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    zxm,

    @cliffwade i do have an android phone but my main phone is a nokia 3310. it's indestructible (dropped a lot), lasts 3+ days on a six year old battery and can be used one handed(i walk with a cane). does ereader, games, mp3s, mp4s, notes, spreadsheets and is a much more comfy phone to make calls on as it's smaller and less fragile.

    nokia 3310 playing sudoku game
    mini spreadsheet run on a nokia 3310 showing 3 columns of a shopping list
    nokia 3310 playing media file of tv show yes minister

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    @zxm

    WHOA! HOW are you doing all that on an old bar phone?

    Are those Java Mobile apps?
    Videos, too?!? 🤯

    P.S., I'm almost tempted to get one, but 3G is very much dead in the U.S.

    @cliffwade

    zxm,

    @RL_Dane @cliffwade java apps.can be found online. quite limited but work well enough.
    albite for ereader
    gbjotpad for notes
    microcalc for spreadsheets
    jmirc for irc
    mobile zx for zx spectrum emulator
    jmec64 for c64 emulator
    skb for sokoban game
    diggerme for digdug
    gauntlet fkyumr for gauntlet clone
    80s pinball
    1943
    zork
    snake
    tiledrop - tetris clone
    asteroids - asteroids clone
    5ud0ku - sodoku clone
    boggle - boggle clone
    solytare - solitare game

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    @zxm

    That's super cool.

    There's a Java Mobile loader for Android, and I've enjoyed playing some Java games here and there.

    @cliffwade

    zxm,

    @RL_Dane @cliffwade https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-8210-4g-review-classic-reboot-with-a-twist/ seems to be a more up to date 4g variant. worse camera though sadly. the 3310 has a 2mp which is suprisingly useful.

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  • RL_Dane,
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    @cliffwade

    Here's how I get my Googley fix, yet stay private:

    • I'm typing on GBoard now, but it's firewalled off from the internet
    • I use the Gmaps WV app to find places, then Magic Earth to navigate. Push comes to shove, I use the real Gmaps app in a work profile, not logged in.
    • I use K-9 mail to access all my Gmail. Gmail on the web is available, too
    • I use RCX to access my Google Drive, but it is painfully slow.

    ...

    RL_Dane,
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    ...

    I could optionally log in to my Google account on my work profile (which is inactive most of the time), but that means that ALL Google apps on that profile know who I am.

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  • RL_Dane,
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    @cliffwade

    You could still use the same Google apps on a degoogled ROM and enjoy 90% of the functionality you have now*, but yes, sidestepping all of their little hooks does take some effort.

    *And still derive some benefit from having a degoogled ROM

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  • RL_Dane,
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    @cliffwade

    It has a lot of cool security features, but it's a little overkill for me.

    If I understood the guts of Android better, I might be able to make an informed opinion on whether or not their sandboxing makes it safe enough to run full Google apps and services, but for now, I'll mitigate by mostly not using Gapps (on Calyx).

    I also prefer using MicroG to actual google services, sandboxed or no.

    jim12957,

    @cliffwade My wife and I have been using Android since 2010 (Froyo), mainly because we like the freedom it offers (compared to the 'walled garden' of Apple), both in software and hardware.

    Install it on pretty much anything, root it, hack it, customize it to ones hearts content, make it ones own.

    Apple reminds us too much of services like Compuserve, back in the day.

    A walled garden that it cost an obscene about of $$$ to access that, via other means, was virtually free.

    Aside: Sigh ... A small part of my old nerds heart misses dial-up BBSs.

    P.S. We won't talk about the 'old phone' drawer with, amongst many others, an HTC G1 in it. 😁

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    @jim12957

    If you look around, there are some BBSes you can access today via TELNET, especially if you use a BBS-oriented telnet client like SyncTerm (which has full ANSI color support, a DOS font, and even support for throttling your connection to a set baudrate).

    @cliffwade

    jhwgh1968,
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    @cliffwade I'm the last user of a flip phone

    I believe what it runs is called KaiOS. I have not tried hacking it (yet)

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    @jhwgh1968

    I believe that's Linux-based, but on hacking it (, bleh)

    @cliffwade

    jhwgh1968,
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    @RL_Dane @cliffwade I've done some research on past vulns and its descendence from "FirefoxOS", and have some ideas 😉

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    @jhwgh1968 @cliffwade

    Post an update if you get anywhere with it! :D

    Xorky,

    @cliffwade
    LineageOS (kind of Android) on an old Galaxy S5.

    I should use a Librem 5 with PureOS or a PinePhone Pro with eg. Manjaro Linux.

    TicklishHoneyBee,

    @cliffwade I don't use a 'smart' phone, so 'other'. Currently just use a basic calls and text mobile phone, but I may switch over to using a landline phone plugged into a 4g modem.

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  • TicklishHoneyBee,

    @cliffwade Mostly I've just yet to find a use for them. Anything I could/would use one for is easier to do on a laptop.
    I have had an android tablet a couple of times, but after playing with them a bit they just ended up sitting in their box for a year or so, then got sold off.
    I did use a pocket computer for a bit in the '90s, when I didn't have a desktop or laptop, mostly just for keeping notes and schedules.

    EDVARDS,
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    @cliffwade
    Light OS

    ddlyh,
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    @cliffwade Technically LineageOS, but I'll answer "Android" as it amounts to the same thing in the end.

    sumomo,

    @cliffwade I only use tablet instead of mobile phones…
    I’m mostly a mix between iOS and Android/Chrome

    snap2grid,
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    @cliffwade
    Currently PostmarketOS.
    @rebelrebel62

    RL_Dane,
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    @snap2grid

    What UI are you using on pmOS?

    @cliffwade @rebelrebel62

    snap2grid,
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    @RL_Dane
    Using Phosh. It's pretty basic, but I found Plasma Mobile to be slower and also -- and this is just a feeling -- trying too hard, if that makes sense.
    @cliffwade @rebelrebel62

    Ulrich_the_Elder,
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    @cliffwade My current phone is android. If I can find a linux phone I will try that next.

    julia,

    @cliffwade I use Android on my daily driver, but I hope I can replace it with a Linux phone within the next five years!

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    @julia

    As do I! 🤓

    @cliffwade

    rykthekreator,

    @cliffwade Mainly iOS. PC when recording / composing.

    FOSSingularity,

    @cliffwade I am part of the micro-percentage that uses a Linux phone :3 I also own ios devices and use android containers for certain apps on my linux phone

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  • FOSSingularity,

    @cliffwade Pinephone Pros are good, if you more want to just try Linux on a touchscreen platform, the Pinetab2 just came out for a pretty great price point, and while its software is still immature, eventually it'll be quite capable I'm sure, though Pine has stated repeatedly that they mainl want devs buying the pinetab2 for now

    teachpaperless,

    @cliffwade iOS at the moment but planning to revert this fall.

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  • teachpaperless,

    @cliffwade I like to openness a bit more actually. The ability to customise things like ringtone, keyboard layout and how apps interact with each other. Plus Google assistant and maps are a great combo.

    riko_leonhart,

    @cliffwade i'm using a custom version of android cos google pisses me off

    gortbrown,

    @cliffwade I jump between One UI Android and /e/ OS

    sikkdays,
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    @cliffwade I use Android technically, but I'm not using Google. I am running @calyxos

    RL_Dane,
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    @sikkdays

    🤜🏼💥🤛🏼

    @cliffwade @calyxos

    TriscuitProper,

    @sikkdays @cliffwade @calyxos this is my goal by end of year

    RL_Dane,
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    @TriscuitProper

    Hit me up for app recommendations when you switch.

    I found the process relatively easy, although I had to expand my RAMdisk-based /tmp mountpoint for it to work successfully.

    Good news is that it's really hard to brick a Pixel, and the Telegram/Matrix bridged chat is very helpful

    Been running Calyx since late 2021. Made my Pixel 4a 5G feel much faster, and the firewall is da bomb.

    @sikkdays @cliffwade @calyxos

    linkeddev,
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    @cliffwade I use Android but I wish I had another option. I usually only text and call on my phone. Nothing else really. I wanted to get a PinePhone since it's exactly what I need and want, but TMobile won't allow it on their network. I argued for ages with them and gave up.

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    @linkeddev

    Wha? How can they "not allow" a phone?

    Is it an issue of LTE bands?

    @cliffwade

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    @RL_Dane @cliffwade according to the stores manager, they'd occasionally send a ping/request data and if it's not an approved device/doesn't match their records, it gets its access cut off

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    @linkeddev

    That's so dumb

    Can you switch networks?

    What if you just buy a MiFi and do everything with VOIP?

    @cliffwade

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    @RL_Dane @cliffwade I probably could do those things but at the end of the day the inconvenience is just greater than what I'm willing to deal with. TMobile is also really the only affordable one right now, for me anyway

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    @jcrabapple @RL_Dane @cliffwade Sprint never had a problem with it, but when TMobile absorbed them, they did. They also forced me to buy a Galaxy A32, when my Galaxy S10e worked fine, just doesn't support 5g (which rarely works well). TMobile is a garbage company

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    @linkeddev @jcrabapple @cliffwade

    I don't know about your area, but in OK & TX, their coverage is hot garbage.

    Maybe consider an AT&T-based MVNO? Or Verizon-based?

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    @RL_Dane @jcrabapple @cliffwade I might try out Mint Mobile. They seem cool

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    @linkeddev @jcrabapple @cliffwade

    They're now owned by T-mo. :/

    I think they used T-mo's network, anyway.

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    @RL_Dane @jcrabapple @cliffwade Wait seriously?! ugh. I'll keep searching then :blobSweats:

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    @linkeddev @jcrabapple @cliffwade

    Yeah :/

    Cricket is owned by AT&T now. You might look at them.
    I used them in 2009 and they were abysmal, but that was the old network (T-mo, I think), and the old owners.

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  • nairb_db,

    @cliffwade I also use them both fairly extensively, but iOS ends up taking majority of my workloads and the one I gravitate towards taking with me (if i'm not going to carry both)

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    @cliffwade

    I think there has been an awful lot of cross-pollination over the years, but each will always have its own stand-out features.

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