@kaplag Solid take. Obviously, I don’t know anymore than you do. But if I had to make a guess, I’d say the Vision Pro will get lighter and lighter and continue to add both features and content. And, presumably, there will come a day when two people or a group of people can share the experience more than simply being on the same FaceTime call.
@davemark Imagine proposing a movie night with a bunch of friends. How many groups of people today could get everyone invited to bring their Mac laptop or iPad to the party? I'd be kind of inconvenient for 4-5 people to all lug these devices to a friend's.
Apple Vision Pro seems more like a platform akin to those devices.
The only tech I know of where a bunch of people could get together and all have a device on them is a smartphone. Even then it might be a mix and have android devices.
Der Ausverkauf beginnt, wer möchte gerne eine, aber Achtung keine EU-Garantie. Da kommen bei mir so einige Fragezeichen auf wenn ich das in einem Schweizer Mitarbeiter Shop vergünstigt kaufen könnte.
The sale is starting, who would like one, but beware, no EU guarantee. This raises a few question marks for me if I could buy it at a discount in a Swiss staff store. #Apple#VisionPro
Apple’s industry-defining products made it the juggernaut it is today. But as iPhone sales continue to stagnate and the Vision Pro vastly underperforms, the company’s long-term prospects look increasingly dicey.
@parismarx i agree yeah, he wouldn't have dutifully hoed the "just make it bigger / thinner / more horsepower" status quo row like cook has. but he might've also been more irrationally committed to something like the car project. regardless, he was due for a miss at some point.
@jplebreton i’m sure he would’ve had some big ones! they still had failed services during the 2000s boom period, and the TV project that never really came to fruition as he wanted.
I filed a feedback about my erratic eye tracking on my #VisionPro and got some useful information:
“Unfortunately, the artificial lenses that are implanted during a Cataract surgery can sometimes cause interference with Apple Vision Pro’s eye tracking. This can manifest in unstable, or erratic tracking and highlighting.”
@steveriggins Soubds frustrating, but at least they know ofnit and know what the problem exactly is. So this could potentially be fixed in a revision or maybe even with Software.
Thoughts after Apple iPad event with implications for #VisionPro: Today, Apple positioned iPad and VisionPro for professional use, including movie production and sound editing (e.g., FinalCut & Logic Pro on the iPad), and training (VisionPro). They also updated the Apple Pencil. Here's an exciting idea:
An issue to some with Vision Pro has been the lack of strong integration of hand controllers, especially compared to more gaming-centric headsets. For serious use of VisionPro's initial major pro app, Excel, I think it helps to use a physical keyboard and trackpad, which it does support. But that's not rich enough for many more advanced uses.
I think in the not-too-distant future we’ll see the iPad integrated with VisionPro like the Mac started, if not more so. You’ll use an iPad, perhaps with a Magic Keyboard, and the new Apple Pencil Pro for professional-level control. Having both a pencil, with squeeze, twirl, haptic-feedback, hover, etc., along with the current full-motion hand and arm movement in 3D-space, gives you the start of a very rich and precise way of interacting with spatial computing. Moving on the hard iPad surface could be quite superior to waving something in the air or using a joystick. The Mac is not for using a pen, but the iPad is. I’m thinking long-term, not just the current headset. The videos they showed of their pro-apps on iPad, and the VisionPro update which included touting a film director using it to oversee the editing and visual effects for an upcoming film, hinted towards this convergence to me. I wonder if it's true.
Reading some comments, I think I wasn't clear enough about the role of the iPad. I was assuming the pen would normally manipulate things you see elsewhere, not under it. Like a mouse. The iPad could add context, but especially to add electronics and computing power to interact with the pen, and an appropriate surface on which to move the pen.
I really like my #VisionPro and still use it all the time, but I think Apple missed the boat a bit. The Meta Raybans are a more practical face computer.
If Apple had created sunglasses that had a decent camera, Apple Music/Podcasts, and Siri built in for $300, it probably would have been a massive success.
#Apple#VisionPro#AR#VR#BigTech: "The concept of the Vision Pro might have excited some developers in an Apple lab in Cupertino, but most people are never going to use computers in the way those engineers and their managers imagined. Before the 14-day return window closed, there were plenty of reports of people heading back to the Apple store or popping their headsets back in the post to get their money back. They bought into the hype, they tried the new thing, and they ultimately realized it wasn’t worth it. That’s now being reflected in the sales numbers.
Apple initially had a sales target of 3 million Vision Pro units in its first year, but slowly revised that number down to 900,000. When the product was released, estimates pegged initial sales at around 200,000 units, though it’s not clear how many of those were returned. Even people who kept their devices have recently been sharing on social media that they rarely use them anymore. It was no surprise on Tuesday when Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo reported Apple had slashed Vision Pro production even before its international launch, expecting to sell as little as 400,000 units this year. Kuo also suggested a cheaper version had been pushed beyond 2025, if the company makes one at all.
For some companies, selling 400,000 units would be a major achievement. But for a company like Apple that sells well over 200 million iPhones every year, along with tens of millions of Macs and iPads, it’s nowhere near the success they need it to be to justify the resources that went into it. And it’s looking ever more likely it will never get there."
Apple’s Vision Pro is a bad product with an even worse vision for the future of computation.
New sales numbers prove it’s a failure, but more than that it shows the idea of tech’s inevitability is a myth. We have the collective power to stop tech that doesn’t serve us.
Building on what I was saying in this piece, Bloomberg reports:
“One [Apple Store] employee says they haven’t seen one Vision Pro purchase in weeks and that the number of returns equaled the device’s sales in the first month that it was available.”