openrightsgroup, to privacy
@openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org avatar

"While the UK government adopted powers that could allow the private messages of everyone in the UK to be scanned, it did concede that this could not be put into practice without jeopardizing people’s security and privacy.

ORG has called for Ofcom to publish regulations that make clear that there is no available technology that can allow for scanning of user data to co-exist with strong and .“

🗣️ Pam Cowburn, ORG Head of Comms.

https://www.itpro.com/security/privacy/euro-police-chiefs-rekindle-end-to-end-encryption-battle-amid-continued-rollouts

echo_pbreyer, to random German
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social avatar

🇬🇧 It took Commissioner 13 weeks to answer my questions about the surveillance architects, saying that minimal is granted only on a "case-by-case basis". My next question is on the way
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-003494-ASW_EN.html

blueghost, to email
@blueghost@mastodon.online avatar

Proton Mail automatically encrypts/decrypts messages between Proton Mail accounts via OpenPGP/PGP.

Proton Mail supports automatically encrypting/decrypting messages between Proton Mail accounts and external email accounts that support OpenPGP/PGP or GnuPG/GPG.

Instructions: https://proton.me/support/how-to-use-pgp
GnuPG: https://mastodon.online/@blueghost/111974048270035570

Website: https://proton.me
Mastodon: @protonprivacy

iuvi,
@iuvi@mastodon.social avatar

@protonprivacy @blueghost (can be) true, buuut, theres one thing wich mess people up - many takes writing from/to proton mail users as something wich will be encrypted "by default" without any knowledge of how pgp keys works + it just about trust that proton does not read messages when storing secret key themselves...

protonprivacy,
@protonprivacy@mastodon.social avatar

@iuvi @blueghost Note that Proton Mail servers don't hold your private master key directly — it is always stored encrypted with your account password. And we don't have access to your account password.

axx, to random
@axx@mstdn.fr avatar
afterdawn, to random Finnish
@afterdawn@mementomori.social avatar

Ja sama levy pyörii taas..

Kun viranomaisten ajama vahvan salauksen kielto Euroopassa on ainakin toistaiseksi törmännyt perustuslailliseen seinään, on muutettu taktiikkaa.

Nyt Europol anelee teknologiafirmoja, jotta ne vapaaehtoisesti poistaisivat päätä päähän salauksen viestisovelluksistaan.

https://dawn.fi/uutiset/2024/04/23/europol-haluaa-kieltaa-salatun-viestiliikenteen

vegai,

@afterdawn Sota-ajalla olen tästä eri mieltä. Voi olla aika haitallista, että vihollinen voi viestitellä meidän omalla infralla ilman että omilla joukoilla on mitään mahdollisuutta päästä väliin.

autiomaa,
@autiomaa@mementomori.social avatar

@vegai @afterdawn Juuri sota-ajan keskellä on tärkeää säilyttää salauskyky tavallisilla kansalaisilla, koska muuten ne joutuvat myös vieraiden valtioiden kohteeksi.

echo_pbreyer, to random German
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social avatar

🇬🇧 To enable mass surveillance, 32 European police chiefs call for halting end-to-end encryption . This is an attack on our security and digital privacy in violation of fundamental rights!

More: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/police-chiefs-want-to-halt-secure-end-to-end-encryption-to-enable-chat-control-bulk-scanning-of-all-private-messages/

echo_pbreyer, to random German
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social avatar

🇩🇪 Um zu ermöglichen fordern 32 Europäische Polizeichefs (wohl auch das ) Ende-zu-Ende-Verschlüsselungsstopp. Das ist ein grundrechtswidriger Angriff auf unsere Sicherheit und das digitale Briefgeheimnis!

Mehr: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/fuer-chatkontrolle-wollen-polizeichefs-sichere-ende-zu-ende-verschluesselung-stoppen/

papageier,
@papageier@digitalcourage.social avatar

@echo_pbreyer Deja vue. Genau da waren wir in den 2000ern schon mal. Und wer hat's erfunden? Die !

chbmeyer,
@chbmeyer@digitalcourage.social avatar

@echo_pbreyer die Menschheit ist erst dann Reif für "die Digitalisierung", wenn sich all unsere Befürchtungen bewahrheitet und so als berechtigt herausgestellt haben.
In diesem Sinne möchte ich den Lauf der Geschichte fast gerne beschleunigen, damit die sich die Erkenntnis endlich großflächig durchsetzt. Leider sind die Kollateralschäden erheblich.

kuketzblog, to security German
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

Politische Überwachungsphantasien, die mit dem Vorwand gerechtfertigt werden, "schlimmste Verbrechen wie den sexuellen Missbrauch von Kindern zu bekämpfen", sind unerträglich.

Wer wirklich etwas für Kinder tun will, engagiert sich im Kampf gegen den Klimawandel, für sichere Schul- und Radwege, für Bildung, gewaltfreie Familien, Chancengleichheit und freie Entfaltungsmöglichkeiten.

Stop this bullshit! 🫵

dr_hossa23,
@dr_hossa23@social.tchncs.de avatar

@kuketzblog Uuund Präventionsarbeit! Kinder stark machen und ihnen ein Standing geben, dass sie sich gegen Täter:innen wehren können und Personen aus dem Umfeld der Kinder Aufklären. Aufklärung ist das A und O!
Auch beim Datenschutz...

glynmoody, to privacy
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar

European police chiefs target in latest demand for ‘lawful access’ - https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/22/e2ee-police-chiefs-lawful-access/ can't they just give over with their stupid calls? we want , not constant government snooping and backdoors

glynmoody,
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar

@ArneBab they don't care

glynmoody,
@glynmoody@mastodon.social avatar

@AngelicAura sounds great...er, maybe not

alghaff, to random
@alghaff@mastodon.online avatar

European police chiefs have come out against , using the same old misleading arguments!

Weakening will help predators, criminals, blackmailers & scammers.

What European police chiefs want means:

❌ No Signal
❌ No WhatsApp
❌ No iMessage
❌ No Facetime

https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/european-police-chiefs-call-for-industry-and-governments-to-take-action-against-end-to-end-encryption-roll-out

echo_pbreyer, to random German
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social avatar

🇬🇧 New on : Privacy-friendly and encrypted messaging services are to be penalised with chat control bulk scanning orders. They want to turn the safest services into the most monitored ones!

Read on: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/leak-privacy-friendly-and-encrypted-messaging-services-are-to-be-penalised-with-chat-control-bulk-scanning-orders/

pete,

@echo_pbreyer If they truly pull this off we should all be advocating apps like DeltaChat (f-droid.org/en/packages/com.b4…), an E2E encrypted chat app that utilizes GPG encrypted emails in a user-friendly fashion.
And best of all the whole "walled garden messaging service" deal would be a thing of the past - all a participant ever needs is ANY single email provider and the DeltaChat app.

Wonder how they'll try to ruin a decades old backbone internet service like the MTA protocol?

echo_pbreyer,
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social avatar

@pete Self-hosted apps will not be affected. However, to contact most people, you won't have the choice to use such software.

je5perl, to random
@je5perl@eupolicy.social avatar

What?? Microsoft told the EU Going Dark HLG that the problem of interception of private communications on OTT services is more technical than legal, and referred to technical work already conducted to develop real-time interception capabilities for Skype and Teams https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/1bb75432-ba0d-45f7-a068-d54a5574f5c0_en?filename=HLG%20meeting%20on%2010%20April%202024-request%20for%20input_en.pdf

Very disappointing if Microsoft is willing to undermine the security of end-to-end encryption and build backdoors for law enforcement.

Morishima, to security
@Morishima@ieji.de avatar
Tutanota,
@Tutanota@mastodon.social avatar

@Morishima @protonprivacy Thanks for recommending our private email service. We're here to fight mass surveillance with technology; happy that you are joining this fight! 💪 Together we can build a better web. 😍 🔒

kbal,
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

Let's use @protonprivacy and @Tutanota products.

When will the two largest providers of secure encrypted email make it the default for messages sent between them to be securely encrypted? If even they can't manage it what hope is there for the rest of the email world?

183231bcb, to random

Can anymany tell me how I'm "supposed" to use end-to-end encryption with XMPP?

As far as I can tell there are three totally different ways to do E2EE:

a)OTR : "[https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0364.html](Not intended to be a current standard), or technical specification, as better (albeit, newer and less well tested) methods of end-to-end encryption exist for XMPP. "

b)OpenPGP: There are at least two different XEPs about it. XEP-0027 is obsolete, while XEP-0373 is "experimental" but hasn't been updated in almost three years.

c)OMEMO: "Experimental" and hasn't been updated in over two years.

Is there a way to do E2EE in XMPP which is neither deprecated nor experimental? What's the "Current stable" way to do it?

alshafei, to privacy
@alshafei@mastodon.social avatar

An overview of how @simplex works and what sets it apart from other messaging apps and protocols:

https://linuxiac.com/simplex-chat/

"SimpleX is one of the most private and secure chat and applications platform that you can find out there."

jamesmarshall,
@jamesmarshall@sfba.social avatar

@alshafei @simplex the group fanout I mentioned earlier could also be done efficiently through arbitrarily long delivery paths.

Anyway, I've implemented a protocol to do all this, but SimpleX looks better. I hope more apps are written using it, and the protocol continues to be developed.

2/2

simplex,
@simplex@mastodon.social avatar

@jamesmarshall @alshafei

Thank you!

On groups, for most public, open-to-join groups e2e encryption is needed to protect participation, not content, so we don't need pairwise ratchets between members here - we're developing the new design based on super-peers that'll do broadcasting. e2e encryption between members can indeed be added later to that design.

For IP address protection, we are currently developing a two-hop message routing protocol: https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplexmq/blob/stable/rfcs/2023-09-12-second-relays.md

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