I definitely consume too much dystopian content to be a fair dystopian barometer, but the sheer amount of ads being pushed my way is starting to make me feel legitimately anxious. It feels like a techno-dystopia where all of the neat and artistic elements have been extracted and then ground into dust for our corporate overlords....
Perhaps the best description of The (TM) I've seen yet;
"... the centralized filters Lanier decries are purely an effort to recreate price-like signaling in a context — information in general, and digital networks in particular — where the money-based price system is systematically disfunctional. It may be right or wrongheaded; imperfect or perfect. But it is not collectivism."
"While it may be true that a large number of current websites and group projects contain more content aggregation (links) than original works (stuff), that may as well be a critique of the entirety of Western culture since post-modernism. I'm as tired as anyone of art and thought that exists entirely in the realm of context and reference — but you can't blame Wikipedia..."
#stupidindividualism is a constant poison. People treat all social thinking as personal criticism.
This is a constant #blocking and spreads mess just about ever were.
I think another good hashtag on this behaviour is #blinded this is in part self inflicted and a part a general social outcome of the last 40 years of #postmodernism and #neoliberalism which I use the hashtag #deathcult to express.
People are directly responsible for this mess making as we both of these ideologies are actually dead themselves now...
The tragedy of #postmodernism in politics is seeing it’s ideas truncated into empty slogans and lists of rules.
The concepts really are too complex to be explained via couple of youtube clips.
I think a rightful crique of ”wokeness” stems from some people who lack understanding how deep a scepticism of any narrative, INCLUDING YOUR OWN, is required to apply these ideas fruitfully.
Great for cutting-edge analysis, poor for populical populism. Everything a nail to this hammer = 🫣
"We also have knowledge of another superstition from that period: belief in what was termed the Book-Man. On some shelf in some hexagon, it was argued, there must exist a book that is the cipher and perfect compendium of all other books, and some librarian must have examined that book; this librarian is analogous to a god."...
I was at a lecture the other day, a special showing of Wes Anderson's The Royal Tenenbaums, and the speaker mentioned that Wes Anderson is seen as "postmodern"
He then defined "postmodern" briefly, trying not to get hung up on it, as "weird for the sake of weird"
(quoting Moe Szyslak from The Simpsons)
And since then I've been dwelling on it a little...
Now that discourse about "postmodernism" has kind of faded, can we get a better picture of what it is? Or was?
I have to say, I think we're still living in a time that's under a certain shadow, and "postmodernism" was the first attempt (a little clumsy) to give that shadow a name.
It's the shadow of feeling alienated from pretty much everything, the sense that the world we're participating in is no longer comprehensible, no longer subject to any kind of logic or accountability.
We are thinking creatures in an unthinkable world.
I think back when the word "postmodern" was coined, it was around the time when people realized they were becoming dependent on technology that they simply couldn't understand... technology like TV's and microwaves, that seemed more magical than mechanical.
Similar things had to happen to the other central pillars of Modernism... political power, economic patterns, etc. Everything was losing its clarity of outline.
@Hamishcampbell
I wonder if you might discuss a bit what #Postmodernism means and what its effects on society have been. My impression is it's basically, all our modern assumptions are bullshit, so we might as well make up our own truths. It seems to be a feature of both progressive activists and right wing populists. Am I close? I think that was me, calling bullshit on a lot of assumptions. But I'm coming to feel like I'm inching toward something else.
Bwahaha, anti-lgbt parents would make their kids miss out on the coolest plots!
You can just taste the #postmodernism in Nimona. But it’s not tasteless, underneath the #narrative#deconstruction lies a good old premodern tale of sly evil masquerading as good and wise, and how everyone gets fooled all too easily.
I have #CFS and #Bipolar which can make it hard to get out much so seeing so much of the world, so seeing all the wonderful posts here has been an absolute joy.
I'd like to discuss #Postmodernism with someone. I'm trying to figure out what I think about it. #InfiniteJest, #GravitysRainbow, #SlaughterhouseFive are among my favorite books, if that means anything.
A lot of these descriptions fit me:
"epistemological relativism, moral relativism, pluralism, irony, irreverence, and eclecticism." I think those are good traits, but I have a creeping sense that something is missing...
Maybe I am a #Postmodernist who is slowly inching toward something else?
Actually its most people in general, this is the outcome of 40 years of #neoliberalism and #postmodernism, worshipping this #deathcult has created a social mess and common sense insanity.
Most of the today's problems at their root have this old divide between #modernism and #postmodernism, this is worth looking back at to start to compost this mess.
A core tenet of good technologies is that we can reason about them. And a common pattern of abusers is that they act in ways that are inconsistent and unreasonable. That's why it's a giant red flag that all the AI hype these days is about systems that we can't even reason about. https://www.anildash.com/2023/06/08/ai-is-unreasonable/
In #modernism you have the 'sicences" social, political and natural, for what they were worth gave us firm places to build ourselves from. With #postmodernism you only have your personal feelings to build from. "The is no such thing as society, only individuals and there families" do you recognise the quote? This is the neoliberalism mess we have been building over the last 40 years.
The frequency and duration of ad breaks is beginning to make me feel like I’m in that black mirror episode where they had to pay to stop ads from constantly playing.
I definitely consume too much dystopian content to be a fair dystopian barometer, but the sheer amount of ads being pushed my way is starting to make me feel legitimately anxious. It feels like a techno-dystopia where all of the neat and artistic elements have been extracted and then ground into dust for our corporate overlords....
The Library of Babel (La bibliotecha de Babel) by Jorge Luis Borges - 1941 - free .pdf (sites.evergreen.edu)
"We also have knowledge of another superstition from that period: belief in what was termed the Book-Man. On some shelf in some hexagon, it was argued, there must exist a book that is the cipher and perfect compendium of all other books, and some librarian must have examined that book; this librarian is analogous to a god."...