TikTok

Luis_Fierro,
@Luis_Fierro@mastodon.online avatar

Bytedance dice que no venderá en EEUU; por ende, se cerrará.

BREAKING: Reuters reports that TikTok's owner ByteDance would prefer to 'shut down' its app in the US rather than sell it if all legal options are exhausted

https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1783581855226441919?s=46

br00t4c,
@br00t4c@mastodon.social avatar

TikTok's last dance? The lobbying showdown over the app's future in the U.S. continues

http://opensecrets.org/news/2024/04/tiktoks-last-dance-the-lobbying-showdown-over-the-apps-future-in-the-u-s-continues

VeroniqueB99,
@VeroniqueB99@mastodon.social avatar

@br00t4c ..so what's the consensus if it's banned? Where will the people goooo?!🤣 😱

matthew,
@matthew@social.retroedge.tech avatar

Good for them for standing their ground and not caving to pressure to sell.

Weird situation all around, as the ban really doesn't mean anything with over 200 days to appeal and no action taken to keep American people from using TikTok in the meantime.

RT: https://noauthority.social/users/WakWak/statuses/112335151252713589

publiclewdness,
@publiclewdness@gameliberty.club avatar

@matthew

@WakWak

I hate censorship as much as I hate Tiktok. Damn the government for making me side with Tiktok.

PamelaDrew,
@PamelaDrew@gigaohm.bio avatar

Side note EFF has been at the front of this fight forever & led the fight for HTTPS everywhere. Love them big time and best source for related details as well as privacy tools for everyone from basic users to 1337 infosec boffins! https://ssd.eff.org/ https://www.eff.org/pages/tools

obeto,
@obeto@mas.to avatar

Interesting: would rather shut down than divest.

That's the move of a firm with nothing to hide, y'all.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/bytedance-prefers-tiktok-shutdown-us-if-legal-options-fail-sources-say-2024-04-25/

obeto,
@obeto@mas.to avatar

I have just been informed by "Someone Who Knows":

"Just confirmed that the TikTok app can both keep your device turned on and will automatically start itself when the device restarts.

So it's more persistent than a TSR."

That, my fellow Earthlings, is pretty fucked up! 🤬 🤬 🤬

ArtSmart,
@ArtSmart@mas.to avatar

I wonder if much of the U.S. campus unrest about might be deliberately whipped up by and other social media algorithms to soften support for among young voters.

(My own position is that is utterly responsible for the October 7th atrocities. However, has stupidly fallen into their trap. is creating orders of magnitude more terrorists than they're killing. Today's Gaza children will grow up with seething hatred and thirst for revenge.)

Your thoughts?

LightFIAR,
@LightFIAR@med-mastodon.com avatar

@ArtSmart I think people of all ages and backgrounds around the world see fascist Likud committing a horrific genocide against a population comprised of a huge percentage of children. People are horrified while Joe Biden has BELLIGERENTLY and persistently armed and funded that effort since the beginning til this very day. And BLOCKED ceasefire efforts. Biden's support is "softening" entirely because of what he is doing.

chiraag,
@chiraag@mastodon.online avatar

@ArtSmart Nah. People are fed up with backing a genocide. We don't need TikTok propaganda to tell us what we can see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears. We don't need propaganda to know that Genocide Joe has stood by Bibi the Butcher and provided him the weapons to massacre Palestinians.

Not everything has to connect back to a Russian or Chinese conspiracy. Sometimes awful people are held accountable for doing awful things.

matthew,
@matthew@social.retroedge.tech avatar

So, anyone know how this ban is going to be enforced? Or attempted to be enforced?

I'm guessing government forced removal from mobile app stores, but then what about people who already have the app? Or who side-load it on their Android phones. Or use a web app?

Great firewall of the USA?

RT: https://newsie.social/users/LALegault/statuses/112329517626029107

matthew,
@matthew@social.retroedge.tech avatar
danie10,
@danie10@mastodon.social avatar

@matthew a US ban is better than a US purchase, though, for a perspective outside of the USA. Having the US control all the mainstream social media is not diversity...

pmarrone,
@pmarrone@mastodon.social avatar

It seems like #tiktok uses #HTTP to distribute its videos. What type of heavy lift might it be to create a #fediverse alternative in the wake of the #tiktokban? Asking for my friends. Please RT.

benroyce,
@benroyce@mastodon.social avatar

@pmarrone

a alternative is being built:

@loops

for those going "Tiktok is for class solidarity..." (someone wrote this crap to me!)

motherf***er tiktok is co-owned by Jeff Yass, the biggest donor

"crushing Tiktok is about stopping pro- protest organizing..."

you f***ing dingbat, Jeff Yass used Tiktok money to fund an rightwing thinktank to try to corrupt the judiciary to keep in power

GET THE F*** OFF TIKTOK YOU AIRHEADS

stux,
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

How toxic is ?

In they have a different version of , Chinese users get to see different content compared to the rest of the world

And sure! bans everything that's just a little against their regime like mstdn.social for example but the thing is..

TikTok is a Chinese based company with the CCP keeping an close eye. And not only on the "Chinese data" 😉

lippyduck,
@lippyduck@mstdn.social avatar

@stux Yes, and as I wrote elsewhere just now, whatever data protection our own laws afford us will be very much harder to enforce in China. Cf. copyright.
https://mstdn.social/@lippyduck/112331553906374379

vallmikhaleff,
@vallmikhaleff@mstdn.social avatar

@stux Every Chinese product that has the ability to connect to the internet by default is a surveillance tool. Me personally I never use software or hardware produced in China.

The last time when I was there customs officers required to unlock my phone and connect some device to it and I am completely unaware of what they did to it. Luckily little did they know that it was my second phone, where no personal or financial data was stored. I ditch that phone immediately afterward.

mcfly, German
@mcfly@milliways.social avatar

has to be sold becuase its under influence of a foreign government.

Do the americans realize that that's the same for the rest of the world with their stuff and better does not make the round?

Nearly every other social media company is under the influence of the US government and their hairy shitty laws.

sofia,
@sofia@chaos.social avatar

@mcfly nationalists aren't rational.

orava,
@orava@ruhr.social avatar

@mcfly yeah let's lobby for an EU law that forces meta to sell Instagram and Facebook to an EU company. 😅

EighthLayer,
@EighthLayer@mstdn.games avatar

Imagine the US banning before guns. 🤦‍♂️

EighthLayer,
@EighthLayer@mstdn.games avatar

@theLUCASTDS Wtf really?! That’s insane.

thegamerstavern,
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lauren,
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org avatar

The TikTok Ban, Joe Biden, and SATAN!

The ban -- which will likely face years of litigation and may be ultimately turned down by U.S. courts (as it should be) on first amendment and other grounds, reminds me of another dark episode of bipartisan madness decades ago.

Back in the 1980s in particular, "satanic cult" scares spread across the country, the media, and politicians of both parties. Innumerable lives were ruined as innocent people were imprisoned for long periods based on much the same nonsense as during the Salem Witch Trials of the 17th century. The lack of actual evidence in both cases didn't stop the panic.

While the TikTok ban shouldn't force innocent people into prison or result in them being burned at the stake, many lives that are dependent on income related to TikTok would be negatively affected, and a popular communications medium for a vast number of Americans would be cut off -- while the lack of actual evidence to support such drastic actions is glaring.

There is also much hypocrisy in play. Even as President Biden signed the ban, his campaign apparently plans to continue using TikTok! Not a good look Joe. Not good at all. That's the kind of thing we expect from Trump. You're better than that. -L

lauren,
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@koteisaev Show the evidence! There is NONE relating to TikTok that I've ever seen. On the other hand, look at the dangerous disinformation spewing from Twitter/X! That's the REAL danger, not China!

kkeller,
@kkeller@curling.social avatar

@jonahstein @lauren US residents who are TikTok users also have First Amendment rights.

If the issue were "national security", Congress could ban TikTok on federal devices and networks.

If the issue were "misinformation campaigns", Congress could pass bills regulating misinformation on all platforms.

Thus, the issue seems to be "Congress doesn't like TikTok". That isn't sufficient to cut off US residents from it.

kurtsh,
@kurtsh@mastodon.social avatar

TikTok's lack of transparency about what data they suck out of user's phones - not just the TikTok app - was asking for the banhammer.

The fact that they STILL won't disclose what data is uploaded, even with this ban, tells you all you need to know about how badly the app violates user privacy.

My bet is they collect & send text msgs, contacts, emails, app logs, pwd hashes, other social details.

"Biden signs ban into law — here’s what happens next" - Polygon
https://www.polygon.com/24139127/tiktok-ban-law-biden-timeline

ViolaB, German
@ViolaB@mastodon.social avatar
ViolaB,
@ViolaB@mastodon.social avatar

damit keine*r von euch sagen kann haben wir nicht gewusst und so schlimm ist das gar nicht, oder so.

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lety,
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MAKE 👏 👏 A 👏 PWA

lety,
@lety@doesstuff.social avatar

@shalien I don't use TikTok anymore. What's the opposite of the “royal we”? The “common my”? That's how I was using it.

Even if I don't use TikTok, they shouldn't be allowed to collect Bluetooth data, which exposes the identities and locations of everyone in a room with even just a single TikTok user.

Broadly, apps not specifically distributed for the primary advertised purpose of location tracking shouldn't have this permission, but apps owned by governments that use extrajudicial task forces to hunt down Muslims especially shouldn't have this permission.

shalien,
@shalien@projetretro.io avatar

@lety What you"re asking is, that peoples actually read and try to understand what are permissions required for on mobile devices and how they can be used.

But funny videos are better than a few lines of text, no ?

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