Hamishcampbell, (edited ) to fediverse

The https://dwebcamp.org/videos/ crew look so out of touch with the and our reboot in general.

Hamishcampbell,

@bhaugen one thing i came away from this video https://dwebcamp.org/videos/meet-the-real-social-media-influencers/ was that everyone is building to fix the problems "within" capitalism, they are learning how to do change in the context of capitalism etc their thinking is bound, there movenmt is bound

witchescauldron, to fediverse

The undeclared war on is becoming "common sense" on the with the shift to this is back to the mess we were stepping away from with our reboot.

Hamishcampbell, to random

The are flooding in https://about.iftas.org/this is good and it's bad.... the problem is we have no "governance" to decide which and to push this.

witchescauldron, to fediverse

https://visionon.tv/w/3LVtzJ88PFhFej33tEM6Ds

For people interested in the "theory" behind #fediverse projects like #OGB this is a good video to understand our "common sense" mess #mainstreaming thinking pushes over us.

witchescauldron, to random

are always in part a reflection of the agenda, as are the I think we need to change the mainstream to bring change to these groups.

are paths to this change.

witchescauldron, to TwitterMigration

The pay conf is in not connected to it's a type thing from the crew - they came in with the pay mindset and are not going to move away from this ongoing. It's a culture shift, coming from ActivityPub

witchescauldron, to random

The (Open Media Network), is a decentralized network of media sites that share content and promote independent media. To provide an alternative to media by creating a network of interconnected sites that prioritize openness, collaboration, and decentralization.

The importance of grassroots community-driven media, where people and groups can create and share their own content. To challenge the dominance of media and promote a more equitable and just society.

Hamishcampbell, to random

Remember people have been and are still being vile in their interactions with the needed alternative. Grab a shoal and compost this mess, please.

Hamishcampbell, to random

Our crew/friends are increasingly pushing pointless prat fights over alternatives to defend their obvious worshipping of the for the last 40 years. This "common sense" is going to take time and add a lot of mess to change/challenge.

We need to compost this mess.

Hamishcampbell, to random

20 years of selling us libertarian individualism to push aside collective support of the "revolutionary" which is when we last had left tech power.

For this 20 years we have had pushing as left tech, this is OBVIOUSLY a disaster we can't keep doing. Yes, let's not get into a prat fight, this is needed as a supplementary.

Hamishcampbell,

Remember people have been and are still being vile in their interactions with the needed alternative. Grab a shoal and compost this mess, please.

Hamishcampbell, to random

When I call people insane, i actually mean this. Common sense is now the illness of 40 years of worshipping the , so they is little "sense" left.

This is a problem we need to work past urgently

Hamishcampbell, to random
witchescauldron, to random

We need to stop just using agenda and projects as if they were native they are often not.

In general, they take grassroots/activist native process and then systematize them as friendly, and thus agenda.

We way too often in a lazy way repeat them as "native" and thus shift what is native.

More shit to compost, please don't keep making this mess, thanks.

witchescauldron, to random

people are obviously vile in the era of , and our Alt history is mostly writern by

Thus, we have a hard time to step away from the current mess, we tend to simply create mess.

What's happening with the is an example of this.

Hamishcampbell, (edited ) to fediverse

The of the has dropped the quality and interestingness of content share by a lot over the last few months.

This is a issue we have not looked at yet.

witchescauldron,

@Hamishcampbell it's a mess, on the threads the grassroots is submerged by the overflowing echo chamber of voices. The signal to noise is shifting.

Hamishcampbell, to mastodon
shibacomputer, to fediverse
@shibacomputer@post.lurk.org avatar

In 2020, I published This is Fine: Optimism & emergency in the p2p network(https://newdesigncongress.org/en/pub/this-is-fine). It laid out a clear argument that the is irreparably vulnerable because of its p2p nature and political naivete:

"Anyone with administrator access to an Instance can read anything that travels through that Instance’s infrastructure – including direct messages. The level of risk correlates with the number of cross-Instance interactions between users. If users from different Instances communicate, an attacker need only compel one Instance to reveal the direct messages between all of the interacting accounts. [...] In a peer-to-peer network without encryption, there’s no structure, no agreed-upon governance, and absolutely no protection. Compromising or compelling an Instance or its staff means that all of network traffic is laid bare to its assailant. [...] The decentralised community seeks to antagonise a powerful status quo whilst making tradeoffs that do not acknowledge how societies directly threaten their communities."

Today, Kolektiva - a anti-colonial anarchist instance - announced an FBI raid of one of their admins, which included the seizure of an entire copy of the Kolektiva instance.

This is literally the kind of situation I warned about nearly three years ago.

https://kolektiva.social/@admin/110637031574056150

Hamishcampbell,

@shibacomputer @bob

This text reads like a vanguardist path, based on reading and narrow thinking. It's missing the paths that hold value in horizontal activist paths we are taking but, yes, getting lost on in our the growing and wide spread of current diversity projects.

What it does highlight is the need for social and political thinking is needed, the is value there.

Can you see any of this feedback?

Hamishcampbell, to fediverse

Our if you are wondering why I am documenting the devouring of this reboot, it is because next time we can maybe try and mediate our "libertarian cats" for a better outcome. We cannot just keep fucking up like this

witchescauldron, to random

This is what It's like talking to meany people about

Actually its most people in general, this is the outcome of 40 years of and , worshipping this has created a social mess and common sense insanity.

witchescauldron, to fediverse

This is interesting because it provides insights into the dynamics and challenges of the movement. It highlights the tension between platforms and grassroots efforts, showcasing the passion and dedication of communities working towards an open and decentralized web. The accidental nature of the reboot adds an element of serendipity to the story, emphasizing the power of culture and the resource constraints faced by technologies.

witchescauldron,

The recent shift towards a "libertarian cats" path and the potential consumption of the reboot raise important questions about the future of alternative platforms and the need for continued resistance against .

witchescauldron, to fediverse

was an "accidental" reboot, it exists because the turned up at the meeting did not find anything useful for themselves so left the “weirdos” to get on with building a aproch. The “weirdos” manage to hold things together long enough to get the standard through the open but burocratic process and pushed it out to the world.

witchescauldron,

Sadly the last few years we have fallen into the normal “libertarian cats” path, and it’s looking like this reboot will be devoured… not a BAD outcome as they are eating this project which will become a part of the needed shift in .

But it’s not an outcome meany of us who wonted, we are building real alts.

The needs composting rather than reforming :slight_smile:

witchescauldron, (edited ) to random

The event is lacking focus and energy from our "cats" so we will likely have a I talked to these guys during the last event, they are new 'native" from the that
bring the "normal" power politics with them.

An event that pushes liberal agendas is fine as a part of a balance.

Though we have our "native" libertarian cats so the balance will be a challenge that we need to work on

witchescauldron,

On this subject, I think we might be past stage 7 of the gathering http://hamishcampbell.com/2011/03/05/thoughts-on-alt-organising-from-2007/ it's looking like the wins by being absorbed into the by getting some of them taking a step to the

Then the next generation has to reboot this loop, what do people feel about this?

witchescauldron, to random

I find people to be actually mad and increasingly bad. When do we get more people pushing change challenge in these spaces, please?

Am increasingly seeing this as a culture of fear, or more real as a culture of fear pushed as power politics.

Hamishcampbell,

@witchescauldron Am thinking meany people will be confused and likely mix signal with noise on this subject.

Who are the bad people, the powerless pushing the on the or the powerful Burocrats worshipping the while protecting there thin careers in the

If you find yourself agenst the first and defending the second, then you are the problem.

This makes your behaver noise.

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