alan, to random
@alan@subdued.social avatar

I have to say this is my new number one favorite explainer video about Proportional Representation and Single Transferable Voting:

https://www.vox.com/videos/24091275/why-us-elections-only-give-you-two-choices

(my previous go-to video was by the inimitable CGP Grey, and it's still great if you want more details about the mechanics of STV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8XOZJkozfI)

woody,

@alan

The video was great. And it convinced me that "open list" is better than STV. :-)

alan,
@alan@subdued.social avatar

@woody open list is pretty good too. But for me STV is still best because it doesn't even require parties to exist. You can still get PR that matches the electorate's perspectives, factions, vibes, etc, which might might be cross-cutting across parties in other cases.

The downside to STV that open list doesn't have is that there's a practical limit on the size of districts and number of candidates before the ranked ballot gets too complicated.

alan, to random
@alan@subdued.social avatar

Yesterday the Fair Representation Act was re-introduced in Congress! This reform will stop gerrymandering and make the House of Representatives more competitive and more responsive to voters.

Learn more from here: https://fairvote.org/our-reforms/fair-representation-act/

And contact your representatives and ask them to support the !

https://p2a.co/ZraNU5n

InkySchwartz,
@InkySchwartz@mastodon.social avatar

@alan I would rather we go back to something closer the representation proportions of 1920 of about 200,000 per representative and that would give my valley 4 not 1. Instead of this which would roll us into a much more conservative area and give us one rep.

Though the current number in the house is capped by law.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2018/05/31/u-s-population-keeps-growing-but-house-of-representatives-is-same-size-as-in-taft-era/

alan,
@alan@subdued.social avatar

@InkySchwartz What valley are you in? This proposal would roll you up with some adjacent areas and give you more than one rep.

Simply increasing the number of reps but maintaining single-member districts is underwhelming. Just look at the smaller districts in state legislatures and you can see that they're just as easily gerrymandered, just as often stuck with unresponsive incumbents who can't be defeated, and still completely locks out third parties. A bigger house solves basically nothing.

alan, to random
@alan@subdued.social avatar

New research from : elections benefit candidates and voters of color.

  • Candidates of color benefit from the RCV counting process, gaining more support as lower-performing candidates are eliminated.
  • RCV allows several candidates of color to run in the same race without “splitting the vote.”
  • Voters of color tend to rank more candidates than White voters.

https://fairvote.org/report/communities-of-color-2024/

paige, to random
@paige@canadiancivil.com avatar

I love how low-key awesome Portland, Maine is at explaining .
In the end, if you want to pop the hood you can. But that line is all most people need to know.

cjm, to random
@cjm@pnw.zone avatar

Great new article from the Sightline Institute about and the
WA Legislature this session.

The new bill (HB 2250 - The Washington VOICES Act) has been introduced and addresses some new developments in the state.

Read more here

https://www.sightline.org/2024/01/09/with-ranked-choice-voting-coming-to-washington-state-its-time-to-coordinate-rollout

cdarwin, to random
@cdarwin@c.im avatar

In Arizona, Idaho, Pennsylvania, Oregon and Nevada initiatives are afoot to institute ✅ non-partisan primary elections, some involving ranked choice voting

Whereas Ohio Republicans are seeking to ❌ close their state's primaries


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/states-considering-primary-election-changes-2024-rcna129736

petersuber, to USpolitics
@petersuber@fediscience.org avatar

"Out-of-state, conservative organizations lead charge to ban ranked choice voting in Ohio."
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/state/out-of-state-conservative-organizations-lead-charge-to-ban-ranked-choice-voting-in-ohio

PS: are forgetting that the hurts too, not just . For example, in 1992 Ross Perot took votes from GHW Bush and swung the election to Bill Clinton. Perot won 18.9% of the popular vote, letting Clinton win with only 43%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_States_presidential_election

cdarwin, to Arizona
@cdarwin@c.im avatar

With U.S. democracy plagued by extremism, polarization, and a growing disconnect between voters and lawmakers, a set of reforms that could dramatically upend how Americans vote is gaining momentum at surprising speed in Western states.

🔸Ranked choice voting🔸, which asks voters to rank multiple candidates in order of preference, has seen its profile steadily expand since 2016, when Maine became the first state to adopt it.

But increasingly, is being paired with a new system for primaries known as 🔸Final Five 🔸— or in some cases, Final Four — that advances multiple candidates, regardless of party, to the general election.

Alaska, the only state currently using "RCV-plus-Final Four or Final-Five", appears to be seeing some benefits to its political culture already:
After years of partisan rancor, both legislative chambers are now controlled by bipartisan majorities eager to find common ground and respond to the needs of voters, say lawmakers in the state who have embraced the new system.

A slew of other states could soon follow in Alaska’s footsteps. Last year, voters approved a constitutional amendment that would create an RCV-plus-Final-Five system — for the measure to take effect, voters must approve it again next year.

Efforts also are underway to get RCV-plus-Final-Five on ’s 2024 ballot, and RCV-plus-Final-Four in and — where organizers announced Wednesday that they’ve gathered 50,000 signatures (they need around 63,000 to qualify).

Even Republicans, who in the redistricting sphere have fought reform efforts tooth and nail, in December held a hearing for bipartisan legislation that would create RCV-plus-Final-Five, though its prospects appear dim.

Meanwhile, voters will decide next year whether to adopt RCV alone.

And this year, and lawmakers passed bills to study RCV, while approved a measure that allows local governments to use it.

There are even flickers of interest at the level.

In December alone, two leading Washington, D.C. think tanks that often find themselves on opposite sides — the conservative 🔹American Enterprise Institute 🔹and the liberal 🔹Center for American Progress 🔹— each held separate panel discussions that considered RCV-plus-Final-Four/Five.

👉 Katherine Gehl, the founder of the 🔹Institute for Political Innovation, 🔹and the designer of the Final Four/Five system, calls RCV-plus-Final-Five “transformational.” (Her organization now says advancing five candidates to the general works best, by giving voters more choices.)

“There’s a huge pressure on reformers to say, this is not a silver bullet,” said Gehl. “And OK, I get that.”

But, she added, “I think it’s as close to a silver bullet as you can come.”

https://wausaupilotandreview.com/2023/12/26/how-a-new-way-to-vote-is-gaining-traction-in-states-and-could-transform-us-politics/

vibrezrugby, to random French
@vibrezrugby@mastodon.social avatar

Pro D2: Vannes reprend sa marche en avant en balayant Agen http://dlvr.it/Sz04hG

bilbo_le_hobbit,
@bilbo_le_hobbit@mamot.fr avatar

@vibrezrugby les ravages du réchauffement climatique, le rugby s'étend maintenant jusqu'en Bretagne...

petersuber, (edited ) to random
@petersuber@fediscience.org avatar
williamgunn,
@williamgunn@mastodon.social avatar

@petersuber Agree RCV is better, but I do have to say I appreciate the spoiler effect in this particular case.

Funny Waynes World GIF

alan, to pnw
@alan@subdued.social avatar

Hey and folks! Join us at the happy hour at Stones Throw Brewery in Fairhaven tonight (Thursday Sep 28) at 5:45pm! Learn about with our friendly local activists! https://www.mobilize.us/fairvotewa/event/583327/

Andres4NY, to random
@Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it avatar

I boosted this last night, but I'm doing it again because it was so interesting (albeit long): https://fosstodon.org/@tcely/110705153826062120

Click through to start the video at 1:13:00 or so (to skip right to the RCV problems).

I'm now a fan of . The part where Alameda County screwed up their counts and actually seated the wrong candidate, discovering their fuck up a month later is just.. wow.

dougdougdoug,
@dougdougdoug@mastodon.social avatar

@Andres4NY Good to see discussion about this, but it’s just not true that there’s anything inherent in that requires a single point of failure or that causes delays in counting votes. Jurisdictions have been holding back second- and third- (etc.) place votes just to make things appear simpler. But there is a limited number of permutations of ballots in any election, and computers are perfectly capable of recording and reporting on each.

dougdougdoug, to oregon
@dougdougdoug@mastodon.social avatar

Great that voters will have an opportunity to adopt for local and statewide primary and general elections in 2024. One thing I'm afraid they're overlooking: The Presidential electors chosen by need to be freed up to vote for their assigned candidate OR a different candidate, perhaps one chosen by their assigned candidate. Otherwise OR voters would fear that voting for a third-party candidate would deprive their preferred major-party candidate of electoral votes.

dougdougdoug,
@dougdougdoug@mastodon.social avatar

voters should support the referendum. But, if OR law obligates Presidential electors to cast their votes in the Electoral College for their assigned candidate, the OR legislature should fix that after the referendum passes.
https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2023R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2004/Enrolled

thezerobit, to oregon
@thezerobit@anticapitalist.party avatar

I'm a huge fan of . Apparently, it's going to be on the ballot in Oregon in November 2024, and will apply to all statewide and federal elections including primaries. It's a huge boost for democracy, as it allows people to move past the party duopoly of Dem/GOP and vote for 3rd party candidates without fear of giving the election away to the greater of 2 evils.

Fun fact, I helped with the campaign to get passed in Benton County, Oregon in 2016.

wjmaggos,
@wjmaggos@liberal.city avatar

@thezerobit

I like what they do in Alaska. the primary of every race is totally open, you just vote for your favorite candidate. Then the general is RCV among the top five vote getters in the primary.

https://time.com/6112318/american-democracy-final-five-voting/

Andres4NY, to nyc
@Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it avatar

Ugh, I hate in person in so much.

The (paper) voter guide only lists my city council candidates. It does not list civil court judges or anyone else who might be on the ballot. You have to know to go to NYC DOE's website, go to "find my pollsite/view sample ballot" so see who's actually on the ballot.

You've gotta do this in advance of going to your poll site, and then (w/ ) memorize the order you want to vote for candidates in.

So stupid. Just universal , please!

Andres4NY,
@Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it avatar

@meelar Oh! I didn't realize, thanks.

EDIT: see, the sample ballot doesn't show which is RCV and which isn't. I otherwise wouldn't have known until I entered the booth. Fuck this system.

enobacon,
@enobacon@urbanists.social avatar

@Andres4NY @meelar at least it's just a question of throwing your vote away, not left wondering at which stage of the RCV "IRV shell game of a counting method" it gets thrown away for you.

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