pfefferle,
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RE: ActivityPub Plugin for WordPress: let's assume I would work on a feature that would allow you to follow a complete blog, what would be the best identifier for that account? @feed@example.org? @blog@example.com?
What are your ideas?

https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/issues/1

pfefferle,
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Btw. If you want to follow the progress: https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/pull/342

evan,
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@pfefferle configurable?

jules,

@pfefferle

Tricky. There can be multiple Blogs on one domain (in subdirectories, on subdomains). There can even be a user named 'blog' :)

For my own single blog domain with domain alias, I'd prefer @www or @blog to my current @jules

gubi,
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@pfefferle feed seems logical

bobjonkman,
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@pfefferle
Not having a catch-all user is one of the reasons I haven't installed the plugin on our radio station blog.

We use the Category feature to identify different shows, so when a new post is made it would be great if it was simultaneously published as @Feed, @Author, and @Category

And to be able to choose the @Feed name in the plugin configuration.

Thanx for a great plugin! I've installed it on other "less demading" sites 😁

mattwiebe,

@pfefferle Pleased to see all the support for feed@ 😤

travis,
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@pfefferle @pfefferle I would love it if the plugin could remove “www” from the domain if it exists. “@travis.newton” is a pretty ugly address.

dariusdunlap,

@pfefferle @evan
Configurable identifier? Maybe it's not in the cards,but I'd like to control what subset(s) of my posts would go out on ActivityPub, and maybe the identifier then uses category as the identifier? Does that break the follow paradigm, or make it more powerful?

teledyn,
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@pfefferle

'@feed' seems reasonable, or perhaps '@local'?

When I first pondered this on discovering mastodon I envisaged just declaring certain accounts that I could name arbitrarily and then have each follow specific accounts, but that then fails to boost each follow post. The intention was to allow for multiple subset feeds, like news sites offering categories.

But perhaps this could be done at the server? The plugin would auto-boost public toots from a specified accts or a category?

krisnelson,
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@pfefferle Tbh, anything would be great because this is a really important feature that I’ve been wanting for a while now!

But likely user definable would be best as I doubt one uniform name will work across all types of WordPress “blogs” (many of which are not exactly blogs anyway, but may be event listings, press releases, or whatever, esp as WP is used so often as a general CMS).

pfefferle,
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Thanks for all your answers!!! ❤️

morph,
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@pfefferle Oh, I forgot to answer while reading the thread. I think sth like the blog title or domain makes sense as default.

seav,
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@pfefferle another problem is if WP is installed under a subdirectory like domain.com/blog (and leaving the root domain to be handled by some other CMS).

pfefferle,
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@seav but this a general problem by the design of ActivityPub/WebFinger.

windhamdavid,

@pfefferle I'd prefer to define it as a setting.

balamaqab, (edited )
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@pfefferle I prefer something like @social or @blogtitle as default option.

alexstandiford,
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@pfefferle it it's the entire site, I think "feed" is a good default

alexstandiford,
@alexstandiford@fosstodon.org avatar

@pfefferle Maybe the post type slug?

jglemza,

@pfefferle I vote for feed. It sounds like it’s almost mirroring the RSS feed.

simon_lucy,
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@pfefferle the identifier has to be source defined not reader defined. There maybe different feeds on different pages or different parts of the site or even different sites on the same domain.

As the general naming of feeds is /feed it's probably reasonable to concatenate the URL such as page-section-feed.mydomain.com.

But the simplest case is to use the title of the feed, with perhaps -feed appended to it.

samsteiner,
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@pfefferle would NOT use "blog" as not every WordPress publication sees itself as a blog.

praetorim,

@pfefferle I would prefer either @blogtitle or @example.com@example.com. Otherwise, as the domain part often won't be shown, you would only see something like @all or @feed which might be a little bit confusing.

b3n,
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@pfefferle I guess something generic is better than eg the blog title, as ActivityPub breaks when the username changes, right?

@domain is weird, and can get very long (which is more weird).

So I’d go with “feed”, it’s technical, but maybe that’s good as it indicates that it indeed is an automated profile.

luca,
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@pfefferle @posts@example.org because WordPress calls them so as well.

luca,
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@pfefferle And I would want that stream to be only boosts of the individual authors posts.

pfefferle,
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@luca this is a really nice idea!

b3n,
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@pfefferle @luca Uhh, nice trick! And categories are boosts of the respective categories? That would all be interesting and make sure there are not many “copies” of the same post. (Bending the ontology here a little bit.)

dnddeutsch,
@dnddeutsch@pnpde.social avatar

@pfefferle @luca or $post_type and have a catchall for every custom post-type <3

maol,

@pfefferle lots of good points mentioned by others already. I'm thinking it should be @blog@example.com by default, and of course make it configurable.

Reasoning: people know the blog by its title, and Fediverse clients may shorten the name to just the first part without domain name. @feed, @blog or @all are going to be too generic for that

rmdes,
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@pfefferle why not everyone@domain.com?

Or authors@domain.com in a WordPress context

blindcoder,
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@pfefferle Gut feeling without knowing the internal workings of Wordpress: @feed for everything, @feed+category for specific categories, and @commonts+postid for comments to specific post. Ideally both ways.

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