kaiserkiwi, to iOS
@kaiserkiwi@corteximplant.com avatar

17.4 is out now for a few days. Any stuff that makes ​s less useful? Or am I safe to update?

mstankiewicz, to random
@mstankiewicz@pol.social avatar

Don’t use . Use .

croc, to webdev
@croc@mastodon.social avatar

Made an update to my little link extractor utility PWA, LinkMod. Now it optionally extracts links to internal pages if a root domain is provided.

Here's a brief demo video demonstrating a valid use of LinkMod's new internal pages feature:
https://croc.buzz/v/MWfBGx

PWA Link:
https://linkmod.croc.io

schizanon, (edited ) to apple
@schizanon@mas.to avatar
ajussak, to web French
@ajussak@piaille.fr avatar

Change your mind

nicd, to webdev

's are pretty spiffy indeed. This is my own music player running as a desktop app, with a dock icon, and integration to the OS media controls (including media keys). I didn't have to write any platform specific code to achieve this. The same codebase is usable in the web browser and as a mobile app with no extra cost.

Massive thanks to all browser devs who have implemented the necessary APIs and tooling for PWAs.

Elektrofoni is starting to look pretty nice, but there's still plenty of work to do before I can release a 1.0.

mario, to random
@mario@hachyderm.io avatar

I’m trying out on my phone. Too early to draw conclusions but so far I’m liking it!

Up to now I wasn’t using any PWA but I saw a few posts recommending it and decided to give it a go

m0bi13, (edited ) to apple Polish
@m0bi13@pol.social avatar

Ciąg dalszy akcji Apple z PWA, czyli aplikacjami webowymi, których nie musisz instalować przez sklep:

  1. Jednak przywrócą, ale:
  2. Tylko w browserach na WebKit.

Czyli wprowadzili kozę, że nikt nie będzie miał, i wyprowadzili kozę, że WebKit/Safari będzie mieć.

Nikt już nie pamięta, że oczekiwane przez prawo UE miało być zarówno dopuszczenie innych niż WebKit silników renderujących, jak i dopuszczenie innych browserów do PWA.

Apple chce utrzymać monopol sklepu za wszelką cenę. Tu nie chodzi o technologię, a o marketing.

P.S. Nie daję linka do źródła, bo powiela idiotyczne tezy i ściemę Apple. Ale fakty są takie, jakie są. PWA jako apka z ikoną i powiadomieniami TYLKO na Safari/WebKit...

mappingsupport, to maps
@mappingsupport@m.ai6yr.org avatar

1/ 🧵 Like maps?

The GeoJPG web app version 2 is ready for use. 🥳 🎉 🍻 📣 You can view your own custom maps offline on both iOS and Android devices with NO ads, NO tracking, NO signup and NO fees.

I developed the GeoJPG web app as a public service and part of my way to ‘pay it forward’. This is not a commercial product of any nature. I am making this freely available simply because I can.

GeoJPG is not available in any app store. To install it for offline use, open the web app link, tap “Yes” and then carefully follow the instructions you will see.

Website: https://geojpg.com

Web App: https://geojpg.com/geojpg.html

amxmln, to apple
@amxmln@mastodon.design avatar

While I cannot overstate how happy I am that backed down and will continue to allow on in the EU, I don’t trust this peace. 🤔 Somehow it feels like they merely moved the phase-out to iOS 18. Let’s hope that won’t happen. 😅

For now a lot of motivation to work on my apps returned and hey—seems like my iPhone won’t turn into an expensive paper weight once 17.4 drops. 😉😅

callionica, to random
@callionica@mastodon.social avatar
  1. Apple disabled Homescreen web apps in iOS 17.4 beta in the EU (breaking functionality and making user data inaccessible)
  2. Apple claimed the breakage was prompted by the , the European regulation promoting fair business in digital goods and services
  3. Apple reversed course after public outcry, reenabling Homescreen web apps in Europe which continue to run in , Safari’s browser engine

https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/02/apple_reverses_pwa_decision/

callionica,
@callionica@mastodon.social avatar
  1. The Financial Times got a quote from an EU spokesperson that the DMA neither required nor justified removal of Homescreen web apps () in Europe.
  2. It remains to be seen whether requiring Homescreen web apps to run only in WebKit is compliant with the .
callionica,
@callionica@mastodon.social avatar
  1. The has a number of parts that are relevant to this situation with Homescreen web apps.

You can & should read the DMA yourself, and look out for:
A. The DMA aims to promote competition between apps and explicitly mentions web apps
B. OS vendors cannot provide private APIs for their own apps unavailable to 3rd party apps
C. Cannot reduce functionality to avoid obligations of the DMA
D. Gatekeepers can use “security” to sidestep some parts, but only minimally & w/ justification

callionica,
@callionica@mastodon.social avatar
  1. Homescreen web apps are implicated in two sets of requirements: the ones that apply to and the ones that apply to the .

It’s not possible to understand the situation and the legality of Apple’s responses to the DMA in regard to Homescreen web apps without looking at both sets of requirements.

CC: @owa

tixie, to random
@tixie@guerilla.studio avatar

🤭

endorama, to apple
@endorama@hachyderm.io avatar

Look how innovative is! First they released a technically impossible VR visor and now also the technically impossible PWAs in Europe. I LOVE innovation! 😘

kaiserkiwi, to apple
@kaiserkiwi@corteximplant.com avatar

Nice! Web Apps are here to stay! iOS 17.4 will still support them. I'm really glad Apple came to this decision as it would break my whole workflow and would make two of my web apps less nice.

https://9to5mac.com/2024/03/01/apple-home-screen-web-apps-ios-17-eu/

tomayac, to iOS
@tomayac@toot.cafe avatar

📢 Apple takes back the changes to Home Screen Web Apps in the European Union 🇪🇺: “We have received requests to continue to offer support for Home Screen web apps in iOS, therefore we will continue to offer the existing Home Screen web apps capability in the EU.” https://developer.apple.com/support/dma-and-apps-in-the-eu/

mappingsupport, to webdev
@mappingsupport@m.ai6yr.org avatar

Success!!

Apple has given up and announced that in the European Union version of iOS 17.4 'web apps' will be able to be installed on the homescreen and work offline. As the developer of the web apps FindMeSAR and GeoJPG, this is great news.

https://9to5mac.com/2024/03/01/apple-home-screen-web-apps-ios-17-eu/

tixie, to random
@tixie@guerilla.studio avatar

AAAAAND WE ARE BAAAACK BABY !!!

mysk, to apple
@mysk@mastodon.social avatar

Great news: PWAs are back in the EU, albeit only on WebKit.

Thanks a lot for everyone who echoed the concerns of many developers around the world. Your voice matters, and Apple has listened to it.

https://9to5mac.com/2024/03/01/apple-home-screen-web-apps-ios-17-eu/

caiocgo, (edited ) to linux
@caiocgo@vivaldi.net avatar

it has been almost a year since I have returned to using And it was only today (in fact a few minutes ago) that I have discoveried I can run websites as apps in using without any plugins.
I must say I have drank one can of beer since I came home from work but still, I am mesmerized about this.
Of course one can choose the browser they use for this.
This is really awesome.
Linux is awesome.

gnomelibre,
@gnomelibre@mamot.fr avatar

@caiocgo

Wasn't the possibility of installing abandoned by a few years ago? 🤔

https://www.fastcompany.com/90597411/mozilla-firefox-no-ssb-pwa-support

mysk, to Bulgaria
@mysk@mastodon.social avatar

PWAs won't work on iOS, but only in the EU.
Q: Why is it a big deal?
A: 🧵

Most businesses choose PWA apps because they want to:
1- Avoid app stores
2- Write one code for both iOS and Android

With Apple removing PWA support in iOS for EU users, businesses now have to:
1- Write a PWA app for Android users and iOS users outside the EU
2- Write a native app for iOS users in the EU

🧵
1/X
@owa

mysk,
@mysk@mastodon.social avatar

🧵
2/X

Soon after that, businesses will realize that they have to adjust their plan:
1- Drop support for PWA for iOS because they already have a native iOS app which all iOS users can use
2- Since they already develop and maintain two apps (native iOS app and a PWA for Android), it's wiser to drop support for PWA altogether and develop a native app for Android too.

@owa

mysk,
@mysk@mastodon.social avatar

🧵
3/3

In the end, Progressive Web Apps will disappear. Although Apple has removed support for PWA in the EU only, the ripple effect of this change is poised to end PWAs entirely. This means businesses will have to rely on app stores and their gatekeepers again.

Regardless of whether you are a business or developer in or outside the EU, you will be affected. This is why you should sign this letter:

https://letter.open-web-advocacy.org

@owa

maugendre, to iPhone
@maugendre@hachyderm.io avatar

It has already been possible to change an 's default web browser through the "Settings" app since iOS 14.

has a March 6 legal deadline to introduce app sideloading in the European Union in order to comply with the Digital Markets Act , and iOS 17.4 will add support for this. will allow Apple users to download apps outside of the App Store, but the change will be limited to customers in the EU.

Now is an opportunity to improve your web experience… and your safety…

eric,
@eric@social.coop avatar

"As a result of the DMA the tech giant allows to install other browsers as defaults. Apple ensured that these browsers can no longer use WebKit because it would make them faster than Safari. To this end, the tech giant blocked the WebKit API in iOS 17.4."
https://www.techzine.eu/news/privacy-compliance/116980/apples-changes-to-comply-with-the-dma-opens-new-european-antitrust-investigation/

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