Sharpiemarker,

Ha, good!

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Too bad you can’t see who downvoted you, too… Need that leaked, as well.

Reality_Suit,
@Reality_Suit@lemmy.one avatar

Hey, I just downvoted you.

Edit: Nevermind, getting a network error.

Edit: It will let me upvote you. Interesting.

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Feature for me, bug for you… :)

jopepa,

Someday

roastedDeflator,
roastedDeflator avatar

In kbin.social you can see that

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

First thing I’ve ever heard about kbin.social that sounded like a positive to me.

Drusas,

kbin.social is far and away less toxic than lemmy.world, probably because of the smaller community.

flipht,

Hello from kbin. It's nice over here.

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

What’s the scoop on cookies over there? Not web cookies, but the yummy cookies full of sugar.

SuiXi3D,
SuiXi3D avatar

Personally I like the UI better on mobile.

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m pretty happy wit Voyager on iPhone. :)

KnightontheSun,

Except the (1 reply) it cannot show for whatever reason.

dubyakay,

I thought Voyager stopped updating?

Geert,
@Geert@lemmy.world avatar

No, @aeharding the dev is pretty active? Only reason why things slowed down with most apps is because devs are testing or waiting for the Lemmy 0.19 release.

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Not that I’d heard of, and it still has me update every day or two.

oshitwaddup,

Kbin also lets you follow specific users. The lemmy devs actively don’t want lemmy to be able to do that and I don’t understand why

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Does it also let you disable anyone from following you as a user pref?

Kierunkowy74,
Kierunkowy74 avatar

No.

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ah, bummer. I’m a bit of a privacy for me, but not for thee hypocrite.

Send_me_nude_girls,
@Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de avatar

Wouldn’t it be pointless anyways, if people could just bookmark your profile url the old fashioned way regardless?

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Likely to not trigger the toxic social network elements that Twitter and Instagram have had?

Kierunkowy74,
Kierunkowy74 avatar

Only from kbin.social users for now.

nocturne213,

If you look at the modlog I thought it was visible there.

Rednax,

You can. Sort of.

Lemmy does not provide it via the UI. But it does provide the info via federation. If you set up your own instance, other instances will happily share this info with you. The information is inconvenient to access, but not hidden or private.

AceTKen,
@AceTKen@lemmy.ca avatar

Well that’s a terrifying prospect if you have any sort of opinion outside of the groupthink.

Coasting0942,

Wait till you figure out how much easier it is for the NSA Vaccum cleaner to spy on every single federated connection.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Just shows what cowards Nazis are. Hide behind downvotes, never explain yourself.

LillyPip,

Hey fascist lurkers: fuck everything about your fascist ideology. Stop being slaves to your overlords and fucking learn a thing.

You can think for yourselves, I promise. It may be hard and uncomfortable at first, but you’ll like yourself a lot more if you just put in a small bit of effort. You’re better than this.

jopepa,

Midgard.antifa.se/register/

Have fun doxing your local Nazi

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

Just found six people in my city. Now how I’m spending my day now.

jopepa,

The one from my home town wound up in prison for 4th degree arson. Burned down his own house by accident.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

Second guy I'm looking up has already been doxed by some racist-metal site bitching that he was selling pirated copies of their CDs on eBay.

jopepa,

Good to remember the enemy of your enemy isn’t always your friend. Sometimes it’s best to sit back and enjoy their self destructive little happenings

HopeOfTheGunblade,
HopeOfTheGunblade avatar

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. Nothing more and nothing less.

Mateoto,

Scary. The one I found from my city is a medical doctor with a good reputation. Fucking Nazis hiding good.

jopepa,

Fucking yikes, imagine if that were your doctor

CmdrShepard,

I searched, and surprisingly none within 50 miles of me.

jopepa, (edited )

Congratulations! This is only a directory of nazi punks and edgelord book clubs, really. Don’t get complacent, vote.

CommanderCloon,

The Nazis poofing into inexistence as you vote:

jopepa,

Nazis and white supremacists get a footing in government because they organize and vote. If the general population gets complacent and doesn’t vote then nazis poof into seats of power and influence. So what are you trying to say here?

SummerIsTooWarm,

I found two from my city. Kind of sickening to know that these creatures are in my vicinity

dang_rangatang,

I found one a couple houses down the street. Thank fuck I’m moving already.

Rodeo,

What are the legal implications of doxxing a person here? I can think of a few people I’d like to slap on that list, but it doesn’t seem risk free for me.

jopepa,

Fucking with nazis is never risk free, but not fucking with them is much riskier

rab,

A few in my small city but can’t find anything about them

suction,

In the Spirit of Musk‘s and other fascist‘s idea of free speech, here is the searchable database: midgard.antifa.se/register/

dpkonofa,

Dang. Already needs a mirror. Won’t load after only a few hours.

themeatbridge,

Seems like it’s being hugged to death at the moment.

lemuria,

They should offer a JSON download of the thing so it can spread far and wide and we all won’t have to go on the website…

qaz,

*JSON torrent, it ensures nobody is spreading modified/redacted copies, is hard to take down, and prevents a hug of death.

LillyPip,

Thank you.

some_guy,

Someone share it on that shitty site. I would, but I don’t have an account. Let Lonnie’s town square do its job.

Kowowow,

Oh wow it has room for social insurance numbers now that’s what I call doxxing

solrize,

I didn’t know neo-Nazi music was a thing. I’ve heard “Springtime for Hitler” but that was supposed to be parody.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXHRX8Q2hs

welldraught,

now all band together, let’s make bullying kill itself…

BreakDecks,
ThePac,

Yo if you’re a nazi you’ve already accepted being a complete piece of shit so you can simply fuck off and die

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Surely the rest of us can assist them

Yoz,

As a Brit I hate fucking scandinavians. They smell like spoiled milk.🤢

bartolomeo,

Is there any way to verify the claim or does it rest on AFA’s credibility?

some_guy,

People have posted links to the database in this discussion.

peter,
@peter@feddit.uk avatar

I think they mean verify that it came from that site and isn’t just a list of random people

bartolomeo,

Right

Saltycracker,

Why is do they never explain what makes it neo nazi.

Mongostein,

Neo = new

Nazi = Nazi

So, they’re not the old nazis, but they’re still flying swastikas and preaching the destruction of “inferior races”

cameron_vale,

When they came for the neo-nazis I said nothing.

Sanyanov,

When they didn’t come for neo-nazis, neo-nazis came for you.

seejur,

And then when they came for you… joking no one intolerant enough to come for someone else was left.

cameron_vale,

I’m too high to parse that

ergifruit,

as a Norse pagan, i want to kick every last one of these freaks in the dick. we need to work even harder to get these braindead removed away from our spaces. a reminder to all our other pagan friends: if you let a cockroach into your home, it will nest.

SpiceyDejarik,

I once went to a pagan pride festival and noticed that the vendor with Norse stuff had “No Nazis” signs up. Up to that point, I didn’t know that Nazis had infiltrated Norse paganism. It sucks and it makes me worry about my daughter’s boyfriend who is really into Norse pagan stuff. I hope I have raised her well enough that she will punch him in the dick if he starts in on any neo-Nazi shit.

Facebones, (edited )

I’ve blocked all the nazis trying to engage with me saying nazis aren’t bad so I’ll just say this in a TLC and block more nazis when they reply -

It’s funny that all the people calling ME evil for not considering the nuances of various people’s nazi ideology… Are the same people who think women should die for wearing jeans, and that people should die for having a different religion, or die for not sharing a skin tone…

Nazis are nazis are nazis. If your world view was so different, spoilers, you wouldn’t identify with nazis. 🤷

FUCK NAZIS.

vxx,

I would advise to call them Neo-Nazis instead of Nazis. Most Nazis are dead and Neo-Nazis are given too much distraction by giving them this easy excuse.

aniki,

That’s such a stupid fucking argument to nit pick it’s almost absurd.

Nazis is as Nazis does. Adding a prefix changes nothing.

vxx,

You’re relativising Nazis this way and are also making it way too easy to not take you serious.

aniki,

Says the dude downplaying titles.

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

oh no, the fucking Nazis don’t take us seriously, we’re so screwed

-nobody

Dr_DOOM_,

I like you!

Facebones,

I like you, buddy.

mob,

Nazis are obviously bad, but this comment makes me think that anyone you don’t like/like their comments/replies, you consider a Nazi?

cameron_vale,

Who do you supposed killed more people. The Nazis or the USA?

Cowbee,

Per Capita, in total, Per capita per year, or total per year? Each of these 4 types has a different answer, and the Nazis were higher in nearly every metric of slaughter.

The US is bad. The US has never been fully fascist, despite flirting with it. Nazi Germany was perhaps the most evil and oppressive country to ever exist in history, and certainly was for the 20th century.

What exactly is your point? Nazis are bad, but so is the US? I don’t think too many people on Lemmy are fans of the US, but to insinuate that the Nazis are somehow more palatable by being compared to the US is absurd.

mob,

Even without defining those parameters, I also thought it was sort of strange to compare a political party vs country.

Cowbee,

It’s all strange. What’s the point? “Hmmm, you think Nazis are bad? Have you considered that other countries are bad but significantly less bad? Checkmate!” It’s just terminally online.

mob,

Oh yeah, at it’s root, it was already bad.

I’m always interested in a decent discussion or thought experiment though, even if I completely disagree with the other person. 99% are so lazy nowadays it’s not even interesting reading their copy/paste comments that have been recycled for the last decade

cameron_vale,

Ooh, evasive. Which metric did USA win? And by how much?

Just delivering a dose of sanity to this low hanging fruit salad.

Of course nazis are bad. But you people. Look at you. Frothing on command. Bunch of drones waiting for your target programming.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Ooh, evasive. Which metric did USA win? And by how much?

If you knew anything about what you were talking about you would already know.

Cowbee,

Odd to call it “winning,” but the answer is “historical total.” The US has murdered tens of millions more over its several hundred year history than Nazi Germany killed in the less than half a century it existed.

It isn’t sanity to pretend that hundreds of years of brutal history are equally comparable to an extremely condensed period of the single most brutal country to exist in modern history. Nazism is far more evil than liberalism, even if liberalism is still inevitably evil.

cameron_vale, (edited )

Oh how you evade my point.

Remember. A few years of deprivation, a rousing propaganda campaign and a billionaire’s funding, and you too might become the next “bad guy”.

Heck, none of these people ever saw a nazi outside of a videogame, and look at their passion. Puppets looking for a master.

Cowbee,

I’ll make it simple for you: Nazis are bad.

cameron_vale,

Were they born bad?

sarmale,

No, they were born innocent, when they became nazis they became bad

cameron_vale,

Ah so they changed. Why did they change?

sarmale,

I dont know, maybe the had bad experiences with something or maybe they just became so because surroundings? But why does it matter?

cameron_vale,

It matters because it’s the difference between them and you.

So if we had bad experiences then maybe we would be nazis.

That idea makes my head spin.

sarmale,

They probably had a lot of choiches to make tho, That idea makes me think too but its not like they were predestined or something

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Criminals aren’t born bad, they have to break the law which is a social contract.

Tolerance is also a social contract that Nazis have opted out of.

Fuck Nazis.

cameron_vale,

Ya I saw that movie too.

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

The one where the Nazis get stomped in the 20th century or the one where the Nazis get stomped in the 21st century?

Cowbee,

When one becomes a Nazi, they cease to be able to be considered good.

cameron_vale,

Oh just answer the simple question

Cowbee,

Why? You keep trying to dodge that your central point is that people should stop saying Nazis are bad, because the US exists. It’s absurd and nothing more needs to be said, you aren’t willing to engage in fair or meaningful convo

cameron_vale,

But that isn’t my central point my obtuse buddy.

My central point is that it’s complicated. Because reality is complicated. And the difference between a nazi and a regular person is much smaller than you think.

Cowbee,

Nazis are evil. Simple.

cameron_vale,

That would make a good videogame

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Nazis love dehumanizing people

Bunch of drones

Go on and tell us how much better you are than a Nazi.

cameron_vale,

You realize that calling people nazis is dehumanizing too, right?

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Nazi is a subclassification of humans, it actually does the opposite of dehumanizing by more thoroughly defining the human/humanity relationship.

But if me saying “fuck Nazis” gets you riled up so be it 🫡

mob,

What a strange and leading question.

cameron_vale,

Some hard numbers might add clarity to this soup of outraging.

mob,

I’m confused by the whole comment line. Do I seem like I’m outraging, or have any strong opinions any way that needs to be clarified?

cameron_vale,

Focus on answering the question. It aids clarity.

mob,

It’s an irrelevant question leading into a off topic point that you’d like to make. If you’d like to deliver a point, go ahead and comment it. Not my job to try and land your point for you though.

cameron_vale,

Suit yourself.

Oderus,

I see you took the cowards way to avoid an argument.

Lianodel,

That user was cowardly from the jump. It’s why they wouldn’t outright make their point, but “just ask questions.”

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

If the bar for being a Nazi is merely killing people many of us would be Nazis. Personally I think nazihood has more to do with a wish to genocide (the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.).

cameron_vale, (edited )

Normal people just want to pay their bills and get high. But sometimes life gets fucked up and people are stressed out.

Then some politicians come along with a story about how those guys with the different skin/religion/etc are to blame.

And then some rich guys buy you some guns.

So maybe it’s the politicians and the rich guys that we should be looking at.

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

So maybe it’s the politicians and the rich guys that we should be looking at.

You don’t need money or power to be a deadbeat fucking Nazi.

Facebones,

I think people who defend nazis, their right to believe in nazi ideology, and argue that nazis are overall fine people are nazis or nazi apologists which are equally unwelcome in my circles and consciousness. Sorry, I’m not going to feel bad for hurting nazi feelings.

You can reply to this and “um actually” all you want about nazis, but if you’re pro-nazi, I’m gonna block you. Easy peasy.

brbposting,

Gotta do my part and never block anybody so I can advocate for e.g. defederating nazinstances.

It ain’t much, but…

some_guy,

Check Talia Levin’s book, Culture Warlords. She spent a year undercover online as a far-right personality and wrote about the encounters she experienced. It was a rough time, clearly. She’s in the punch-a-nazi camp and reading her book landed me there at the end.

commie,

hey can we be friends?

Cowbee,

There are people siding with Nazis and reporting this post for doxxing, lol

negativeyoda,

So wild that this is a hot take these days

tryagain,

Make Nazis Windchimes Again.

jabjoe,
@jabjoe@feddit.uk avatar

Your right to not tolerate intolerance.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

rab,

You remind me of one of my friends who uses the word nazi so much it’s basically lost all its weight

Cowbee,

Imagine getting mad at someone saying Nazis are bad. I wouldn’t be caught dead getting upset that someone was saying Nazis are bad, lmao

rab,

What annoys me is throwing the word around like it’s nothing, dude calls pretty much anyone a nazi lol

For example, I was called a nazi for saying maybe Canada is taking too many immigrants at once

Cowbee,

Depends entirely on the context. Framed like that? Probably not a Nazi, but I wouldn’t dare make judgement without knowing what actually transpired.

Might be a hot take, but the idea that the word “Nazi” is thrown around like it’s nothing is actually overblown, and usually it’s correctly thrown.

rab,

Maybe my friends are dumb but the far left ones love using the word whenever possible

Cowbee,

Usually the far left calls everyone a liberal, it’s liberals that call conservatives Nazis. The far left usually calls actual fascists Nazis.

rab,

Yeah I’m economically far left but socially I lean a little further right, which has gotten me called a nazi before, which is ridiculous if you actually know me haha

Cowbee,

To be fair, understanding the damage of hierarchy economically while simultaneously rejecting intersectionality and upholding it socially is an extremely fringe view to have. Socialists with conservative social views are very rare in developed countries and online.

rab,

Tldr I’m a pantheist who believes there are simply too many people on planet earth and I’m also very intolerant towards most religions, I guess that would make you want to call me an ecofascist which I don’t really identify with either, but it’s a lot less infuriating than being called a nazi

Cowbee,

Isn’t it funny how when you add context, “maybe Canada is taking in too many immigrants at once” turns into “yea, I’m probably better described as an ecofascist even if I don’t like the way that sounds, and I am intolerant and believe in overpopulation?”

All I’m saying is that my suspicion was a lot closer to being correct. Ecofascism is far closer to Nazism than mere “immigration too quick” ploys, and it makes sense to call you a fascist in that context.

Maybe reconsider your positions if they even put you in the vicinity of fascism? Just a hint.

rab,

So you think the earth can sustain an infinite amount of people? Lol

Cowbee,

Since when did disagreeing with the idea that the Earth is currently at or reaching overpopulation levels equivalent to thinking that those levels don’t exist?

You could move far, far away from Nazism and Ecofascism, and join EcoMarxists. No intolerance, no lack of intersectionality, and a true leftist movement, rather than a far-right fascist movement.

rab,

Religion is either just a cult or a business and we should be intolerant towards it just as much as Nazism imo. I am tolerant towards most things but if you believe in a man in the sky I am going to think less of you

I think we are already overpopulated, it’s easy to see from the biodiversity the planet is losing. If there were a button I could press that would kill myself and millions of other people without discrimination or pain I would press it, but that’s an impossible idea

Cowbee,

Just don’t be a fascist, buddy. Get help.

rab,

You admitted above that earth cannot sustain infinite people so we’re kind of on the same page here. What is your idea when that limit is reached?

Cowbee,

Not genocide, lol.

rab,

What’s the other option? Convincing people to willingly off themselves? Lol

rab,

What is your idea for when we reach those levels then?

Facebones,

You remind me of apologists who argue somebody can’t be a nazi even though they spout the ideology and use the language, because they aren’t on record saying “I heart Hitler” three times in a mirror.

rab,

I dunno someone called me a nazi recently at my university for wearing a burzum shirt for example lol

Word is definitely getting thrown around a lot these days

Facebones,

It’s not coincidence, there’s alot more nazis running around on some nazi shit. By the way in case you didn’t know, while I don’t recall it coming up in the music (I have a Burzum CD around here somewhere) but - Burzum/Varg was increasingly on some nazi/white nationalist shit, so it’s not some “fuckin LiBrUlZ” conspiracy to call everybody a nazi, you were just wearing a shirt associated with nazi shit. 🤷

rab,

I know who varg is. It’s impossible to listen to black metal and entirely avoid this kind of thing. I was wearing a hvis lyset tar oss shirt, there are no such themes on the album, and I bought the shirt way before varg went full nazi on YouTube (it’s counterfeit anyway so he got nothing from me)

The only black metal I avoid are ones where nazi themes are explicitly in the lyrics

Do digging on the people behind any black metal band and you’ll probably find something similar, it’s extreme music made by extreme people

Facebones,

You’re missing the point - you weren’t called a nazi cause you were wearing a sccarryy black metal tee. You were called a nazi for wearing a nazi’s tee.

Whatevs, you’ve made it abundantly clear that you’re being intentionally obtuse in defense of nazis so I’m over it. Bye Felicia.

Lianodel,

Also, just to see if they have even the tiniest bit of plausible deniability, I checked out Midgard’s shop. There’s overtly white supremacist shit ALL OVER the place.

It’s not like these people accidentally supported a band with reprehensible beliefs behind the scenes. It’s not like a totally normal music shop turned out to be a front for white supremacists. There’s note even any serious argument about “separating art from the artist.” The leak includes what people bought, and you can tell when someone bought overtly white supremacist music. And even if they didn’t, and the band or album name doesn’t give anything away, what’s it doing at the Nazi store? Why isn’t it streaming, or on Bandcamp, or self-distributed? These customers still had to know there’s an obscure Nazis music store, what it’s called and where to find it, confirm that it’s a Nazi store the moment they went there, and still give them money and their address to place a mail order. Oh, some of them aren’t native English speakers? Then that just makes it even more damning that they did all this with a language barrier in place!

Plus, just look at the apologists in this thread. They’re fucking cowards. They can’t just come out with their beliefs, so they’re just asking questions, deflecting from the topic. One is concern trolling for the fundamental humanity of literal Nazis, despite the fact that the main fucking problem with Nazis is that they considered marginalized groups subhuman. Where’s the concern there? Why the focus on the people who oppose Nazis rather than the Nazis themselves? Another one could barely resist giving the game away by saying they’ve been called a Nazi before because of their anti-immigrant positions.

The people defending this shop and its customers aren’t serious people. They’re dishonest, cowardly, and stupid.

P00P_L0LE,
@P00P_L0LE@lemmy.ml avatar

incredible amounts of nazi-treat-defending in this thread. wish I could say I’m surprised but, of course, I’m not.

cameron_vale,

Nazis are the lowest-hanging fruit. Thus we see many dwarven fruitarians here. And dwarven fruitarians seriously deserve mocking.

mob,

I don’t know shit about this band/this type of music… is it actually the kind of music that only Nazis would listen to?

Like, if someone leaked a Pantera fan list, I guess I wouldn’t be on the wagon to ruin all their lives, even though Pantera is pretty well known for racism, shouting White Power and Nazi sautes n shit.

theguardian.com/…/pantera-shows-cancelled-after-f…

if you didn’t know about Pantera

some_guy,

Phil Anselmo did a nazi salute. This made me sad. But the band didn’t market themselves as nazis or write songs that praised nazism or overt racism. I wouldn’t mind if someone knew that I own all their albums (except the one where they were apparently a hair band; I never saw that in stores when I was buying CDs). They didn’t make nazi music, so I can defend it.

I won’t send money their way because of the nazi salute. That I can also defend.

mob,

Oh yeah, I’m not trying to blame a fan base over the actions of a group/artist. I also don’t know what type of music the original post is about. Maybe they do make music thats like “we are Nazis and so are you if you sre listening” and then I’d probably be understanding of consequences of being fans.

But that Nazi salute is definitely not the only documented racism by Pantera members, and I’m sure you know that.

That doesn’t make their fans racist imo

penquin,

Damn it. Why did you have to make me aware of this? :/ I love Pantera.

sugartits,

You think you have problems?!

I used to be a big Lostprophets fan… 😭

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

If you don’t know about this one already, do yourself a favor and don’t Google it.

littlecolt, (edited )

This makes me incredibly sad.

Edit: seriously tho. I never wanted to believe the band members were racist or anything. The song Rise was always my go to to show people how inclusive they wanted to be. “Taught when we’re young to hate one another, it’s time to have a new reign of power. Make pride universal so no one gives in, turn out backs on those who oppose”

I always thought that song especially was saying “we must not hate one another. We must all be proud of who we are and turn our backs on those who continue to hate.” I may need to do some deeper thinking about it all. I have not listened to them in many years. Dimebag dying legit hurt.

RinseDrizzle,

Such a fucking shame learning about great music being made by terrible folks. Sooooo many rockers with controversy, be it racism, underage groupie fucking, or otherwise.

Thankfully there’s no shortage of really talented people making awesome music these days. May need to dig around a bit, but my Spotify is an absolute labyrinth of more tunes than I can possibly get through. I’ve had to make annual playlists for every sub genre I’m into just to attempt to keep my archive manageable.

damnyouclouds,

Yep. Lot of bands you’d like to support, to buy their music, later find out they are damn bigots, nazis, whatever asswipes you can find. Especially in the metal scene. Makes me sad

rab,

Extreme music is made by extreme people

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