Perhaps I've misunderstood how Lemmy works, but from what I can tell Lemmy is resulting in fragmentation between communities. If I've got this wrong, or browsing Lemmy wrong, please correct me!...
I'm posting this from kbin, so I don't know if you will see this, but I thought Magazine was a group set up by kbin (like a sub-reddit, with a specific name). Are you saying that a kbin Magazine is something I set up myself with my own collection of content?
Same here, I had to clear the link off my home screen and reopen Kbin on Firefox to get a version that wasn't just a web link. For some reason, it looks so much cleaner to me now without the address bar at the bottom.
As someone that has spent the better part of the week mucking with it.... the kbin build docs have multiple gaps in the documentation and are functionally broken unless you have some better understanding of the setup. I WAS able to get the system built, but could never get it online. Best i got was 500 errors where the UI was up but there was a break somewhere in Redis, Postgres, Nginx etc. All the logs were clean though. This was with the docker method and build from source method on both Ubuntu 22.04 and Debian 11 (which are what he specifically referenced)
Lemmy was much easier to setup using the ansible method. I have an instance online. Though im still working out the federation thing and some other kinks. I figured it would just reach out to Activity pub and federate with everyone but now it seems I have to build a static list...If if search for an instance i know exists I get a
404: couldnt_find_community
So there are some gaps but it seems much more mature. For example you cant mark your instance private AND have federation enabled. If you do that and restart the instance will fail to come up, but theres no warning or error in the UI.
I like the kbin dev better as people. But the lemmy code is definately more polished, even if the devs are turd sammiches.
I have a lab at home and do host some stuff for myself from there in a small DMZ (ie: Miniflux RSS readers, Plex through Reverse proxy etc).
But I used a linode for my lemmy/kbin stuff. Reason being is that the code is fairly new and there may be exploits bugs and
I dont want to deal with my ISP made an instance is exploited and becomes some type of C2 box or spews out spam. Kbin specifically already has PRs to fix XSS and Sql injection stuff, the former of which is usually avoidable if you just follow some pretty basic principles. So its a concern.
Linode has better bandwidth than my non-symmetrical ISP uplink and is on its own quota.
When I visit kbin.social, I see new posts regularly. On other servers posts stay on the frontpage for multiple days. This is also true if I switch their sorting to "hot". So that is probably not the difference....
Kbin and Lemmy are different frameworks and have been written using different languages. After some hiccups initially, kbin seem to be more stable than Lemmy right now, including when it comes to frontpage sorting. But both are pretty new and are actively being developed. You can expect these issues to be fixed soon as the devs push new updates.
Unknown about kbin, but I’ve heard that Hot is currently broken for (most?) instances across the lemmyverse. (This might be related to the size of the instance - apparently for small (single-to-double-digit users) instances Hot works fine?)
Edit: and this is supposed to be fixed in the next release, 0.18
So, what’s the general consensus on Lemmy? Is it a toxic project with questionable roots, or just one with some really bad PR? The app is not especially impressive to me, thus far, but I’m told it’s more advanced than Kbin, and I may not be configured properly.
@shoq I mean, I won't support a project controlled by tankies so there is that. Same reason I won't consider Soapbox and other apps that will boost the profile of harmful people. I get that it's open source, but a huge benefit is choice. I haven't checked out Kbin yet, but so far as I know they aren't genocidal.
There was no design decision. Kbin was not ready for prime time and Ernest has said as much. Everything was slapped together and will take time to sort out.
@andycarolan federation via ActivityPub (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub). I can also follow people and reply to posts from Lemmy, Kbin, BookWyrm, etc. To simplify, we can use email as an example, which uses IMAP behind the scenes.
Didn't have this problem the past days, but today I got notifications from people replying to my comments. I click on them, and it navigates me to the article's page, but I cannot see the replies to my comments....
Are any of you guys seeing an issue where the comments from a remote community do not match properly when viewing them from kbin, or directly from the source? I'm talking like.. massive differences in the number of comments.
The large majority of Reddit users are casual and don’t care. I honestly don’t blame them, there are other things to worry about. We, the fediverse community, need to stop concerning ourselves with Reddit honestly. It’s pretty embarrassing at this point. It’s like stalking an ex on social media after a break up. If you expected Reddit to die because of this you were living in a dream world. What did happen is a part of the Reddit community left and discovered the fediverse. Over time more improvements will be made at a faster pace. Eventually Lemmy or Kbin may become the new “Front Page of the Internet” but it was not going to happen over night. I am excited to see where we are in a year from now.
Stop worrying about Reddit. Enjoy Lemmy or Kbin, contribute, and grow the community. All things in good time my friend.
@WhyNotZoidberg :) Yes, you're probably seeing posts from #Lemmy servers in the feed on #Kbin. They are threads, for sure. On Lemmy, threads are grouped into Communities on Kbin it's Magazines. Kbin is bundling Threads and Microblog posts together into these Magazines: https://kbin.social/m/kbin/microblog
With the search being partially broken ATM, it's a bit annoying to open another community (https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted) in kbin (https://kbin.social/m/selfhosted@lemmy.world)...
I tried to subscribe to it by searching it in magazines but neither @valheim, !valheim or valheim@lemmy.world would give any results. It's a small community but it exists for at least 4 days, it should be searchable, right? I've had similar issues with other communities too, I have no idea how to subscribe to them from kbin.
Honestly I'm not sure. I think normally they should only appear if somebody from your instance is subscribed to them or if you search for it manually. Tbh kbin's search has been broken for me since I've joined, so that might have something to do with why nothing shows up?
Although I've checked it now and https://kbin.social/m/valheim@lemmy.world works and you can subscribe (just doesn't show the post from the original ...yet?) so... maybe there's something more to it.
@Timwi I am also struggling with this a bit. I have been trying to do this manually with mixed results. For example, I manually typed out https://kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.world and it works. However, a smaller lemmy.world community 'Sooners' doesn't work (https://kbin.social/m/sooners@lemmy.world). Does the federation sync prioritize larger communities and /c/sooners just hasn't been sync'd yet?
I want to send a link to my less-than-informed-on-fediverse friend a link and was hoping to do it straight via kbin
@Timwi I think I figured out the problem. I was able to find sooners via search in kbin. Then, I could subscribe to it on kbin. Once I did that, the url I posted above started to work. So I am wondering if kbin doesn't start pulling specific community data from other instances until at least one user is subscribed to the other instance's community
@exchgr Its a forum platform, like Reddit. Except its compatible with Mastodon, Miss/Calkey, Friendica etc. You can post to "communities" and reply to them - from within a Lemmy instace, or from Mastodon or other Fediverse apps.
KBin is a compatible alternative, the two play nicely together.
Mit den vielen neuen #Gruppen im #Fediverse geht euch vielleicht ein wenig die Übersicht verloren. Zum Glück gibt es in #Friendica eine Möglichkeit direkt nach Gruppen zu suchen und diesen zu folgen. Damit entfällt die #Suche auf externen Seiten.
Die Suche wird statt eines "@" mit einen "!" eingeleitet. In der Treffervorschau werden euch alle Gruppen angezeigt, die zu diesen Namen gefunden wurden. Die Trefferliste liefert euch gleich noch die korrekte Adressierung zum Abonnieren einer Gruppe.
Asif Youssuff assembled this short list of subreddits and corresponding kbin or Lemmy communities that have sprung up to replace them. It’s organized into subscriber count buckets, making it easier to evaluate whether the replacement community is active enough for your subscription.
I don't see how Lemmy will fill the gap of Reddit - it's resulting in fragmentation
Perhaps I've misunderstood how Lemmy works, but from what I can tell Lemmy is resulting in fragmentation between communities. If I've got this wrong, or browsing Lemmy wrong, please correct me!...
Does lemmy.world really have 26000 users already? (lemmy.world)
Almost! At the time of this post, lemmy.world has a whopping 25733 users and is growing fast....
FYI, Lemmy and Kbin are Progressive Web Apps, meaning you can install them as regular apps to your phone's home screen
On iOS: tap the share button in browser => add to home screen...
Should I host my own instance if I don't intend to run a community?
Is there any benefit to host my own instance?
Why does the frontpage of kbin.social work so much better than any other server?
When I visit kbin.social, I see new posts regularly. On other servers posts stay on the frontpage for multiple days. This is also true if I switch their sorting to "hot". So that is probably not the difference....
MagASEAN & getting around the threadi/fediverse
Based on my experience so far, new posts using the hashtags tracked will show up on the microblog. Old posts aren't going to get picked up....
How does the reputation system work?
I gots lots of up beans but still in minus... I know I shouldn't care
Are comments broken?
Didn't have this problem the past days, but today I got notifications from people replying to my comments. I click on them, and it navigates me to the article's page, but I cannot see the replies to my comments....
Join the Kmoon Discord Server! (discord.gg)
Announcements, feedback and feature request. Plus I'll be posting technical jargon for the geeks in the room ;)...
Took a peek on Reddit, it really boggles my mind how oblivious and obedient people are.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/695201...
OC "View this community on KBIN" bookmarklet
With the search being partially broken ATM, it's a bit annoying to open another community (https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted) in kbin (https://kbin.social/m/selfhosted@lemmy.world)...
Looking for a subreddit replacement? Try this unofficial subreddit migration list. (www.quippd.com)
Asif Youssuff assembled this short list of subreddits and corresponding kbin or Lemmy communities that have sprung up to replace them. It’s organized into subscriber count buckets, making it easier to evaluate whether the replacement community is active enough for your subscription.