(my previous go-to video was by the inimitable CGP Grey, and it's still great if you want more details about the mechanics of STV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8XOZJkozfI)
"in a true democracy, you have more than 2 parties."
yes! with ranked choice voting. not with fptp and duverger's law
we have ranked choice in nyc, maine, etc. mostly through democratic efforts while GOP engages in voter suppression. we get more #rcv by voting #democrat and demanding they deliver
and that is how you get genuine viable third parties
not the current spoiler role that is all that third parties perform in our current system
@interfluidity no mention of #rankedChoice?
Wouldn't having three choices be just as good? Approval voting, as you have described it, still involves a binary approve/disapprove, and I am afraid it would not be enough to break up the parties. Just more candidates divided along the same lines? I want to avoid that binary choice.
I would add to #rcv a single vote against someone, to be counted along with first choices, increasing the likelihood that a first choice winner would not be divisive.
Yesterday the Fair Representation Act was re-introduced in Congress! This reform will stop gerrymandering and make the House of Representatives more competitive and more responsive to voters.
but a 2 party system is locked in because of #FPTP voting. 3rd parties can never dominate: duverger's law. a 3rd party vote is self-destruction of your own interests
#usa#americans: ranked choice is slowly creeping in, mostly spearheaded by #democrats. so who are you going to #vote for if you want robust 3rd parties?
I love how low-key awesome Portland, Maine is at explaining #RCV.
In the end, if you want to pop the hood you can. But that line is all most people need to know.
We need to get over the idea that voting is a way for us to express our personal ideals. Voting is one move in a chess game that never ends—one each voter plays with a hundred million other voters. You can't win on the first move, and if you're in a bad board position it may take a long time to get out of it. (Narrator voice: we're in a bad board position, in many ways.)
If you don't play, though, or don't make alliances with other players, you're likely to lose. Losing now will be very bad.
#RCV is having a pretty big surge of support lately so there is hope that it will reach a tipping point soon.
Spreading the word and supporting local efforts for adoption helps us get there.
Not the biggest fan of HRW these days but even they know Houthis are attacking civilian ships along with commercial vessels.
Biden can only do so much. But all of our NATO allies transport goods through the lanes. Using our military to stop them is not "expanding the conflict." It is stopping terrorists from killing innocent sailors and civilians and from disrupting the world economy.
@colo_lee@GreenFire@TonyStark@72mz@ArenaCops#RCV would let me vote my heart and my mind.
It would also end third parties' power to be spoilers, leaving them nothing but also-rans, maybe not a net gain for their adherents.
My hope for #RCV is that it would increase 3rd party clout without spoiling outcomes. A Democratic candidate who can see her victory resulted from being the 2nd choice of a big bloc of Greens might actually govern accordingly.
In Arizona, Idaho, Pennsylvania, Oregon and Nevada initiatives are afoot to institute ✅ non-partisan primary elections, some involving ranked choice voting
Whereas Ohio Republicans are seeking to ❌ close their state's primaries
@martinvermeer@accretionist@zout@randahl Totally agree on #RCV. I use use it with my students to set deadlines and test dates… On the surface it seems like a bit of fun, but my purpose is deadly serious.
@accretionist@zout@randahl a quibble: the Netherlands uses party-list proportional representation, which is a more “pure” form of proportional representation than #RCV in that you’re voting for party slates, not individuals. But your point about the left being divided is definitely correct, no matter the election system. It’s just worse by far in FPTP systems like the US, UK or Canada. I’d personally rather have #PartyListPR in part or in full tbh
With U.S. democracy plagued by extremism, polarization, and a growing disconnect between voters and lawmakers, a set of reforms that could dramatically upend how Americans vote is gaining momentum at surprising speed in Western states.
🔸Ranked choice voting🔸, which asks voters to rank multiple candidates in order of preference, has seen its profile steadily expand since 2016, when Maine became the first state to adopt it.
But increasingly, #RCV is being paired with a new system for primaries known as 🔸Final Five 🔸— or in some cases, Final Four — that advances multiple candidates, regardless of party, to the general election.
Alaska, the only state currently using "RCV-plus-Final Four or Final-Five", appears to be seeing some benefits to its political culture already:
After years of partisan rancor, both legislative chambers are now controlled by bipartisan majorities eager to find common ground and respond to the needs of voters, say lawmakers in the state who have embraced the new system.
A slew of other states could soon follow in Alaska’s footsteps. Last year, #Nevada voters approved a constitutional amendment that would create an RCV-plus-Final-Five system — for the measure to take effect, voters must approve it again next year.
Efforts also are underway to get RCV-plus-Final-Five on #Arizona’s 2024 ballot, and RCV-plus-Final-Four in #Colorado and #Idaho — where organizers announced Wednesday that they’ve gathered 50,000 signatures (they need around 63,000 to qualify).
Even #Wisconsin Republicans, who in the redistricting sphere have fought reform efforts tooth and nail, in December held a hearing for bipartisan legislation that would create RCV-plus-Final-Five, though its prospects appear dim.
Meanwhile, #Oregon voters will decide next year whether to adopt RCV alone.
And this year, #Minnesota and #Illinois lawmakers passed bills to study RCV, while #Connecticut approved a measure that allows local governments to use it.
There are even flickers of interest at the #national level.
In December alone, two leading Washington, D.C. think tanks that often find themselves on opposite sides — the conservative 🔹American Enterprise Institute 🔹and the liberal 🔹Center for American Progress 🔹— each held separate panel discussions that considered RCV-plus-Final-Four/Five.
👉 Katherine Gehl, the founder of the 🔹Institute for Political Innovation, 🔹and the designer of the Final Four/Five system, calls RCV-plus-Final-Five “transformational.” (Her organization now says advancing five candidates to the general works best, by giving voters more choices.)
“There’s a huge pressure on reformers to say, this is not a silver bullet,” said Gehl. “And OK, I get that.”
But, she added, “I think it’s as close to a silver bullet as you can come.”
@peterdrake It does help (though I could go into why that’s not necessarily a “help” in the broader view) in splits where the spoiler pulls only a tiny amount of the vote, like Nader did. It would have helped in Portland’s 2020 mayoral race, too. But #RCV is prone to fail in situations where there are more than two real contenders.
@jacksantucci Some propose splitting the county into 4-5 districts and electing a board member from each. That could help and would be consistent with your advice, but small and equal districts would be hard to draw in this geographically small county. Wouldn’t county-wide multi-winner #STV with #RCV (3 or more at a time) be best? (2/?)
@jacksantucci How do we get there, though? It seems to me that instituting #RankedChoiceVoting first is a step that makes other steps easier. Get voters and office-holders used to that. Voters get it. I really don’t think it’s expecting too much of them. Later introduce multi-winner or some other reform that makes the whole body produce better outcomes.
Doing it all at once might be better but isn’t realistic. A benefit of advocating #RCV is that it helps, at least a little bit.
6% of six states (www.axios.com)
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The two party system is broken (lemmy.zip)
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