Channeling Jerry Seinfeld. What's the deal with the lack of flatpak server/services software?
On Ubuntu Server a ton of command line tools and services are snap packaged. Why isn't this happening with flatpak? Is there some fundamental difference that prevents flatpak from being used like snaps are on the server?
I know Canonical really wants to push their stupid walled garden with Snaps, but c'mon. That's just insane. :blobfoxlaughsweat: Snaps are the reason I'll generally not recommend Ubuntu anymore. It's too much to explain to a Linux newbie why Firefox boots slowly and Steam crashes.
@itsfoss no need for #ubuntu themes, since i banned Ubuntu from my computers, for forcing even more #snaps and "#ransomware" (or what is software called these days that comes like "you can haz updates, IF YOU PAY US!" ) in my face.
@itsfoss I switched from #ubuntu to something "minty" without that crappy #snaps bullshit. Forcing snaps and "ransomware" in my face isn't going to fly with me any longer. You need to drop ubuntu too. Because the won't stop until the numbers of installations drop.
I already explained the main differences between most packaging formats, but now, it’s time to look at them in a more critical manner:
Performance benchmarks, missing features, advantages and drawbacks, for #Snaps, #Flatpak, #AppImage and regular good old packages:
Seems trolls were spreading mistruths about Linux Snaps vs Flatpaks and AppImages
Seems partial truths were amplified out of context, and that is not doing justice to Canonical’s Snaps. I would have preferred to have heard the full context and then made up my own mind about snaps.
The crux of it is, that yes Canonical’s own Snap Store b ...continues
"But... but... I get my copy of Firefox from Snaps or Flatpaks. I already have a "pure" copy of Firefox."
Oh really?
You don't think Mozilla adds Ubuntu's bookmarks, settings, and previously their style do you? The same is true with Flatpaks too, for example, openSUSE and Fedora. 🤔
Many distros have automated scripts that modify your browser upon install or have modified their copy of Snaps and Flatpaks to selectively install their changes. 😉
Canonical are currently dealing with a security incident with the Snap store, after users noticed multiple fake apps were uploaded so temporary limits have been put in place.
The way I see it, there is not a single package format that is perfect for everything and everyone.
Universal package formats over recent years have helped to significantly increase the amount of available options for the vast majority of #Linux users.
#Snaps in particular are so easy to avoid. Why not just switch away from #Ubuntu, leaving #Canonical to it? I am having zero issues avoiding AUR packages by not using #ArchLinux…
@itsfoss btw: #UBUNTU 23.10 #Linux ... is this the one where #Canonical finally drops the whole #snaps idea and stops forcing their shit into our faces with a crowbar ??? I HOPE SO!!!!!! 🤔
Hey #Canonical. Stop trying to make everything a #Snap. #Snaps suck. Nobody wants them and we've already moved to #Flatpaks and #AppImages. Stop forcing your agenda on us.
I'm running #Ubuntu on my server but I'd like to move away from it. Was thinking of #Fedora server but I'd like something that isn't all new and just works, maybe I'm doing it a disservice. I was thinking that might be #CentOS but I've now caught up on that big palaver.
I used to love #Arch when I was younger but I have kids now and can't devote the energy to it, I just want a stable OS to run #Docker containers on that's easy to install and doesn't shove #UbuntuPro or #Snaps down my throat.
Been using #ubuntu since the very first releases but now with them forcing #snaps on us I may finally have to look for an alternative. Just not sure what that would be. (A modern deb based GNOME desktop)
On the surface, the current #Linux distribution model (where distros package everything, from the kernel to the apps) seems fine.
But it's pretty broken, and it's holding the Linux desktop back, which is why distributions like #Ubuntu or #Fedora (and a lot more), are moving away from it, and replacing packages with Snaps and Flatpaks for graphical applications.
Here's my opinion on this, trying to explain why exactly this change needs to happen:
Haven't Canonical got the message yet that Snaps are very unpopular. This is being forced on users and the people I know—myself included—don't want it.
Snap store from Canonical hit with malicious apps (www.gamingonlinux.com)
Canonical are currently dealing with a security incident with the Snap store, after users noticed multiple fake apps were uploaded so temporary limits have been put in place.