Plumbing

samuraiplumber,
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My favorite faucet ever. Very 'Buck Rogers' design.

Theblueone,
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@samuraiplumber [Kohler Ad]

"We would like you to design a..."

"House around this, we know."

"...a spacecraft around this."

samuraiplumber,
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@Theblueone
Very cool. I didn't think it was a Gerber.

paul,
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Weird issue. In warm weather, our toilet and drains sound hollow, gurgles, etc, when flushing or draining, like when the tub is drained. In the cold months, it is fine. Last year we had the system snaked 100%. No clogs–been an issue since we bought house in 2019.

I am thinking the warm weather, wind, etc is causing negative air pressure through the main roof plumbing vent

What does the think? Any solutions?

CheapPontoon,
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@paul
Oops! Been so long since I used them I forgot what they were called!

Studor vents. (Not Kaiser). Also called one-way Air Admittance Valve vents.

Anyway, they helped me figure out a problem on my house about 20 years ago.

paul,
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@CheapPontoon

I thought that is what you meant. We installed those on every appliance (Shower/tub, kitchen &bathroom sink, &washer drain)

At one point, each was sealed with one opened. We went down the line seeing if we could isolate the problem.

The bathroom &kitchen plumbing are all new completely, tied into the main drainpipe and vent. The issue occurred before and after.

It puzzles plumbers, too. We did everything. Raised the stack, installed these, ran the snake, checked drain slope.

esmichelson,
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Dear Friends,

A late season freeze warning for overnight tonight. Protect your tender by bringing them inside or covering them overnight. Outdoor is subject to .

Full link:
https://member.everbridge.net/index/892807736728110#/event

moira,
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"See, the problem here is that you know what you're doing. Most customers don't."

  • the plumber rep, after coming back to tell me the equipment is fine, it's the brochure they gave me that is in fact wrong

(also, he told me that the Bradford-White local sales rep has been trying to get corporate to fix it for like three years)

moira,
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I want to stress: the brochure is materially wrong on page 1, in an electrically meaningful way.

Page 2 contradicts page 1 and they did not give me page 2, and more importantly, page 2 wouldn't fix what's wrong on page 1, it would just muddle the matter further.

Until the company confirms for you that page 2 is correct, and page 1 is just wrong but corporate still won't fix it.

(this helps no one including very specifically them and why they won't fix it i can't tell you - page 1 says the unit is wired for 277V single-phase and that's the only allowed voltage, when it's it's actually flex voltage all the way down to 208V as per page 2 - but there we are.)

ai6yr,

Drat. Kitchen sink has a leak now. I wonder if it's because they loosed everything up but did not remove it. Think I'll fix this one myself, because:
A. doesn't leak unless you fill the non-disposal side of the sink
B. It's just one seal (tightened the P-trap and no issues there now)
C. The plumber charges more per hour than my own hourly rate writing software (!).
D. I will learn plumbing just to avoid the annoyance of dealing with caustic/flakey/expensive plumbers, in this case (easy to avoid this leak - not use that sink until it's fixed). Non-pressurized side of the plumbing system.

nickzoic,
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@ai6yr sometimes if you alter one thing all the other things are now under a bit of tension and don't seal right, so what sometimes helps is to undo all the connectors, give the whole thing a wiggle about and then tighten each connector a bit at a time so that they're all kind of even as they tighten up.

ChuckMcManis,
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@ai6yr
Surgeon has a sink that leaks and calls the plumber, the plumber crawls under the cabinet and fixes it in 15 minutes and charges him $500. The surgeon says, "Gee, I'm a surgeon and even I don't make $2000/hr." and the plumber responds, "Yeah, I didn't make $2000/hr as a surgeon either."

ai6yr,

Dishwasher detour! My rather unconventional attempt.to fix dishwasher drainage issues. Air gap is on right, but entry to disposal is on left. The prior install was too tight, so the tube would kink. Put in a longer line which takes a long non-kink detour around the bottom of the sink. I am sure a plumber is crying somewhere.

tomjennings,
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@ai6yr

I just (month ago) fixed a drainage issue with our disposal; water coming out the air vent when the dishwasher drained.

The issue was the excess length of the drop from the air gap to the disposal drain; it looped down then back up. I tend to want to leave slack for usually good reasons.

Here, the loop, drop them back up, causes enough back flow resistance to create a small head, up at the gap.

See if having the line from air gap to drain be a single, simple drop fixes it.

ai6yr,

@tomjennings Yeah, hoping the excess length here won't be a different issue. I think the correct fix is to have the disposal entry on the right, not left, or the air gap on the left, not right... but that is not an option with the sink nor disposal currently installed (as far as I know).

ai6yr,

Orangeburg pipe disaster down the street from where I am staying. Aka

ai6yr,

Orangeburg Sewer Piping is a HUGE problem nationwide, as it fails catastrophically. Plus it is made with asbestos (doh).

"The generic name for this type of pipe is “bituminous fiber pipe.” The pipe is made of a combination of cellulose and asbestos fibers impregnated with a bituminous (coal tar) compound. Bituminous fiber pipe was manufactured with either a homogenous wall or a multiple-ply laminated wall. The ends of the pipe were tapered and fitted together using a butt joint."

https://www.a2gov.org/departments/build-rent-inspect/building/Documents/InfoSheets/Orangeburg_Piping_Information.pdf

colo_lee,
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@ai6yr We would have had to do it anyway eventually, but it was a total blowout in one of the Orangeburg inputs to the septic that led to a (very costly) total septic replacement and subsequent re-landscaping ...

And the county says half our groundwater pollution is from failing septic systems. It was definitely time for ours to be replaced. Although I would have preferred to pick the timing rather than discovering sewage in the yard.

ai6yr,

The "Oh c**p" moment when you realize your plumbing repair is "do or die", i.e. it's got to be fixed or you have no water.

jlamoree,
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@ai6yr I’ve had to work on condos with six units sharing a water main. Replacing a shower valve was very stressful.

ai6yr, (edited )

@jlamoree Oof. Well, I did learn I should have shelled out for a shower valve which can be closed off with a screwdriver.

craig_groeschel,
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IDK the proper forum to ask this, but I'm replacing the underground water line to my house, with local-code-compliant 1" PEX, and I'm thinking of running it in 2" sch 40 PVC, like conduit, so whenever it fails, there's less digging and gnashing of teeth required.
Do people do this, or will it make the inspector go WTF?
Pipe is about 18" deep or less. It does feeeze here, but not often and usually not for long.
No comments on the PEX please, just the conduit idea.

ai6yr,

Well, no witty political commentary from me. You can just look at my new tub drain.

joycebell,
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@ai6yr SOTD instead of SOTU. 😄

cookiesinheaven,
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masukomi, (edited )
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This hex nut shaped thing was on the end of this quarter inch propane adapter. Inside of it was the strange double cone thing.

I didn’t know there was anything inside of it when I picked it up so the little brass double cone thing fell out. The sides are not the same size and I have no idea which way it’s supposed to point but it feels like it’s probably important to not get it wrong.

[edit: a friend told me what it was. details in 🧵]

masukomi,
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Update: it appears to be 0.098 of an inch on one side and 0.0955 of an inch on the other side. So I think it is supposed to be considered the same size.

Sorry two people reading this who use sane measurement systems. The only gauge at hand was imperial.

masukomi,
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apparently it's a "compression ferrule" and you use it like this.

TIL

definitely easier than flaring the pipe.

ai6yr,

Removed loose toilet. Looks at install job.What bozo installed this thing?!?! (OH WAIT, that would be me.) 🤔

ai6yr,
  • on the plus side, after watching a dozen YouTube videos, I can do this. I did the original install before YouTube was a thing, and no handy instructional videos. Also, SCREW DOWN YOUR TOILET RING, past me!!!
phpete,
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@ai6yr this is why I have a love/hate relationship with going back over anything I've done around the house.

I've decided it means we're awesome because we keep learning.

Yup.

Doctor Who Bright Side GIF

ai6yr,

Something this old and everything else attached of similar era makes plumbers grumpy! Lesson so far on this disaster is to plan on refreshing plumbing more frequently. That was not in the "becoming a homeowner" brochures, LOL.

mattblaze,
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@ai6yr The first surprising lesson of homeownership is that water, something you've previously thought of as an essential fuel for life itself, is an asshole.

kdriscoll,
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@mattblaze @ai6yr indoor plumbing was a mistake

KatyElphinstone,
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HELP! Outdoor electric, internet, & water... to a cabin 20 metres from house.

For the log cabin in my friend's garden, she needs to do cabling (internet, electric, water).

We just aren't sure what cables to get, or considerations like how deep the trench needs to be, & if the cables are going to need a sturdy tube to run through, etc.

Can anyone give us advice on any or all of this? :ablobthinkingeyes:

Very grateful for help/reposts.

johne,
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@KatyElphinstone there is outdoor rated ethernet cable. that mostly has an outer jacket that can handle UV exposure. i bought that as i also installed several secuity cameras. another kind of ethernet is rated for direct burial. It has a silicone grease under the jacket to keep water out. btw, these all will have solid strands of wire. they’re not meant to use where they’ll be moved around much.

johne,
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@KatyElphinstone anyway, i already had lots of muti-standed cable for indoor use and didnt want to buy two other types so ran my line in pvc. also that’s better protected if i dig in the same spot in the future.

ai6yr,

Aha, FLIR says the drywallers likely hit a pipe behind this wall. Reading cold on this stud. On the other side of the wall is a shower stall and supply.

WiredForFlight,
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@ai6yr what FLIR did you get?

ai6yr,

@WiredForFlight TG165X. Handheld, which is useful. The Android ones are cheaper, higher resolution, but get one with USBC and open source software

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