pixelfed,
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Loops is a new platform for sharing short videos, and it's open source + federated using

We're really excited to share this sneak peek that showcases the new onboarding flow and discovery features (Connect Mastodon) and look forward to the upcoming beta release!

Are you ready for ?

Loops app demo

koen,
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@pixelfed please slow down the succession of the slides a little bit, I had to pause that video multiple times because there was not enough time to read the words. 🙏🏻

asudox,
@asudox@mastodon.social avatar

@pixelfed nice

eonity,
@eonity@mastodon.social avatar

@pixelfed Finally, open-source TikTok!

Beiz,
@Beiz@mastodon.social avatar

@pixelfed hopefully this won't die half-way like Goldfish.

logickinlambda,
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@pixelfed

I can block the whole domain, right?

I hate not because its origin, but because how harmful how short form videos are, which is also applies to musical.ly, YouTube shorts, or vine.

pinskal,
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@pixelfed
When will it be released and how can I join
Jon

_mgrumpeli,
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@pixelfed can the beta be joined right now?

pmarrone,
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@pixelfed I was just in a thread about the other day. I can’t wait to try it!

Ivor,
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@pixelfed oh good! I've got 1500 short videos of a pet rabbit (deceased) that I want to get off my phone. Be careful what you wish for.

pinskal,
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@Ivor @pixelfed
I think deceased is an interesting name for a pet rabbit.

alb_004,
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@pixelfed God ! Please don't become next tiktok, insta reels or yt shorts.

hszakher,
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@alb_004 @pixelfed why not? Apparently there's a demand (the list you mentioned proves it) but lack of alternative in the . It's a great step forward 👍

alb_004,
@alb_004@mstdn.party avatar

@hszakher @pixelfed I mean about the addiction. People will waste alot time on short form content 😰

hszakher,
@hszakher@mastodon.world avatar

@alb_004 @pixelfed I agree with your concern. however, I guess as the other parts of the , if it's algorithm-free, the consumption behaviour would be normal. unlike algorithmic-fed induced (addictive) consumption

TuxOnBike,
@TuxOnBike@norden.social avatar

@hszakher @alb_004

It will not be algorithm-free: https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112331431372219817

Maybe instances and users can opt out. I did not check that.

@pixelfed

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed

This kills my interest in . People must remain the algorithm, it's the only way to prevent enclosure.

LordofCandy,
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed how does that kill your interest if every server has control of it? Make an instance without one. Join one without one. Or join one that facilitates your interests. Kind of a huge gradient there to enjoy whereas none other have that flexibility. I enjoy being able to skim those I follow but I also acknowledge that I don’t always find new things to explore. 🍻

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@LordofCandy @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed

I don’t join servers but follow people and organizations. Proprietary algorithms locked to a specific server is an enclosure. Whoever joins it is now dependent on its properties and loses portability.

I would caution per server algorithms are not particularly liberating.

LordofCandy,
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed but can’t we say that about everything here? Your host is choosing what servers are going to be federated from, that’s just an enclosure as well. Which is why my first mention was run your own. You can have that control. Therefore you have the full gamut of options, like we expect here.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@LordofCandy @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed

I recommend looking up what enclosure means. Federation is a matter of simple inspection. People can see the federation graph. Moving house doesn’t entail a loss of function a per platform proprietary bot curator creates. This is why I won’t opt in for it. Plus I don’t sample short content much.

LordofCandy,
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed sorry I thought you meant more walled gardens or hidden content. Afaik if you are on a defederated server you’ll never see or hear content outside of that. Can you send a helpful link on enclosure because I’ve done a few vectors of search and am not finding relevance.

GhostOnTheHalfShell, (edited )
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@LordofCandy @TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 @pixelfed

What forced the peasants off the commons by making the commons private property.

Today, this goes both ways. Proprietary systems present limitations (freedom of movement etc) and options for abuse.

Added into the mix is a healthy dose of distaste for machine curated content.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure

darth_akeda,
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@GhostOnTheHalfShell this is wrong. You’re trying to make it sound nice as it’s what you agree with. User data & identity are tethered to an instance. Per instance can very much vary as far as functionality so that statement is a fallacy, please do not make things up to fit your narrative.

GhostOnTheHalfShell, (edited )
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@darth_akeda

Hmmm, people move ship with some regularity within the fediverse. This is the essence of a commons. My basic thesis is that an algorithm in a server is intrinsically different from the algorithm in people’s heads. Even as people move servers the network and the network investment they build up goes with them.

People as the basic algorithm is not in the server. It’s in each person’s heads.

This is why I choose to avoid algorithm curated platforms.

pixelfed,
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@TuxOnBike @hszakher @alb_004 Opt-out will be possible, and we will have a chronological followers feed you can use instead!

arunshah240,
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@pixelfed ok I'm waiting

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