointless projects are good examples. Then the puts shiny on their poison pill, and we all swallowed heaps of “social media” and here we are deep in the with a vernier of the on the edge

Hamishcampbell, to random

@krohne The is a real need for crew to build activist projects at the if you're interested.

Click the hashtags to find out more.

witchescauldron, to fediverse
@witchescauldron@kolektiva.social avatar

The problem we face on the is the "shouting into the void" that the brings with it. This is affecting all new social networks, the signal to noise is degrading everyone's experience. I think in part this is a failure of copying that we need to move past soon

Hamishcampbell, to UX

the has been a lot of clear communication on the sustainability. I think the tools for this are bad, this is a dev issue.

You can outreach this link to build suitability https://opencollective.com/open-media-network

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