then lets assume a similar situation pops up, as they do from time to time. someone is hellbent on violence, is already committing a lot of violence, and is escalating rather than stopping. How would you architect a peaceful solution to that, and what would you say to the families of the people who were killed while you were architecting that peaceful solutions. It’s all well and good to say “there has to be some more peaceful solution” but then you have to actually find it and implement it.
lol monster factory I think is their finest work…although ep. 50 through roughly 400 are peak podcasting. When I was first listening to mbmbam I was on the subway and in airports crying with laughter. The newer ones I’ve put on haven’t really grabbed me that way. Back in like 2016, I could NOT stop listening.
It’s like the early to mid mbmbam, early to mid Harmontown, and the first two seasons of My dad wrote a porno. The most amazing podcasts ever invented.
Oh man I’ll never forget the plane trip I took where I was sitting next to a young couple and the girl was showing the guy Andrew Tate videos and telling him to be more like Tate. “You know how you’re always complaining like a bitch? Well watch this…” and then she played a video of Andrew Tate talking about how real men are stoic because no one wants to hear about their damn feelings. I was really hurting for this guy but he calmly told her she was an idiot and said Andrew Tate could fuck off.
I only saw admissions about what is already publicly known. Yes he hired women and did pornography. This is morally wrong and destructive to society.
The rape and trafficking charges are hoaxes because Tate is a prominent figure against the establishment.
Bill Gates is on the Epstein list and his wife left him over the issue yet… No investigation.
To quote George Carlin, “Its a big club, and you ain’t in it.” Not only am I completely confident he did nothing wrong. They would have buried him under the prison if they had any real dirt. I also know it is political persecution.
what political stances is he being persecuted for? Then again, WW2 was “Obvious political persecution.” and I don’t see anyone having issues with offing the Nazis, I mean it was literally targeted at a political party!
He admitted to doing porn with women and making money. Never admitted to “rape” or “trafficking” because it didn’t happen
look, I get it, English wasn’t part of your Hustlers’ university degree, but the man said it himself
quite frankly, the man is evil, and it isn’t inherently wrong to get rid of shit stains like him
It’s not a bot. I’ve seen them comment on image based posts and can get the context correct.
I don’t feel it’s a troll, I feel they’re really just in deep.
I find it fascinating, and I like to think in self-aware enough to know I could be in deep in other things. I took the approach here to be understanding and try to point out some fallacies.
In hindsight I should have picked up on there against the establishment line and pointed out some more suitable figures that are fighting the status quo who aren’t also predators.
I don’t believe we can’t help people rethink something they’re so invested in without being kind to an extent. It can be difficult to admit you’re wrong at times, imagine admitting everything you have pinned your identity on is wrong or your idol or person you looked up to was a scumbag. The duality of people I guess.
No. If someone is guilty of these crimes. Then charge them. Whether you’re my idol or not.
I don’t have double standards for people of my tribe or people I like more.
Edit: to be abundantly clear. The vast majority of the world isn’t aware of his existence. Therefore there isn’t much reason to silence him. I know at times it can seem like the things we are into are bigger than they are, but they really are at times. Take Lemmy, not many people I know irl has heard of it, but it’s a large part of my life. As someone with ADHD this becomes abundantly clear when you unload all you’ve learned about something to someone and you’re met with ah nice.
Meh. See how they didn’t reply back? They are arguing in bad faith, they don’t want/care about citations
they just want you to either waste your time (so they can ignore you) or say something like “you can google it yourself” so they can say “see, you got nothing”
They went to Romania because of it’s excellent legal system right? No wait, they went there because they thought it was a highly corrupt system in which they could pay their way out of their crimes.
…and now they’re going to get prosecuted because they’re a highly visible case.
EU countries are good place to escape if you’re expecting a death sentence or “inhuman” jail conditions (ie. torture, rat cell, etc). Otherwise it’s useless
It’s only highly visible because he bragged about paying cops hush money. What Tate failed to realize is that hush money applies to both parties. The party accepting the bribe, and the party offering the bribe.
Not just that, but he also publicly bragged about how lax Romania’s laws and how they don’t care about rape during an administration that is attempting, at least on the surface, to change public perception of themselves worldwide from the corrupt governments of the 90s and 2000s.
They did release him because they can’t do that. However, he then told his buddy that he’s going to flee the country, who then talked about that on his livestream. That’s a new offense that lead to him being arrested again.
What? Why did I put known idiots to such high standards I need to reread it a couple of times to believe it. For fuck’s sake, it’s a ready winner for some award.
Right, and that’s exactly how it went with Tate. And I have a feeling you know that? Either you’re playing dumb or you are dumb, and either prompt me to hang up on this time waste of a thread.
i'm not defending tate he deserves to rot in prison
i'm saying that a government shouldn't have the power to just dump you in prison without having a reason for it
when tate was initially arrested he was held for months without being charged
being absolutely fine with a system that allows that because in this instance it happened to fall onto a guy you don't like is brain rot
you think the osu protestors that were just released without being charged would've been released at all without a law requiring them to be charged within 24 hours?
banning and deleting your multiple accounts troll accounts defending Tate
i have literally no idea what you're talking about and it makes you sound unhinged
i have literally no idea what you’re talking about and it makes you sound unhinged
Then you should take a look at both what is left of the two comments I deleted from the troll accounts and the modlog of their deleted comments. But maybe I’m just unhinged and none of that exists.
The judge who approves it has to have some serious reasons. He’s a foreigner, wealthy, and accused of serious crimes. You don’t get held for months for stealing a loaf of bread. You can also only be held while evidence is being collected pending a trial.
It does suck that law enforcement worldwide can pick you up off the street, fuck up your afternoon/day/week/month/life and then just say ‘oops, you’re alright’. If you have a better way, you’d be a revolutionary mind.
Don’t act like Guantanamo is related to it being on communist soil. We started renting it from Batista, the guy the Cuban revolution was against. The Cuban communists have never cashed a check for it and insist we’re illegally occupying it
Pretty good. There is a restaurant close to where I live that has got a lot of hype about, took the family there yesterday. It was worth it. Also one of my children has a recital.
Not too bad we’re attending a beach football tournament of companies. Our friends did not qualify so we’ll be out early. But ! that means lunch at the beach, heheh.
Good, good. The flight was a bit bumpy today, but by 11am I was having breakfast at my favorite little place down in front of the mosque. I love the quiet Sunday mornings here.
It’s kinda like a grand jury where they decide if there’s enough evidence to proceed with the trial, but without the jury. It’s what a lot of places have moved to from the grand jury.
I know you’re being sarcastic, but I just find it so hilarious that while Romania may in fact be corrupt, this small-dick-energy idiot somehow managed to make himself the whipping boy with whom Romania will demonstrate to the world how not corrupt they are.
I will giddily await him having his front teeth extracted in make-me-your-bitch prison.
I hope he’s treated well in prison. Especially if courts determine it’s best for society if he spends a lifetime there.
Just realized a part of that is for the workers there. If I were a guard I’d feel best about my job knowing it’s the most ethical prison it can be. If prison rape (if that’s what you were getting at) isn’t the sentence, then it shouldn’t happen. (If it’s the sentence, oh my.)
You’re absolutely right, and deep down I do agree that the civility with which we treat prisoners is the measure of society. Some countries more than others tend to engage in “revenge based” justice and its just yuck.
I got a bit carried away with my comment because lately my justice boner just keeps getting deferred or held over. It’s been a long time.
Since the Reddit exodus barring Hexbear and lemmy.ml which I blocked the moment I was able to, all I’ve seen on here is genuine discussion and healthy disagreement. It’s a nice change of pace compared to the rest of the internet.
We all benefit from a society with a higher floor for suffering. We all benefit from a society that doesn’t see hurting people unnecessarily as justice.
I am not a prisoner, I hope to never be one, but if I find myself forced to violate laws to sate my conscience I hope I am treated as kindly as possible, so for that to happen I must demand we treat even the absolute dregs of society as fellow human beings who can reform and don’t deserve unnecessary suffering.
Imagine being a corrupt system trying to project legitimacy, and that shit stain of a human comes in and admit federal crimes and being a dick all around.
This is a slam dunk to use Tate as a way to project a working system even though it is probably not.
Yeah, never announce that you’re committing a crime and that a government won’t stop you unless they can’t stop you. Corruption is built on a foundation of plausible deniability. Take it away and they start risking their power and paydays
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