"We Need To Rewild The Internet"
An absolutely excellent read (and great analogy) by @mariafarrell and @robin Probably the best piece I've read all year.
I often struggle to think of a term for "appearing messy from a distance is often, on a human scale, healthy actually." Comparing the social web to an ecosystem is exactly it.
«It is not just one of the famous social media bubbles, but a system of interconnected aquariums, each with different populations, temperatures, salinity and pH, and represents a model of socialization and global governance in which administrators have structured rules of coexistence that implement the ban on the intolerant theorized by Karl Popper»
> a protocol needs to achieve two things: it needs to prevent the accumulation of power imbalances between parties … and it needs to make it easy for users to cooperate in building the the rules they want for how the protocol's operation affects them … the success of decentralisation and … of a democratic digital world rides not only on liberation but also on organising.
@poVoq Agreed. It got me thinking. But feels almost entirely ideological, conflating social media (e.g. Twitter, Reddit) with “the digital world”.
Saying git is a “failed attempt at decentralisation” just because GitHub is popular misses that GitHub is less critical infrastructure than it would be if we only had CVS or Subversion.
I’m encouraged by incremental, practical decentralisation efforts outside of social media. It’s slow, kinda boring but it’s real and happening today.
@fediverse Let's face it. When talking about the Fediverse, it is very hard to sell interoperability between different types of instances as a major advantage.
@fediverse Again, maybe I was only very unlucky with the instances I chose to let my friends sign up for the Fediverse, but we really need to think on how to make this as effortless as possible for new users. Changing paradigm is not easy, making everyone grasp the underlying concepts of the Fediverse is not easy, increasing adoption is not easy. We can not rely on another Xpocalypse.
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@feditips@fediverse Is there a Fedi version of something like Facebook Groups? Social circles for a specific topic? Calckey looks like it has something similar but they are currently not federated and also I've found the platform in general to be very unstable.
I think the comparison is because the Friendica interface resembles Facebook's older interface from about 5-10 years ago, and it has features like photo albums and calendars.
@feditips Yea. Pretty much this is how it looks. An arguably better interface than the current one. There are also servers that have better looking themes, such as social.trom.tf/
I already tested posting to one group and (with a slight issue with replies) it seems to work fine. Now I'm interested to know what happens if I try to post to MULTIPLE groups at the same time, what happens then?
Oh, interesting! I haven’t gotten my head around Mastodon. It just seems like a huge mess, to me. Like, Twitter was a big enough mess on its own, and then Mastodon had to take Twitter and make it like 10x more complicated.
Yeah Mastadon feels like a monolithic mess to me, but probably I just don't understand how the tags work. Never used Twitter for that reason. In any case, Lemmy is a lot more in tune to my needs. Kbin might be good for me too and I looked at it a bit, but Lemmy seems to work better for me.
So startrek.website have cleaned out their spam bots. Looking at the graph of their user counts on #fedidb gives a sense of the time course of the #lemmy spam bot problem.
If you presume the same time course for lemmy as a whole (which fits, see here: https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse), lemmy’s true user count is somewhere between its June 18 and 19 numbers … ~200k, somewhere around Pixelfed/peertube territory.
Bigger instances might grow faster.
@fediversereport@fediversenews@fediverse Awesome for Android users and Lemmy!
For iOS users, Memmy is great and evolving fast (it’s in beta so only available through TestFlight for now).
This is a major downside to how federation works currently and something we shouldn't need extensions for, but as a stopgap solution I am glad they exist.
@liaizon@tchambers@fediverse Hundred percent agree we shouldn’t need these work arounds. However, it’s amazing the pace of change and how fast these issues are being resolved. Think about how long some of the issues continue to plague us on various platforms and tools from Apple Microsoft google and others.
@amart@tchambers@fediverse oh yeah I am super excited people are making these tools and working on ways to fix these problems. If we came together and worked collectively on some of these underlying issues it would be even more powerful.