That’s okay as your perspective, I would like you to consider that Motion Twin is not remote so those are different project ideas. I would say it depends on how you approach those types of projects. Realistically the scope of what I can accomplish solo is different to the one even in a small team, and the vision that I create solo certainly will not be the same as the vision that would get created from a collaborative process utilizing methods like Sociocracy. I already got some interest from 2 other people, in practice from my experience even between 2 persons team and a solo team there is an enormous difference, that’s why I am searching for some hypothetical collaborators. I agree that this is a very competetive market, I think that in practice almost everywhere there is some competition and I would rather work on things that interest me. I think every moment that I don’t murder myself I risk that I will die of more painful death than what I could give myself through picking the most appropriate form of suicide, so I am personally fine with risk and if someone is not then that’s fine.
Cynosuralism is one of my own interpretations of libertarian political philosophy. I had originally named it as “Sociocratic Confederalism” as it is heavily inspired by Democratic Confederalism, Communalism, Libertarian Municipalism, and Social Ecology, all of which are interconnected amongst themselves....
How would an #anticapitalistBusiness do meetings?
Cooperative, nonprofit, b-corp … whatever you want to found.
If you're serious you're #anticapitalist, give this a moment of your energy: What is the real difference?
@dajb I have not seen RadHR! this looks awesome.
I've heard of Sociocracy, but haven't heard of people practicing. Or even talking about it, really. But I will try to get into those conversations, thanks. Glad you reminded me.
🤔I got asked about this yesterday from a neighbor, a teacher in our local school district.
Teacher: "Isn't AI 4 to 5 times faster/better at coding than the best developers?"
Me: "Isn't AI 4 to 5 times faster/better at teaching than the best teachers?”
(shocked/disgusted look on her face)
🤷 And that's one of the problems of AI. It seems better than you at something you know nothing about because you don't quite know well enough to call it out on its bullshit. https://toot.cafe/@baldur/112031199817039932
@webology yes, especially the management that's only supposed to balance opionions and make decisions based on worker knowledge 💯️ But then again, I think that also organization methods like sociocracy can get companies far without AI.
It's funny how at this stage AI can be perceived as so flawed that suggesting to replace someone with it reminds a bit of the old sysadmin t-shirt "go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script" 👯♂️️
The people who came up with the ideas were Dannemiller (Whole Scale Change and the change formula) and Pesut (who seems to like workshop / games etc) - so looks more focused on productive communication between silos.
Anyway, could definitely be used for this - and/but 'I will try' is a get-out answer which would defuse the entire power of Promise-Based Management and of which Flores would highly disapprove 🙂
"Demokratie" - eine abstrakte Worthülse?
Ich glaube, dass demokratische Prozesse für viele Menschen "zu weit weg" stattfinden. Dass in Schulen, Institutionen, Arbeitsplätzen zu wenige gute Erfahrungen mit Partizipation, Selbstorganisation und gemeinsamen Entscheidungen machen.
#SOZIOKRATIE ist ein Modell, das dies ändern will. Sie ermöglicht effektive, agile Selbstorganisation in Teams und Organisationen. Demokratie zum Anfassen. Mitgestaltung zum Dran-Gewöhnen.
🧵 ok so prob you've seen posts going on about artisan cooperative eh? its an etsy alternative that seems to be trying to sell ppl that it being a co-op, means its better.
Maybe in some ways? but their website has a lot of red flags to me, the things they link seem not anti-corporate so much as sorta left-washing the concept of ownership class?
anyway, i asked what they were going to do about white supremacy amongst members, and what of poor people. here's their BS response.
I did message them feeling very unsafe with them but I was hopeful. like yeah they're all corpo speak but MAYBE that's just in public??? Nope. they're corpo. they are tricking you into thinking they know anything about being egalitarian anything while using words like "sociocracy". if you are white, do not let them pull the wool over your eyes. you are worth more than the shit they are shoveling you.
The Sociocracy 3.0 Canvases are included in Ultri's Canava now. https://www.ultri.com/canava
That allows easy customization of the canvas rows, columns, and instructions. It also makes viewing and entering the data easier than other canvases.
Finally! A sociocracy product! The first two of the S3 Canvas series are live. You can fill out the canvas for free, then download your data and import it later to edit.
The S3 Organization Canvas and S3 Delegation canvas have different styles, tell us which you like. https://www.ultri.com/canvas/
Let's pretend we're proponents of free and open source software, enlist an army of week intentioned FOSS developers to contribute to our project, and once successfully deployed in many enterprises across the industry...
Pull the rug out and convert it into a proprietary product with a bunch of undisclosed, hidden code that we won't ever show you - Muahahaha...
Yeah. I see this happening right now in several prominent and celebrated open source projects that you're probably completely oblivious to those sinister objectives.
This is why the most ubiquitous desktop operating system in the world is Minix.
What's that you say?
Yup, Minix. But that's no secret, the cat was out of the bag on that one a few years back (after being secretly so for many years).
Before you contribute any more code, translations, or documentation to a software project, consider this:
Now, there's another point to be made here, without specifically naming any projects currently abusing user contributions. Let's call this hypothetical project "hammer&anvil", itself a fork of a popular software project - but claims it's all about being free and transparent, wanting to distinguish itself from the project it's forked from by adopting GPL3 instead of a permissive license.
Sure, the project's BDFL (let's call her "Strawberry Daiquiri"), says one day, "were forming a fork of project X because they've formed a company and I'm afraid what they are going to do with X because it's under a permissive license. This girl will be brutally transparent and completely run by the community under the philosophy of anarchy, but we're going to call it a sociocracy so you don't know that it's really just me making a proprietary product for my own ambitions".
Well, Miss Daquiri decides to capture by capitalizing upon the sentiment that folks have for Copyleft - it's supposed to protect free software, right?
Well, this fork (hammer& anvil) is a hosted solution - meaning SaaS, meaning, it runs elsewhere (other than in your computer) in the cloud as a publicly accessible service. Hmmmm.
That means that the most appropriate Copyleft license is likely the AGPL, and not the GPL as one would expect fur a desktop or other local program that you actually download and install in your laptop or server.
The GPL requires that when you distribute (give away or sell) your program, either by letting someone download or handing it to them on a USB stick, Etc., You must also make available ALL of the source code, including any changes you've made to the program.
But if you run a modified GPL program as a service in the cloud you don't have to provide ANY off the changes you've made to the code.
Hmmm.
With AGPL you do have to supply your users with ANY code modifications you've made to the running service to which they have accounts...
So let's just say that you fork Mastodon, and call it Glitch-Soc, modify it, and run it in the cloud for people to create accounts on and use (for free or for monthly subscription fees - it doesn't matter). ANY and ALL changes to the code base that you make MUST be made available anytime a user asks for the source code, because it's an #AGPL licensed product.
And in reality, such is actually the case with this exceedingly popular and capable #fork. It's a fine product in it's own right.
But had you changed the license to all contributions moving forward to #GPL, you wouldn't have to provide any modifications you made (unless you give or sell the software product itself on say, a USB stick or via download).
Why? Because you're just allowing them to access and use your service, your not actually giving them the program to use for themselves elsewhere - so any modifications you made since forking under a different license (GPL instead of AGPL) isn't something you have to show them.
You've essentially created a #proprietary product (if you're so nefarious as to hide your code changes by butt disclosing them), the only code of which you must supply being that which existed under the AGPL before you forked it.
Both #Copyleft and permissive open source #licenses like #BSD and #MIT can be a good thing, or they can be abused beyond the intentions of the #FOSS inclined project contributors. Just make sure that you understand what can and cannot be changed where your intended purpose for the #distribution and #availability of source code is concerned....
There are BIG differences between the ramifications of each #license and how they can affect transparency and distribution of your free gifts to the world.
In our hypothetical scenario with hammer&anvil, the #BDFL, #Strawberry Daiquiri, has decided that she's going to launch a hosted service, and she's going to include things that you don't see and can't be aware of behind the scenes which, if disclosed, you would have nothing to do with - but you'll never know what kinds of scary things she's done with the product that only resembles the original on the surface, because Miss Daquiri will never have to show you the code she has added behind the scenes.
"Beautiful Victor, Beautiful."
-The Monster, speaking to his creator in the film, 'Frankenstein, The True Story'.
Pondering how democratic tools & rules are only as good as they can reflect a group's consensus.
The #benevolentdictator model in open systems, ie FOSS & now fedi instances, despite problems (centralisation, burnout), remains compelling. It could also be a Team with control (as with post-BDFL projects like CiviCRM) – the key is decision-makers have to reflect consensus. Because it's all open, they know the community can depart/fork with relatively low cost (unlike the Zuskian/techbro dictator).
@dajb ah, ok - sorry. I did a workshop at Mozfest once and it felt the goal was to discuss things in ever bigger groups until everyone was on the same page. Anyone could block the whole process so there was a need for consensus. But I might have forgotten some key details! It felt that this ability for one person to block the democratic expression of 120 people's votes had more in common with sociocracy than one-member one-vote coops?
I'm searching for people interested in creation of remote, horizontal game dev worker cooperative
cross-posted from: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/20011919...
Cynosuralism (Sociocratic Confederalism) (lemmy.world)
Cynosuralism is one of my own interpretations of libertarian political philosophy. I had originally named it as “Sociocratic Confederalism” as it is heavily inspired by Democratic Confederalism, Communalism, Libertarian Municipalism, and Social Ecology, all of which are interconnected amongst themselves....