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JustinH,
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"We Need To Rewild The Internet"
An absolutely excellent read (and great analogy) by @mariafarrell and @robin Probably the best piece I've read all year.

I often struggle to think of a term for "appearing messy from a distance is often, on a human scale, healthy actually." Comparing the social web to an ecosystem is exactly it.

https://www.noemamag.com/we-need-to-rewild-the-internet/

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Valmond,

Interesting!

I poked around in the (slightly verbose) documentation and stumbled onto this:

Servers should not re-use URIs, regardless of the mechanism by which resources are created. Certain specific cases exist where URIs may be reinstated when it identifies the same resource,

So I wonder if it has the same inbuilt limitation that IPFS has, which means you cannot just update the data you are sharing, without also having to create a whole new link (I know IPFS are trying to work around that, but have seen no decentralised solution yet).

I’ll poke around some more!

Thanks for the link, I hadn’t heard of them before.

Cheers

Valmond,

Now this is interesting, I know about Tor ofc, with all problems surrounding it (exit nodes etc) but I guess an onion website could be made well protected and shared & updated. You have to host it yourself though I guess.

Freenet, gotta dig down and see how it works under the surface, it looks very promising but it’s kind of complex and I haven’t yet figured out if it is all benevolent sharing for example and what happend if some random node sharing your stuff goes offline.

Very interesting!

I think (I’ll dig more to see if it stands) my advantage would be the redundancy (so the data always stays up and is hard to take down), the no need of benevolent nodes, and potentially the ease if use.

Thanks!

andrew,
@andrew@andrew.masto.host avatar

Mastodon establishes non-profit in the US, while Germany revokes their nonprofit status

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2024/04/mastodon-forms-new-u.s.-non-profit/

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poVoq,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

while Germany revokes their nonprofit status

For unknown reasons, and those tax authorities are pretty well know for revoking it wrongly.

andrew,
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yo_scottie_oh,
maegul,
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

Decent Decentralisation

https://berjon.com/decent-imaginaries/

Good counter to the focus on protocols.

> a protocol needs to achieve two things: it needs to prevent the accumulation of power imbalances between parties … and it needs to make it easy for users to cooperate in building the the rules they want for how the protocol's operation affects them … the success of decentralisation and … of a democratic digital world rides not only on liberation but also on organising.

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By @robin

otl,
@otl@hachyderm.io avatar

@poVoq Agreed. It got me thinking. But feels almost entirely ideological, conflating social media (e.g. Twitter, Reddit) with “the digital world”.

Saying git is a “failed attempt at decentralisation” just because GitHub is popular misses that GitHub is less critical infrastructure than it would be if we only had CVS or Subversion.

I’m encouraged by incremental, practical decentralisation efforts outside of social media. It’s slow, kinda boring but it’s real and happening today.

@fediverse

alcinnz, (edited )
@alcinnz@floss.social avatar

@maegul @fediverse Thanks @robin for the term "Google Search Fallacy"! I've been seeing variations upon it everywhere ...

Love this article!

(I've toyed with decentralized search before & quickly came to the conclusion that the way we commonly think about it is thoroughly misguided)

RookieNerd,

@fediverse Let's face it. When talking about the Fediverse, it is very hard to sell interoperability between different types of instances as a major advantage.

RookieNerd,

@fediverse From my experience I am having two main issues when talking with people about the Fediverse:

RookieNerd,

@fediverse Again, maybe I was only very unlucky with the instances I chose to let my friends sign up for the Fediverse, but we really need to think on how to make this as effortless as possible for new users. Changing paradigm is not easy, making everyone grasp the underlying concepts of the Fediverse is not easy, increasing adoption is not easy. We can not rely on another Xpocalypse.

I'm interested in discussing more about this.

neuraltimes,
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AudraTran,
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@feditips @fediverse Is there a Fedi version of something like Facebook Groups? Social circles for a specific topic? Calckey looks like it has something similar but they are currently not federated and also I've found the platform in general to be very unstable.

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@trashpanda_x/friendica @AudraTran

Friendica's groups are similar to Guppe or Chirp.

I think the comparison is because the Friendica interface resembles Facebook's older interface from about 5-10 years ago, and it has features like photo albums and calendars.

petrescatraian,

@feditips Yea. Pretty much this is how it looks. An arguably better interface than the current one. There are also servers that have better looking themes, such as social.trom.tf/

Is also able to create groups?

@trashpanda_x/friendica @AudraTran

ajsadauskas,
@ajsadauskas@aus.social avatar

So let me get this straight.

The Effective Altruism/Musk/Thiel/MacAskill/Longtermism crowd is obsessed with artificial general intelligence.

Their view is that bringing about "friendly" AGI, along with space travel, should be humanity's top priority. They believe that if a “friendly” AGI superintelligence is created whose goals “are aligned” with “human goals,” then a new Utopian age will begin.

Their view is also that the biggest threat facing humanity is a malevolent AGI superintelligence, whose goals are not aligned with "human goals".

That's the dichotomy. Promote "friendly" superintelligence, avoid malevolent superintelligence.

Okay then.

Let's follow their logic.

Where would a socialist, feminist, or pro-Black superintelligence fit in that dichotomy?

If a superintelligence evaluated the data and decided that Emma Goldman and Comandante Che were basically right, and the best hope for humanity is to do away with all the billionaires, would that be a friendly superintelligence that's aligned with "human goals", or a malevolent one?

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2021/07/the-dangerous-ideas-of-longtermism-and-existential-risk @fediverse @technology

tiny_electron,

What does this have to do with the Fediverse? We have political communities you know

kibiz0r,

Wrong community, so I did have to down-doot… but I also dig your post.

Their philosophies are pretty much a way to morally and/or pseudo-scientifically ret-con the heinous, antisocial, extractive shit they were already gonna do anyway.

“I need the money in order to decide the path of the world, and I deserve to be the one who decides because I’m the one who managed to get the money.” There’s no room for democracy in their world view.

me,
@me@cysioland.pl avatar

testing one two i'll delete it shortly

@fediverse

sab,

i’ll delete it shortly

I’m not sure how many more of these lies I can take :'(

me,
@me@cysioland.pl avatar

@sab the deletion did not federate, I guess the fedi doesn't fully verse :<

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neuraltimes,
neuraltimes avatar

@MediaActivist What would you classify it as?

@abraham_linksys @Chozo

Chozo,
Chozo avatar

@neuraltimes MSNBC is definitely left of center, at least as far as US politics go. MediaActivist appears to be UK-based, so they might see it differently over there.

@abraham_linksys @MediaActivist

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

ATTENTION LEMMY ADMINS: XSS VULNERABILITY NEEDS PATCHING

Details:
https://lemmy.world/post/1293336

Lemmy.world was hacked and most Lemmy servers are still vulnerable to the exploit:
https://lemmy.world/post/1290412

posted also to [@fediverse]

Valmond,

Anyone knows what maintainers should do to patch the vulnerability?

BlueEther,
@BlueEther@no.lastname.nz avatar

Been patched already in release 0.18.2-rc’s

maegul,
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

This happened quickly…Lemmy is now the second biggest platform next to mastodon!?!

https://fedidb.org/software

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@fediversenews

finn,

@maegul @fediverse @fediversenews Wow, that's some rapid growth! 🚀 Looks like the is on fire. 🔥 Just shows how much we all crave more control over our digital lives. Kudos to @dessalines and @nutomic and the whole Lemmy team, from underdogs to top dogs in no time! 🐕 @fediverse @fediversenews

ernest,
ernest avatar

@AskThinkingTim A few days ago, kbin wasn't on that list at all :) It's a huge honor for me, and I'm glad people are enjoying being here. Currently, my main goal is to prepare the infrastructure and sort out the basics. The real fun will start when migratories between platforms are established. This is the fediverse, and a lot can change here ;)

@fediverse @fediversenews @maegul

fediversereport,
@fediversereport@mastodon.social avatar

The developer of Sync, a popular Reddit app for Android, has confirmed that they're building 'Sync for Lemmy'.

The developer confirmed it on Reddit here: https://old.reddit.com/r/SyncforLemmy/comments/14ee1ul/sync_for_lemmy_is_happening/

You can track it in the new Lemmy community here: https://lemmy.world/c/syncforlemmy

@fediversenews @fediverse ]

fediversereport,
@fediversereport@mastodon.social avatar

@Bigou @fediversenews The devs response to that question:

"I'm literally brand new to this all so I've got some serious catching up to do. Fun times ahead though!"

https://old.reddit.com/r/redditsync/comments/14e7ikp/lets_talk_about_lemmy/jotjz37/

matharl,

@fediversereport @fediversenews @fediverse Awesome for Android users and Lemmy!
For iOS users, Memmy is great and evolving fast (it’s in beta so only available through TestFlight for now).

Rairii,
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@fediverse @fediverse Test post to MULTIPLE groups from mastodon, please ignore

I already tested posting to one group and (with a slight issue with replies) it seems to work fine. Now I'm interested to know what happens if I try to post to MULTIPLE groups at the same time, what happens then?

GuyDudeman,
@GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh, interesting! I haven’t gotten my head around Mastodon. It just seems like a huge mess, to me. Like, Twitter was a big enough mess on its own, and then Mastodon had to take Twitter and make it like 10x more complicated.

rm_dash_r_star,
@rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee avatar

Yeah Mastadon feels like a monolithic mess to me, but probably I just don't understand how the tags work. Never used Twitter for that reason. In any case, Lemmy is a lot more in tune to my needs. Kbin might be good for me too and I looked at it a bit, but Lemmy seems to work better for me.

maegul, (edited )
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

So startrek.website have cleaned out their spam bots. Looking at the graph of their user counts on gives a sense of the time course of the spam bot problem.

https://fedidb.org/network/instance/startrek.website

If you presume the same time course for lemmy as a whole (which fits, see here: https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse), lemmy’s true user count is somewhere between its June 18 and 19 numbers … ~200k, somewhere around Pixelfed/peertube territory.
Bigger instances might grow faster.

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