I have never been a huge Reddit user but I am obviously fascinated by the potential migration to #Threadiverse alternatives. Tell me friends, what’s better!? #kbin or #lemmy and does it matter because they are interoperable?! 👍 🙌 #Fediverse
Signs of the #RedditMigration in action: Three of the top 6 fastest growing #Fediverse servers are not only not Mastodon.social but they are not even microblogging servers - but rather are #Threadiverse servers.
That is only seriously good for the entire Fedi infrastructure. Diversity is strength.
it's up to ernest ofc but imo closing signups kinda feels "un-kbin". fearing defederation from beehaw is just silly. they will do what they will do, and imo it's pointless to try and center kbin's actions on those of an entirely different site and instance.
if the influx of people is making it hard to do admin stuff, then I guess it might be necessary, but simply to "spread users around" I don't really support. If people want to come to kbin.social, let them come to kbin.social.
So far the userbase for kbin has been widely respectful and friendly. If that changes via trolls making multiple accounts to stir shit up, I'd advocate for restricted signup processes. Right now, probably not necessary, but I can certainly see a future where it is.
What instances don't have open signup? I'm on kbin but also signed up to sh.itjust.works and another instance because I had no idea what I was doing. The only difference was that one of them required that I write a quick blurb on why I wanted to join. What does a closed signup look like?
Try to login with the creds you set. I never received a follow up email and on a whim tried my creds and it worked.
That being said, I know they also are having problems approving all of the new applicants given the influx and manual process. Keep trying though! While I'm on Kbin as well, Beehaw is my preferred instance so far given the structure and moderation.
That Reddit will not shut down. It will take the hit and go on and probably make at least some money. Only, it will be a much different place, more like Facebook or Instagram, in that it will be full of ads and less specific information....
Ha - funny enough my Masto identity seen from #kbin shows me having 'reputation points' over there already, even though I haven't been aware of interacting with kbin from this acct. The smooth intersection of federated sites/users I guess.
And 'Joined 1month ago' I guess that's prob when kbin itself went online?
kbin isn't Lemmy! It's separate, but they talk to each other. It's another Fediverse app that uses activitypub. You can use your kbin account to comment on mastodon, pixelfed, peertube etc too!
#Lemmy now has 135,369 accounts. That is tracking with my expectations.
But while #Kbin had ~7,000 accounts yesterday, it’s just shot up to 30,930 accounts today.
While Lemmy is the 5th most used server software on the Fediverse, Kbin is now in 10th place and it’s growing at a faster rate than Lemmy.
A few days ago, I predicted that the #RedditMigration would result in 150,000-300,000 new accounts being created on the Fediverse. That expectation has already been met.
This #RedditMigration is fundamentally changing the course of the Fediverse. It’s moved the Fediverse from being primarily about microblogging to having more eclectic use cases.
While the #TwitterMigration validated that decentralized social media can appeal to millions of people, the #RedditMigration has validated that decentralized social media has man varied applications – both in the software and use case sense.
@avantgeared@atomicpoet even if the devs weren't fascists I'd still recommend kbin, it's just better written software - the original instance was running on the equivalent of a fat pi up until recently and it just looks a million times better.
But I can't make people not use nazi software. They have to learn the hard way.
Edit: I've been schooled in the comments, this is no longer a thing, they've relented and allowed more control over the censor list. But hey, it's kinda funny still, so, feel free to keep reading if you like......
TL;DR both of them speak the same language so both can call each other up and trade info back and forth. You can upvote/comment/whatever on either and it'll appear on both sides without you having to do anything special.
It doesn't all go back to lemmy, but lemmy and kbin speak the same language (ActivityPub) and can talk to each other (they are federated). Others in this thread have compared it to email where you might be on different services (gmail, yahoo, icloud) but they can still all understand messages coming from each other. The fediverse is similar, but instead of just sending a message to another site to put in your inbox like email, lemmy/kbin/mastodon/etc can ask each other for stuff on an external site and display it to you as if it was all coming from the same site.
In our case kbin calls up lemmy.world and asks for what everybody there is saying on some post. Lemmy.world tells kbin about all the comments and upvotes so kbin can plug it into the same style of page you see for everything else here. Even though it's happening on a separate server and underlying platform, they still know how to exchange data
2 #Question please:
Is there any difference between #kbin and #lemmy?
Also, was there not an alternative to #Reddit already? Boat? (or something like that)?
@tedel you're right, they are two separate things, but since they both are part of the fediverse you can interact with Lemmy from kbin and vice versa. I'm not really sure how all of that works under the hood, but afaik it doesn't really matter which one you sign up on
For a sub that’s supposed to promote Reddit alternatives, there sure is a lot of pessimism on there. I see so many people dismissing Lemmy and kbin already for being too inaccessible, the UI is clunky, it’s hard to pick up etc and saying these sites will never take off. But why? Of course a platform in its infancy will have...
Just makes linking a magazine (on lemmy they are called communities) a pain because lemmy uses the !exclamation mark to refer to a magazine while kbin uses @ at sign in the beginning of the fediverse link. But to be honest reddit was kind of confusing to me in the beginning as well.
@AbstractLinguist@JohnDClay@s804@Tigbitties@BaldProphet and it looks like lemmy to you because you are on lemmy. I'm on Friendica, which is why this whole post looks like Friendica even though there is contents in it from lemmy, Kbin Friendica, and even Wordpress. It like deciding to join a subreddit on your facebook profile, and it just works.
hey everyone. if you want to post links or discuss the Reddit blackout, its aftermath, and what's happening going forward, please localize it to this thread in order to keep things tidy! thanks! we'll see if we need to cycle the thread again before the end of this week, but i don't know that we'll need to
My curiosity about kbin has become much greater than my desire to go back to reddit which is really weird. Definitely NOT what I had in mind, but I'll take it!
unironically our admin here on kbin @ernest. he's an absolute champ and madlad. seeing his reaction to the influx of users, the comments and issues brought up, and how fast he's gotten things running smoothly again just makes me think "yeah I made the right decision".
I also really like how polite and civil everyone has been. reddit always feels like people are at each others' throats whereas here on the fediverse people are more willing to hear each other out.
Ok, so what I did now (and I hope that fixes it) is change my supervisor config at /etc/supervisor/conf.d/kbin-messenger.conf
I had both services in there (doc) running under the kbin user, since the ubuntu user in the doc does not exist. I changed it to www-data
Since I've done that, I have not had any problems... We'll see
Is there any way to make my home page only show my subscribed magazine threads instead of across the fediverse? I have it set to subscriptions under my profile settings for homepage but that doesn't seem to change anything.
@Hellsadvocate There should be gear icon next to an icon of 3 dots and lines, if you're on PC it should be on the right sight, mobile you tap the kbin logo and it pops up. In that gear turn on "Show top bar" from there you have the option of "Subscribed" which makes it only show stuff you are subscribed to. Alternatively you can just go to kbin.social/sub
I think mod tools will become a higher priority as more users, posts, and comments start to show up. Given kbin’s sudden explosive growth, I doubt mod support was high on the dev’s todo list last week.
Yeah I hope that with time more community members will find their way over here if the reddit decline continues, but it is nice to have a very small community with lots of engagement too! I think it'll be interesting to see if Kbin or Lemmy ends up being more successful, and how many people actually migrate over here.
OC Potentially unpopular opinion: It may be time to close registrations (temporarily).
Hey kbinMeta....
What’s the deal with lemmy.world and beehaw?
I don’t get what the problem is? Anyone can elaborate....
The harsh truth is...
That Reddit will not shut down. It will take the hit and go on and probably make at least some money. Only, it will be a much different place, more like Facebook or Instagram, in that it will be full of ads and less specific information....
Lemmy Explorer: Search All Communities and Instances (lemmyverse.net)
cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/717257...
One single hard-coded uneditable slur words list... really?!
Edit: I've been schooled in the comments, this is no longer a thing, they've relented and allowed more control over the censor list. But hey, it's kinda funny still, so, feel free to keep reading if you like......
It was confusing at first (lemmy.world)
What’s with the cynicism towards Lemmy on r/RedditAlternatives and Reddit in general?
For a sub that’s supposed to promote Reddit alternatives, there sure is a lot of pessimism on there. I see so many people dismissing Lemmy and kbin already for being too inaccessible, the UI is clunky, it’s hard to pick up etc and saying these sites will never take off. But why? Of course a platform in its infancy will have...
Me on my first day of lemmy (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
What is fediverse and why is it so talked about in this site?
fediverse?
Megathread for Reddit Blackouts and News - Rest of the Week(?)
hey everyone. if you want to post links or discuss the Reddit blackout, its aftermath, and what's happening going forward, please localize it to this thread in order to keep things tidy! thanks! we'll see if we need to cycle the thread again before the end of this week, but i don't know that we'll need to
What's the one thing about the fediverse that you like the most?
What's the one thing about the fediverse that makes you go, "oh yeah, this for me"...
Isn't it ironic.... that we all left reddit because 3rd party apps were being killed off, and came to a place where there are no 3rd party apps.
edited to meet rule #3!
Looking for mods!
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