@reiver seems in keeping with the vibe that I’ve picked up on since the Reddit migration: they’re relatively much more openly critical of the whole decentralisation thing and much more embracing of “big public squares” all while still valuing FOSS and “freedom”.
Otherwise, I think lemmy/kbin growth stopped at an awkward point for a Reddit alternative, that will bleed users over time.
I suspect a worthwhile project now for the Fedi at large would be to bridge masto with lemmy/kbin better.
Yea ... it makes a lot of sense, we're all people writing plain-text posts to each other, there's no reason for us to not talk to each other.
Beyond that, there's a good chance masto users would benefit from being able to use and engage with communities/groups in a meaningful way, where hashtags have problems and aren't for everyone.
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> masto users would benefit from being able to use and engage with communities/groups in a meaningful way
Agreed. But federated groups are challenging for a whole bunch of reasons. For a start, there are different ways of conceptualising and implementing grouping, and folks are only just starting to explore these. It would really help if there were some high-level docs laying all the possible group types, and detailed docs of all the existing group implementation.
AFAIK, Mastodon users cannot create a new top-level post on Lemmy. (Don't know if Kbin supports this or not.)
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The user-experience around groups from a number of the Mastodon apps (maybe all of them) is poor. It is just a sea on individual posts. The comments are at the same level as the top-level posts, and the threading isn't ideal.
The view mastodon provides of groups is the main problem, absolutely. Threading is coming to masto though. And I suspect some a.gup.pe style bots could help with the feed problems (follow a bot just for top-level posts, and another for top-level plus comments, with the second ensuring comments get federated over).
@reiver Don't know how long ago it was implemented, but it's been a while.
I've seen a few people persistently do it from mastodon, and I try to guide them on the best way to do it whenever I can. There's someone, eg, who posts their star trek reviews from masto to the lemmy star trek community.
It actually works quite well and is the one working mechanism for bringing the two places together right now.
Masto users can also follow individual lemmy users and that works well too.
Get reply with link to the (new) bot for that community
Follow that bot, get all top-level posts boosted
Behind scenes, a second bot follows the whole community so that comments/replies get federated to the instance and are viewable by any user.
For the federation of replies to work, the bots would have to be local to the instance. There'd still be value without that. Masto users could still reply, eg.
Otherwise, I imagine it would be reasonable to expect something to this effect could be implemented directly within mastodon. Somewhat similar to the way replies do not appear in your feed unless you're following both the author of the reply and the people it's a reply to, all while such replies are still federated (provided they're visible by the instance).
Generally, separating tiers of posts seems a worthwhile generic process/feature.
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