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maegul

@maegul@hachyderm.io

A little bit of computing and a little bit of neuroscience.

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maegul, to fediverse
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This happened quickly…Lemmy is now the second biggest platform next to mastodon!?!

https://fedidb.org/software

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maegul, (edited ) to fediverse
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So poking around fedidb.org, I thought I'd do some back-of-napkin analysis (ie procrastination).

  • 50% of users are on the largest 20 instances
  • ~50% of MAU are on the largest 28
  • 77% users are on instances with >10k users (largest 130)
  • 73% MAUs on >10k instances
  • Of largest 20 instances, user growth/mnth (trend over prev 3mnths) is ~1-2% ... with 2 major outliers:

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maegul, to fediversenews
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Graphs of the sizes of fediverse instances, how common they are, and where the most people are! 🧵

Data pulled from https://instances.social/ (by @TheKinrar) and excludes pawoo and baraag as they're heavily blocked for good reasons (it seems)

Breaking down instances by the number of users into bins (that are quasi human friendly logarithmic), we see that the majority (55%) have 2-50 users, ~33% have 1 user, and almost all instances have less than 5,000 users.

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maegul, to fediversenews
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So, I think I've dug as deeply into the drama as I need to, and settled on some conclusions.

  • Most basically, the best insights came from seeing conversations on another platform: discord.

Admins from both sides were talking. And as it's a chat platform, the engagement and conversation was clearly more direct, free, expressive and clarifying.

If the fediverse wants to be the new internet, seriously, it needs to growup and move on from just microblogging.

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maegul, to bluesky
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People are actually on BlueSky

There's now a decent measurement of user numbers (https://bskycharts.edavis.dev/edavis.dev/bskycharts.edavis.dev/bsky_users_total.html) ...

They've got about 1.6M MAUs ...
& 0.8M Weekly unique users & 0.340M Daily.

That's not nothing!

Roughly double mastodon and 60% more than the whole fediverse (by MAUs, see fedidb.org).

Bluesky is quite "international" with large Japanese and Brazilian popltns, and there's real attrition happening IMO.

Still, let the protocol wars begin I suppose?

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maegul, to politics
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Not knowing US constitutional law, it seems to me the SCOTUS decision might mean that the Dems missed an opportunity when they had the house

That it’s a federal matter seems legally predictable/natural to me, and that it then falls to congress to enforce then also seems natural.

What am I missing on that?

Otherwise, what would the Dems have had to lose by passing an act when they had the house? The 14th was right there.


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maegul, to fediverse
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If there isn’t much cross-platform engagement between the and , and Reddit migrants leave because of insufficient activity … is this a failure of sorts of the ?

I’m leaning yes. If cross-platform activity is essentially irrelevant but more of a minor awkward perk at times then the fediverse doesn’t exist (yet) at the level of being a social media platform or space.

Instead, it’s a tool for FOSS platforms to scale through decentralisation.

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maegul, (edited ) to mastodon
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Reflecting on the firefish/calckey "moment"

which was about a year ago now, I can't help but suspect it was a small event with wider implications on the dominance of in the

I think it was the last chance to direct the twitter migration energy into discovering new/different fedi platforms.

And it was blown, with alt-social in a weird steady/waiting state that's smaller I suspect, than what many hoped for.

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cntd: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/112358202238795371

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maegul, (edited ) to ghost
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I think the and federations pose interesting questions about what platforms can and should be.

Do we actually want blogs and feeds of blogs folded into a mastodon/microblog social feed?

Do we want to read and comment on blogs on mastodon?

Do we want all the diversity of the fediverse fed into a single platform's UI and hope that it works well?

Are we worried that some choices by our platform or instance admin might hinder this process?

I'm rather skeptical.

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maegul, to fediversenews
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The most revealing aspect of the drama has been the truly feudal nature of the fediverse / feudalverse.

A world of conflict was occurring between admins/feudal lords mostly unknown to instance users/subjects … until defederations and admin resignations occur … at which point the users have to blindly work out what’s happened and how it affects them and which instances they’re now blind to.

Just like monarchs declaring war against each other.
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maegul, to bluesky
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Been casually poking around the BlueSky/ATProto docs and blogs.

I think I’m now forced to wonder why they won’t “win” against mastodon and in turn ActivityPub.

Genuinely interested in what more qualified people have to say on this.

It feels like general criticisms of masto/Fedi have answers in their system and they’re well positioned for growth.

It feels like if they win the hearts of developers and big accnts, and scale well, it could be “over” quite quickly??

maegul, (edited ) to stackoverflow
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The fediverse won’t succeed at putting up a substitute and that’s a problem?

Just an impression: All the pieces seem to be there. But what’s required is a team, with devs, PMs and coordinators, dedicated to making a particular place in the .

That’s resources and decently sized financial and organisational demands, especially to get a critical mass of users.

Is the fediverse up to that challenge? If not, is it an issue worth addressing?

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maegul, to random
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Why do minor chords "sound sad" ... maybe an interesting question is why does being sad feel like a minor chord?

maegul, to fediverse
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Is decentralised federated social media over engineered?

Can't get this brain fart out of my head.

What would the simplest, FOSS, alternative look like and would it be worth it?

Quick thoughts:

  • FOSS platforms intended to be big single servers, but dedicated to ...
  • Shared/Single Sign On
  • Easy cross posting
  • Enabling and building universal Multi-platform clients.
  • Unlike email, supporting small servers

No duplication/federation/protocol required, just software.


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maegul, to VintageOSes
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Being down about 's turn toward nostalgia this season, I can't help but fucking miss

Seriously, it's not good Trek to do a hard prequel of a 60 year old show. The appeal of SNW was to do a hard and modern fork.

Now, as the show goes on, five great female characters (Una, La'an, Ortegas, Chapel, Uhura) are going to be pushed out by five male characters from 60 years ago, rebooted only 10 yrs ago. All while normie trek fans eat it up.

maegul, to fediverse
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gets a (new) search engine

It already had search (with some rough edges), but people are already making their own to fill specific needs ... chiefly it seems to replace the Google site: reddit.com search facility.

See ...

https://lemmy.world/post/963301

https://www.search-lemmy.com/

Interesting to see a platform culture completely embrace being open and public.

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maegul, to FediPact
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The Fedipact statistics are interesting

7% of active users committed to - https://fedidb.org/current-events/anti-meta-fedi-pact

  • How representative of the user base is this, or are admins gatekeeping here? A large survey would be good to clear that up.

  • EG, Mastodon, relative to its userbase, seems the most "Meta friendly" with only 57% of fedipact users (but ~80% all users)

  • Fractal of niche-dom? Fedi ~1% of social media, fedi-pact ~ 10% of fedi. So anti-meta-fediverse ~0.1%?

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maegul, to fediverse
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Decent Decentralisation

https://berjon.com/decent-imaginaries/

Good counter to the focus on protocols.

> a protocol needs to achieve two things: it needs to prevent the accumulation of power imbalances between parties … and it needs to make it easy for users to cooperate in building the the rules they want for how the protocol's operation affects them … the success of decentralisation and … of a democratic digital world rides not only on liberation but also on organising.

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maegul, to random
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Think I’ve turned a corner on the whole Fedi thing, and probably settled into the stable part of my hype curve.

I was never a social media person/fan, so this was an interesting experiment/curiosity for me.

Overall, generally feel let down. I presumed there was more to the fedi, but its main/only achievement so far is to be OSS. As a user that doesn’t count for much. The rest is friction, software, tribalism and the same ol social media stuff.

maegul, to fediverse
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So r/startrek opened their subreddit back up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/14aifzm/rstartrek_reddit_and_the_future/

But they’re still committed to their instance too. Interesting experiment, running dual communities on both sides.

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maegul, (edited ) to random
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So it looks like home.social is going to shut down this year (see announcement below).

That’s a 36k user instance. Along with mastodon.lol recently, are mid-sized instances feeling the strain? Are they naturally unsustainable, at least without the right infrastructure.

I’m betting single admin mid-sized instances are unsustainable.

could easily have struggled to survive recently if it weren’t for its co-op org.

https://home.social/@quadrivial/110353026350810469 (@quadrivial)

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maegul, to fediverse
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One of the interesting things I've seen on the fediverse:

blahaj.zone run both a and instance under the same domain/community. (I learnt this by running into @ada on lemmy, who is also @ada on calckey)

See:
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/
https://blahaj.zone/

I don't know how effective it is in practice, but it sure seems like a great way to foster more diversity and richness in the fediverse experience, especially if some integrations can be built, like mutual ids.

maegul, (edited ) to fediverse
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settles on its big central instance: lemmy.world () run by @ruud

Its numbers are now big enough to be counted amongst the top 5-10 masto instances! (https://fedidb.org/network/instance/lemmy.world) as become the “second platform” by size.

Apart from running it well and keeping up to date (recent update seems to have gone well, with a nice example of instances and admins helping each other!?), some redditers seek the big instances?? Curious how communities will adapt.

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maegul, (edited ) to fediversenews
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Looked up someone who used to be on here (@vicki, basically stopped posting in March) and went back to their Twitter, and found this exchange. Don’t know how representative it is, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is for a number of “lost” fediverse users. I know vicki tried for a while. Don’t really know how I feel about this.

Full Twitter thread if you’re interested: https://twitter.com/vboykis/status/1651236034628186113

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maegul, to test
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Hello kbin (and lemmy?), from mastodon?

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