rolle, (edited ) to internet
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

What other (centralized) social medias you are using? (even the slightest)

You can select multiple answers (not on Ivory in case it still has the bug where it picks the one you touch)

Boosts appreciated.

sivusta, to internet

Pitihän nyt sitten blogata tästä ronsuinstanssin (miten tämä kuulostaa niin matemaattiselta?) vaihdoksesta. Ja hyvä kysymys on nyt sitten se, että voiko tähän koko höskään luottaa.

https://sivusta.blogspot.com/2023/07/dontilla-vai-ilman.html

aral, (edited ) to Facebook
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Folks, the reason / / / Zuckerberg hasn’t launched in the isn’t because the EU is determined to protect your privacy, it’s because the EU is determined to protect The Single Market (peace be upon it) from anticompetitive behaviour. It’s because they’re using Instagram to launch Threads and sharing data between them (and not with EU startups that might want to use that data too). It’s , not . It’s markets, not people.

Meta officially launches Twitter rival Threads. 10 million have joined already (edition.cnn.com)

Facebook has tried to compete with Twitter in numerous ways over the years, including copying signature Twitter features such as hashtags and trending topics. But now Facebook’s parent company is taking perhaps its biggest swipe at Twitter yet.

m0bi13, to random Polish
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar

Za: @mastodonmigration

"WAŻNE. Polityka Threads polega na gromadzeniu i wykorzystywaniu danych osobowych użytkowników Fediverse bez ich wyraźnej zgody.

Teraz jest bardzo dobry moment na zapoznanie się z Warunkami użytkowania Threads (https://terms.threads.com/terms-of-use) i uzupełniającą politykę prywatności (https://help.instagram.com/515230437301944).

Zauważ, że śledząc użytkownika Threads lub odpowiadając na jego post, Meta twierdzi, że ma prawo do Twoich danych osobowych.

A co według nich zrobią z Twoimi danymi? Dostarczą ci "usługi biznesowe (w tym reklamy)"."

Źródło (w tym linki do dokumentów) [EN]:
https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/111585528118111249

atomicpoet, (edited ) to threads
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org avatar

De-federating does NOT prevent from accessing your public feed.

This is demonstrably false. Almost all servers that de-federate Threads still broadcast the RSS feed of your posts. This is available to everyone, even servers that are de-federated from yours.

If you don’t believe me, test this out for yourself. Append “.rss” to the end of your profile URL (exampleserver.com/@username.rss), and see what happens.

Hell, if I wanted to build a search engine for the Fediverse and not use ActivityPub, I could use RSS instead and I could index most of the Fediverse – whether you opt into it or not.

Let’s stop spreading the myth that de-federation by itself prevents Threads from accessing your public feed.

@fediversenews

mastodonmigration, (edited ) to threads
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

is not federating with . Not anytime soon, maybe not ever.

In case you missed the inside information from the Verge's Alex Heath: "Re: ActivityPub integration, it's still a priority for Threads but a "long" way out." https://mastodon.social/@alexeheath/110713788758597963

This whole federating with Threads thing has never made any sense and now we see it is very likely they have just been playing us the whole time. Let's stop falling for this nonsense and get back to building great open social media.

davidrevoy, to Futurology
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org avatar

Meta: OH, COME ON. ISN'T THAT BETTER NOW?


dansup, (edited ) to fediverse
@dansup@mastodon.social avatar

Meta aka Instagram is working on a Twitter competitor that is rumored to be ActivityPub compatible.

If you run a fediverse instance (Mastodon, Pixelfed, Calckey and others), would you ban a Meta instance?

Boosts appreciated 👍 #fediverse #barcelona #activityPub #meta

aral, (edited ) to internet
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Spam alert: thegx.ca/forum

Dear server admins,

If you see an account named thegx.ca/forum (thegx@…) pop up on your servers please suspend it. Some bastard has been setting up spam accounts all over. I’ve lost count of how many I’ve blocked and it’s getting annoying.

Some_Emo_Chick, to tech
@Some_Emo_Chick@mastodon.social avatar

This might help explain the spectacular launch of Threads

w7voa, to twitter
@w7voa@journa.host avatar
ophiocephalic, to FediPact

Interesting new details have emerged concerning planned machinations for Meta's takeover of the fediverse. The information was revealed at a "data dialogue" in San Francisco on the subject of "Meta’s Threads Interoperating in the Fediverse".

An account at this blog post: https://reb00ted.org/tech/20231208-meta-threads-data-dialogue/

And more info in this Masto thread: https://mastodon.cloud/@joemcl/111566221062518491

It seems that the plan is to gradually roll federation out in stages over the next year. The most telling reveal is in the screenshotted toot by Meta advocate Evan:

"Also, as far as I could tell, the most important use case for them is that a creator could move from Threads to their own server, even if they get de-platformed. I think the major motivator here is Mark Zuckerberg having to go testify in front of Congress twice a year or whatever, and getting grilled by conservative Congresspeople about de-platforming. Being able to say, you can get kicked off Threads but keep your followers, is a big win in this situation."

If correct, the impression here is that Meta is interested in ActivityPub's account portability, so they can offload problematic fascists to the fediverse without too much disgruntlement. They see the fedi as a dumping ground into which they can externalize toxic users without having to either moderate them on their own server, or provoke them by wiping out their social graph.

In Zuckerberg's scheme, our community is to become a landfill for fascism.

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Ya'll do realize you can customize what you can/can't see on kbin/lemmy, and your experience is about about how you make it right?

I've just seen a lot of post recently complaining what they see on their front pages such as news, politics, endless memes, etc. But you do know if any of those subs bother you or seem excessive, you can filter the subs so that they don't appear on your front page anymore. Filter memes and 196, and about 70 percent of the memes...

atomicpoet, to Futurology

I just had a look at 's recent press release about , and something caught my attention right away.

For the very first time, they're acknowledging another platform alongside . Specifically, they're highlighting that can now connect through .

Now, you know Meta's PR department doesn't say things by accident. So here's why this is a big deal. Last time I checked, WordPress powers a whopping 43% of the Internet. Yeah, you heard that right! If you visit a website, there's a good chance it's using WordPress as its CMS.

Now, if even a fraction of those WordPress sites start federating, it could have a huge impact on the network effect of the Fediverse. Of course, Meta isn't oblivious to this. I've been talking about the potential of WordPress and ActivityPub for quite some time now.

But if you're particularly observant, you might also notice that they mention . We've known for a while that Tumblr is likely to integrate ActivityPub into their platform.

But here's an interesting tidbit: Did you know that one company, Automattic, not only owns Tumblr but is also the driving force behind WordPress?

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but once again, PR departments don't just drop hints randomly. I have a strong feeling that Meta has been having some high-level discussions with Automattic about the future of ActivityPub. It wouldn't surprise me if Meta has some insights into Automattic's upcoming plans for the Fediverse.

https://about.fb.com/news/2023/07/introducing-threads-new-app-text-sharing/

@fediversenews

mastodonmigration, to internet
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

What if somehow starts pumping ads and promoted content into the ?

The latest "hot-takes" article on (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/fear-loathing-and-excitement-as-threads-adopts-open-standard-used-by-mastodon/) suggests that Meta is still working out some 'small details', like:

  1. Account migration
  2. What Threads content, "including, potentially, the role of ads" will be broadcast out into the Fediverse
  3. How Fediverse users will be able to see or interact with Threads

Can all instances at least commit that pushing ads at us is a step too far?

atomicpoet, to internet

Yet another question people are asking me: "How can I, a common person, help hasten the demise of #Meta through #ActivityPub?"

Again, I want to re-emphasize this. #Fediblock is not an all-purpose tool. It's useful as a hammer. But in this scenario, we don't just need a hammer. We need drills, pliers, saws, and blowtorches.

That said, we must protect communities that choose to defederate from Meta. Which means that if those servers don't want to receive messages from any Meta-owned services, we must not only be respectful of that, we should make damn sure that those servers are quarantined from Meta. So much of the success of fighting Meta will require safe spaces from Meta.

The next thing we need is lots and lots of nodes. Currently, we only have ~25,000 nodes on the Fediverse but we need more. Preferably, these nodes should be small, agile, and well-moderated. If you have the finances and/or skill to run a node, it's important that you do so. To compete with Meta, we need to build scale -- and the easiest way to build scale is by adding more nodes to the Fediverse.

What will also be key is lobby servers. These will be servers specifically set up for migrants from Meta-owned services to help onboard them towards the rest of the Fediverse. To run such a lobby server, they need to be welcoming, moderated well, and free of the elitists and gatekeepers that poison so much of the Fediverse currently.

How to get people from Meta to try out the rest of the Fediverse? We need people willing to be ambassadors on #P92 who are ready and willing to evangelize the rest of the Fediverse. Folks like @tchambers are very good at this on Twitter, and I have no doubt that we can do the same with P92. Except this time we'll have the benefit of federation already happening 😉

Now if there's one thing I've learned about the growth of the Fediverse it's that bad corporate decisions pay dividends. We've already experienced waves of migration from Tumblr, Twitter, and Reddit. And I have no doubt that it's only a matter of time before Meta makes another corporate mistake -- as they tend to do.

In which case, we need to strike fast. When another Cambridge Analytica happens, we need to remind everyone on Meta about the lobby servers that are on standby, and ready to take them on. Unlike previous migrations, let's not be unprepared for this. Let's be especially prepared since Meta plans to join the Fediverse.

Finally, we need more devs. Specifically, we need devs willing to build innovative server and client software that takes aim at Meta. And to do that, we need to support the devs that currently exist -- show evergreen devs pondering whether they should invest here that we, as a community, are appreciative of our current devs.

If you like #Mastodon, #Calckey, #Kbin, #Friendica, etc., it's important that you open up your hearts as well as your wallets and fund the next stage of Fediverse development.

This will take a lot of work. But if you want to fight Meta, challenge their dominance of social media, this is what must be done.

Personally, I'm hyped about the future of the Fediverse -- regardless of whether Meta eventually lives to tell the tale.

tux, to Futurology German

Hi @helpers gerade die aktuelle Diskussion bzgl. dem Fedi-Beitritt von zeigt meiner Meinung nach recht deutlich, wie wichtig es wäre, dass es ein Instanzen-Block auf Userebene geben würde. Also das nicht der Admin eine Instanz blockt (was ja jetzt schon machbar ist), sondern der User selber für sich.
Ist hierzu bei was angedacht? Wäre das technisch möglich?

mastodonmigration, (edited ) to Futurology
@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online avatar

Let's try these questions (https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/110617171265446738) about instance blocking again this way...

M = Meta
A = Allows Meta (does not block)
B = Blocks Meta

  1. A boosts B's post. Can M see B's post?
  2. A replies to B's post. Can M see B's post? A's reply?
  3. A boosts M's post. Can B see M's post?
  4. A replies to M's post. Can B see M's post? A's reply?

EDIT: Summary answers to these questions here: https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/110622589366603128

ophiocephalic, to FediPact

The notes and accounts from the FediForum in late September suggest that some of "the people who move the fediverse forward", as the conference promotes itself as platforming, are also acutely interested in moving forward the agenda of Meta.

The forum's notes tell the tale. Though a number of topics, including many of genuine benefit, were touched upon, digging through the sessions turns up a path of breadcrumbs that leads straight back to Palo Alto.

https://fediforum.org/2023-09/

#FreeFediverse #FediPact #DefederateMeta #Meta #Facebook #Threads #FediForum ...and no more

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A case for preemptively defederating with Threads

With Meta beginning to test federation, there's a lot of discussion as to whether we should preemptively defederate with Threads. I made a post about the question, and it seems that opinions differ a lot among people on Kbin. There were a lot of arguments for and against regarding ads, privacy, and content quality, but I don't...

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