John_McMurray,

I mean this kinda awful. They’re not their government and they clearly don’t want to be part of the war.

sheogorath,

I understand their response with this. IIRC Indonesia is having the same problems with Ukrainians and Russians staying in Bali to avoid the war. The situation got so problematic the local government added Russian to their warning signs.

Although the Russians are more problematic since their banks got sanctioned and cannot use Visa networks so they’re unable to pull any money from the ATMs and have resorted to taking local jobs and even panhandling there.

aljazeera.com/…/they-dont-respect-us-russians-fac…

mojofrododojo,

time to go home and overthrow the asshole who keeps fucking up their country.

fine_sandy_bottom,

Yeah rightly or wrongly this is how I feel.

Surely the Russian people need to bear some responsibility for their government’s actions.

AbackDeckWARLORD,

I mean this kinda awful. They’re not their government and they clearly don’t want to be part of the war.

But they are racist and have a “white only” policy in a country that isn’t even theirs. So why should that country host them?

It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services.

soggy_kitty,

Do you think all russian citizens are racist?

I’m convinced this war has been going on long enough that xenophobia against Russians is considered acceptable which is fucking awful

emptiestplace,

It is awful, but think of culture like software. In fact, think of it like Microsoft software.

hitmyspot,

Of course not all Russian citizens are racist but there are varying levels of racism, homophobia and bigotry across the globe. Having a whites only policy would fall into that. Not many other countries citizens would be so bold as to do that on another country.

afraid_of_zombies,

Not many other countries citizens would be so bold as to do that on another country.

I see no one is going to bring up the Irish bars in the US. Alright.

fine_sandy_bottom,

It’s really unclear exactly what’s going on with that though. I’m morbidly curious to know how it really is.

I mean are their suburbs or areas with signs in every restaurant window saying “whites only!”, or was it a once-off altercation between a sri-lankan patron and a russion restauranteur? Probably something in between, but we really don’t know where exactly on that spectrum.

Honestly this happens to some extent in any holiday destination in SEA. Obviously it’s not as overt as having “Whites Only” signs, but it’s not necessarily a Russian thing.

hitmyspot,

A sign says this is not once off. This is a policy. The fact that the person even thought it was acceptable goes to show institutional racism. Let’s not give the benefit of the doubt to what this clear,y is, but yes, it certain,y is always worth finding all the facts.

Toldry,
@Toldry@lemmy.world avatar

I visited Sri Lanka a few months ago, I remember visiting Hikkaduwa (a beach town in the south-west) and there were tons of Russian tourists there. All the local businesses had signs in Russran, and some hotels rooms even had Russian flags hanging from the balconies.

I remeber talking to a Belarussian woman who has escaped Belarus when the war on Ukraine started because she was a political dissident and it was dangerous for her to stay. She’s been working there as a waitress ever since she arrived.

volvoxvsmarla,

How did she feel about serving Russian tourists? I mean, not every Russian is pro Putin, let alone pro war. But if you feel the need to hang a freaking flag other than the one of the opposition from your hotel’s balcony you probably belong to the ribbon wearing scum.

Toldry,
@Toldry@lemmy.world avatar

She described being enraged by them and wanting to strangle them, but then she takes a deep breath and reminds herself that that kind of violent impulse is what wrought this war in the first place, so she tries to avoid that type of thinking

spidermonkey23,

Hope they do the same in Seychelles. That’s where they’re going too.

brain_in_a_box,

Why?

spidermonkey23,

For all the same arguments listed here.

mindbleach,

And sending them back to be conscripted helps… who?

livus,
livus avatar

Those aren't the only two choices.

If you want Russian and Ukraininan refugees to be hosted somewhere, fine. So do I.

Just ask it of the wealthy nations before you demand it of a low income country like Sri Lanka.

SoonaPaana,

After all Sri Lanka does have previous experience with committing genocide and getting away with it.

poplargrove,

War crimes in a civil war and immigration issues involving Russian tourists. They seem a tad bit unrelated :P

SoonaPaana,

Yeah I understand. I got upset with few comments that were praising Sri Lanka. I just wanted to remind people that Sri Lanka has its skeletons too. Hidden away in mass graves.

aniki,

Can I get a 6 month visa as a yankee? What a great place to digital-nomad!

Marsupial,
@Marsupial@quokk.au avatar

You’ve gotta wait for your civil war 2.0, it’ll probably be in the next 5-10 years at the rate your country is going.

NoIWontPickaName,

I hope it’s sooner, my kids are still too young to fight and I am not yet too old

zabadoh,

If the Republicans follow the example of their Russian heroes, you’ll have to be over 80 to escape their version of the draft.

catloaf,

You know their economy basically collapsed in 2022, right? They’re still recovering.

aniki,

Their economy. Not mine.

Wanderer,

Tonnes of websites will give you info on being a digital nomad.

Seeing as the country took a hit lately things should be cheap and they will be happy to have someone supporting the economy. If its safe it sounds like a real option.

FluffyPotato,

Digital nomad is just a word for tech bro immigrant, just like expat is a word for white immigrant. Just own it and say you’re an immigrant, it sounds less stupid.

Dentzy,

I was going to say that I preferred them to stay in Sri Lanka, at least they would not become more soldiers for Putin… But moving there and then creating “whites only bars” 🤦, yeah, Sri Lanka is right in kicking them.

ABCDE,

www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68421131

It was one party, since cancelled. How do you think you’re justified in what you’re saying?

ABCDE,

Because they are all the same? That’s a stupid fucking take right there.

Honytawk,

Eh, sometimes you got to break a few eggs to stop a war.

ABCDE,

This gives them more troops.

Honytawk,

Or more opposition to finally have a revolution that ends the war.

ABCDE,

They ran, not because they wanted to fight on either side.

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

The fucking orcs were setting up whites only bars. Good for Sri Lanka for kicking them out.

Infiltrated_ad8271,
Infiltrated_ad8271 avatar

They didn't kick out that minority who ran racist businesses, they kicked out all the 288k people who reneged on their "duty" to go kill ukrainians and die for putin's aspirations.

rdri,

That’s a wrong amount. Real figure is unknown, though surely much lower. Check the article.

Marsupial,
@Marsupial@quokk.au avatar

Maybe instead of living the peaceful life for a few years until the war ends, they’ll have to go hold their own country accountable.

isles,

Easy words to type, difficult to live. Try considering the entirety of someone’s situation before prescribing their actions.

Infiltrated_ad8271,
Infiltrated_ad8271 avatar

It would be ideal, but this is not something that can be solved with votes and protests. If I were in their shoes, I certainly wouldn't be the brave one who would give his life to rebel against tyranny.
It's not their responsibility either, they just had the bad luck to be born there.

livus,
livus avatar

The fact that unregistered illegal Russian businesses had become an actual problem there indicates that Sri Lanka - a very poor nation that almost went bankrupt last year - is not equipped to deal with an influx of that size.

If you want someone to take on 288 thousand refugees I agree with you, but it shouldn't be Sri Lanka.

Tourism minister Harin Fernando told Daily Mirror that the ministry has been receiving complaints of some Russian tourists running unregistered and illegal businesses in the southern part of the country.

magnetosphere,
magnetosphere avatar

Seriously? “Thanks for letting us escape to your country, now stay the fuck out of our bar.” Major dick move.

Flumpkin,

The fucking orcs

were setting up whites only bars

This is so confusing, are we for or against racism?

MxM111,
MxM111 avatar

Importantly we do not judge all by the actions of few.

franklin,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve had this talk so many times, it’s a simple lesson but it needs repeating.

hemko,

It’s not “few” orcs that have crossed the border to Ukraine. It’s not “few” orcs celebrating the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine. It’s the collaborative efforts of a nation

index,

Should i blame you because your government openly support genocide in gaza? I could but we both know that the government and people in power are the ones to blame, most people are feed up on the propaganda these criminals spread to gain wealth and power.

Nythos,

That entirely depends on whether OP you’re replying to cheers for the destruction of Gaza and their government being complicit in it.

hemko,

I assume you take me as American? I do think it’s fair to call out how dumb they’re voting, as it’s fair to do with Finland too

Honytawk,

The tolerance paradox isn’t a thing.

STOMPYI,

Against.

catloaf,

Russian is not a race.

Orcs are a race, but they’re fictional.

Flumpkin,

Race in humans is a fictional construct. Doesn’t exist scientifically.
So logically, racism can’t exist either.

Hey, did we just solve racism???

AFaithfulNihilist,
@AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world avatar

Just because angels, gods, gremlins and Eskimos are imaginary doesn’t mean that people can’t be afraid of them.

nrezcm,

You must be trolling because Eskimos aren’t imaginary. I use their tax software every year when I go to file my return.

Flumpkin,

Racism has always been about inequality and dehumanizing people. It was always a constructed or mythological fixed identity.

But that’s not funny. That’s just sad.

It’s not funny like calling them orcs.

But that comment is 85% upvoted so clearly I’m wrong and that can’t be racism. Hey, maybe I have brain bleeds from long covid. Honestly that would be preferable to this shit. “Russians aren’t really hur hur hur”. Fucking racist morons.

MonsiuerPatEBrown,

Race is a fiction that created a reality called racism.

God loves a trier, though.

John_McMurray,

Not with that shit logic, no.

blahsay,

The Russians certainly consider themselves a race.

volvoxvsmarla,

…no? I’ve never heard anyone claim that

blahsay,

Slavs. Otherwise known as ethnic Russians.

Otherwise known for squatting.

Justas,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not all slavs are Russian. And most other slavs don’t like Russians either.

lolcatnip,

Russian is an ethnicity. Bigotry against an ethnicity is not different in any meaningful way from bigotry against a race. Referring to it as racism may be technically incorrect but it get the right idea across.

mojofrododojo,

no one’s asserting ALL russians - Navalney was a hero for example.

But the country is run by a shitstain of a human being; calling them orcs or chuds is certainly justified by their warcrime actions.

index,

The fucking orcs were setting up whites only bars. Good for Sri Lanka for kicking them out.

This comment sound as much racist as the people you are referring to, i hope you realize that you are just like them

Blumpkinhead,

In what way is that racist?

TopRamenBinLaden,

It sounds like the “orcs” this person was referring broke the tolerance contract first, by setting up white only bars. I see no problem here at all. Bigots aren’t deserving of any sort of civility.

locuester,

So if a gang of African American people broke into my house and called me a cracker, does that grant me the right to call them by a derogatory name?

Mr_Blott,

An Israeli bloke was telling me the other day how loads of russian Jewish people had gone to Israel to avoid the war. Actually lol’d

Dasus,

Well if they’re gonna have to participate in fighting, perhaps they’re smart to choose the better equipped army who are “fighting” unarmed and malnourished children in an open-air prison.

The moral thing would be to not participate in either, ofc.

I’m just pointing out I can see the logic they used.

Mr_Blott,

Admittedly an horribly flippant comment on my part. He was actually saying how most of the russian Jewish were highly educated and hardworking compared to the average Israeli, and a massive boon to the country

Not sure how to feel about that given both country’s circumstances

LufyCZ,

Yeah it’s not ironic at all, they won’t be conscripted in Israel

Wanderer,

Jews or “Jews”?

You can just say you’re a converted Jew right? With proof. There must be some people trying some shady shit to get the proof.

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