Cities Skylines 2 lackluster launch can be mostly attributed to the growing pains of a small studio.
It was probably never possible for a small studio like Colossal Order to deliver a fully functional successor from scratch when they were adding features for 10 years CS1 in parallel.
The only way it would've worked was if they could have used the same code in CS2. But clearly, they weren't able to, as it's missing most of the DLCs they built for CS1.
@Ciantic It sounds like it is an Early Access, just not called that. The fans I know are quite happy with this - e.g. have bought it but will sit for a year before seriously playing it.
@frabcus It feels and plays like an early-access game. It was not marketed that way and that is a big problem. It raised the expectations through the roof, which is the issue.
However, I do think they will recover, as there is no competition. AAA studios are busy making their FPS games, and the simulation genre seems to be a niche.
I think they wrote a deal with Paradox to deliver it by X-date, and can't admit it was unfinished to not break the contract. Making communication very awkward.
@schizanon Something that kind of bugs me about CS1/2 is that there’s no way a city of 100k has a bunch of skyscrapers. But it’s also pretty much impossible to have a city of a 1 million or more.
#CitesSkylines2 is less like a sequel to #CitiesSkylines and more like a QoL patch with a fancy shader/texture mod where random features and systems have been drastically (and somewhat badly) rewritten.
Shout-out to the dev who had to make the old fishing boat mechanic work for garbage trucks, it's a nice touch, but garbage dumps are deletable now?
Honestly, I pirated #CitiesSkylines2 and I feel a little ripped off.
It's just mostly just #CitiesSkylines with more realistic cars and human shaders.
There are a few QoL improvements that probably make it worth a buy; like being able to buy smaller squares of land, or how water pipes run under streets now.
In general my goal is always to max out the population until it brings the simulation to a crawl.
In #CitiesSkylines that's hard to do because it actually limits you to a certain number of citizen simulations internally. The population can keep going up but the internal representation stays the same.
Et vous, vous êtes plutôt bulldozer dans la ville ou tût-tût à travers le monde ? @yannrdr et @alexleserveur évoquent Cities: Skylines II et le DLC (enfin complet) de Mario Kart 8 Deluxe dans le 113e numéro de La Cartouche !
Je ne peux plus jouer à #CitiesSkylines sur macOS car leur putain de launcher imposé, qui n'a aucune utilisé à part afficher de la publicité, plante.
Ça me saoule d’une force !
@SpaceCube
Ben c'est nul, mais ça fonctionne apparemment de réinstaller. 😅
J'étais à deux doigts de réparer le lavevaisselle HS et d'aller acheter des bottes pour faire le jardin.
Choices ! 🤷♂️
Was messing around with the Steam profile showcases and apparently my rarest achievements are all from parks and other natural resources in #CitiesSkylines
That... makes sense. I've been saying my litmus test for whether or not I'll like a game is whether I can plant flowers.
But also only 0.6% players have made an entire nature reserve? That feels unlikely.
@thecrushedviolet When I saw a big long video advertising Starfield before it came out, I 100% focused on the part where they showed you can add a greenhouse to any planet base you build and got all excited about it :GrinLotje: I have not played the game enough to find out if you can actually do that, though!
A quick preview of what you can expect in tomorrow's Cities: Skylines II - Azure Delta episode, "The 6 Ps"!
In the episode we develop a new medium-high density mixed use area, a new suburb and an industrial area based around the rail yard we placed down last week - we also work on some fixes from last week's comments! #Screenshots#CitiesSkylines#CitiesSkylines2#VideoGames#ShareYourGames
#citiesskylines2 I think I figured out how to satisfy low density residential demand in the game. It basically operates on the concept of Induced Demand. Just like adding a lane to a highway incentivizes people to use the highway more, leading to the same congestion problems. If you constantly zone low density residential in an attempt to "chase the demand bar," what you're doing is increasing the supply of houses. Meaning, driving down the COST of housing. Meaning more citizens can afford a house, meaning they buy up that supply, so they demand more... it's a feedback loop, like acquiescing to a child who only ever wants to eat chocolate.
So, counterintuitively, you need to IGNORE their demand. By keeping the supply constant, and with demand increasing, the cost of the housing goes up. This prices out some of your citizens, and so they will begin demanding lower-cost options. Enter, medium density housing. You start with row housing, then medium density, then mixed-use. This doesn't happen fast, let alone instantly, so you kind of have to plan this strategy from the founding of your city. At one point I had a 15k pop with almost exclusive demand for medium density housing.
As your citizens get more educated through college and university levels, they'll be able to afford those suburbs again, and the demand will return. But they'll also be young enough that living "in the big city" will be desirable and they'll start demanding high density apartments close to shops and offices. Beware the Low Rent zoning type! Despite being high density, if your citizens are too well educated and make too much money, they'll abandon these buildings the moment they can afford nicer places. But I guess they're a good stopgap measure between medium density and regular high density.
So Induced Demand is a double edged sword: you want to avoid inducing demand for low density suburbs, and purposely induce demand for higher densities.
Wenn euch das neue #CitiesSkylines auch zu buggy ist, kann ich euch empfehlen, mal #OpenstreetMap zu bearbeiten. Macht mindestens genauso viel Spaß und gibt genau so viel zu tun. :ablobcatderpy:
I'm conflicted seeing some of the angst about Cities Skylines 2 graphics issues but at least this delve into things gives some context. Given how incredible some of it looked in the leadup, the incredibly high demands on GPUs seems expected and they'll probably figure it out given a little time. https://youtu.be/l4DX6mUY78s?si=UNsz_4UMMPQBMwL6#citiesskylines
@lindhartsen YouTubers love making videos about recently released games because it gets them tons of views. A few months later the game gets patched and they make another video about how "it's about time!"
Buncha non-contributing zeroes that can't wait for it to get back from SPACE!
Cities Skylines II release is in 28 days, do you think it worth to buy the ultimate edition right now? At this point there's only one map unlocking from buying it, but wouldn't there be users maps anyways?...
@Kiloku eles liberaram jogar até o 4o. Nível da cidade. Sem falar que todas as cidades que apareceram em trailer até agora foram feitas por esses Youtubers que tão postando vídeo agora.
It's been a while since I've really dug into the modding scene and I probably should clean out my steam workshop subscriptions list. Here's a few of the big mods that I have, am I missing anything new?...
