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Chanders

@Chanders@sciences.social

Professor of Sociology. Interests include publics, assemblages, middlebrow culture, where Europe & the new world meet. Mann, Bolano, Charlie Parker, Virginia Woolf.

Associate Editor of the International Journal of Press/Politics and Sociologica.

(he/him).

I’m from New York, live in Bologna, Italy, and work in Milan. There’s a lot of stuff I miss about the USA and a lot I don’t. I miss cornmeal and Mexican food primarily.

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Chanders, to twitter
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Seriously though when people use this thing it is literally exactly the same as , like, 100%. I mean better, but basically the same.

The differences between Mastodon and Twitter are 98% due to the frequency of use.

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jeffjarvis, to random
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Yes, I'm trying out Threads. But I still love you. Mastodon.

Chanders,
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@jeffjarvis I’m really hoping that they federate. I’d love to have access to all the future of media influencers and news brands that will end up there from within the much more pleasant environment here.

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People who fade out here, you think it's usually cause they get bored? If so, is that just an inevitable side effect of asking people to "be the algorithm"?

Chanders,
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@misc @design_law since at least 2016, Twitter was an endless shitpile of political fights, the main character of the day repeated every day, ambient friend content and the excuse that you could be on there “for work.” It is deliberately and algorithmically designed to be very addictive.

I find I’m on here in waves. Sometimes a lot and sometimes I don’t think about it for a week at a time. In that way it’s like everything else in my life that’s not family or work.

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New reading material has arrived in the post …

Chanders,
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@Theblueone that looks great.

Theblueone, to random
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My tolerance for anyone just being a snarky dick on social has dropped to about zero. If I engage with you on the level and you just respond with "LOL" and some snarky idiot comment, I just delete my shit, block, and move the fuck on. I no longer have time for any human for whom being an asshole online is their chosen personality.

Times have changed. This ain't the bird app anymore.

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@Theblueone and long term, this is the single best thing the migration to all these alternatives and the collapse of twitter has given us,- a chance to get out of the muck and decide what we want our user experience to be like.

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@Theblueone exactly. and you know what, some people may enjoy the performative snakry shitposting somewhere else. Good for them. enjoy it but don't bring it to me.

mariyadelano, to threads
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Alright. I will admit - I don't like a lot of the vibe on , don't like how they are promoting celebrities, or how clout and status centric it has been from literally the first hours at launch... BUT

Because I'm a and professional, I do think I'll be staying there as long as others do. I'm already finding other marketing & people who I haven't been in touch with since Twitter in Nov. + lovely to reconnect with the community.

The Fedi is my true love though

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@mariyadelano a lot of people are gonna go that way I think.

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@KatyPearce @aram @fheinderyckx @ICAHDQ @communicationscholars @Noshir @claesdevreese @ICA_CAT @PolComm

It seems like AOIR must have had a lot of these conversations already, is this correct Aram? Is there a way to do some knowledge transfer w/ ICA at some point?

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There will be lot of folks reading- or pretending to read- “American Prometheus”- as Christopher Nolan’s “Oppenheimer” hits the big screen.

But let me also put in a plug for Richard Rhodes “Making of the Atomic Bomb,” one of the great non-fiction books of the 20th century, up there with “The Power Broker” and Taylor Branch’s books on MLK.

https://www.amazon.com/Making-Atomic-Bomb-Richard-Rhodes/dp/1451677618

Chanders, to random
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Man Sinéad O’Connor really nailed it on the Catholic Church huh? Two decades ahead of her time.

Chanders, to random
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It’s 29c at 10pm and I’m reading Joan Didion write about The Doors. .

Chanders, to books
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Finally found an English language bookstore (in Milan) that sells used books in English (and is close enough to the Duomo that I can sometimes get there after work).

More than buying books, it finally seems I have a place to donate my used books, which will be a relief for our bookshelves 😉

People are shocked when I tell them there is no similar bookstore in Bologna (a university town through and through.) Welcome to the world Amazon has created.

Chanders, to random
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It’s not the AI, it’s the capitalism.

That’s it, that’s the root.

Chanders, to bluesky
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Is there a community on ? Or are there other academic communities there?

Not planning on going there, just genuinely curious. These communities are not here in any great strength after the last few months of 2022. My hunch was always just that they stated on Twitter, but as seems increasingly and genuinely non-functional, I do wonder what is going on.

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I genuinely miss my academic networks sometimes and I’ve also thought about those networks as an object of inquiry in my own scholarship. Just really curious about what the next few years will be like.

Chanders,
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What are you finding @alex ? I know you are active in both places … is it a division of labor where BlueSky is for clowning and shitposting and here is more serious, while Twitter keeps getting hollowed out?

Chanders,
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@inquiline @alex without having actually ever been there it seems to replicate a lot of the things that I found stressful on Twitter.

Chanders, to threads
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Some questions that are probably obvious to everyone but not me.

  1. If, at some point, threads adds ActivityPub integration, I will be able to follow Thread accounts just like I do Mastodon accounts?

  2. There is a lot of fear about Threads, in part because it could end up sucking up all the Fediverse data?

1/2

Chanders,
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(Con)

  1. I’d have the same discovery problems finding new Threads accounts that I’d like to follow as I do on normal Mastodon?

I’m just wondering if I can start to rebuild some of my Twitter network, assuming they go to threads, from the safety of this lovely Ivory app. 🙂

2/2

Chanders, to random
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I’d hate to be the person at random news organization x trying to plan the social media platform strategy for 2024.

Theblueone, to random
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Look, this is my doomer side speaking, but kinda getting the feeling that Mastodon and Bluesky were Rosencrantz and Gildenstern; Threads is Fortinbras and he just walked onstage, stepping over the slowly cooling body of Elon Musk.

Chanders,
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@Theblueone I guess at the very least this is an experiment; and on some level a replication experiment of what went down with the idea of “the web” 20 years ago. We are gonna learn a lot about why things work the way they do any a year from now.

Chanders, to bluesky
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Just RTd a bunch of it, but the protocol analysis by @sam is really worth a read.

Chanders,
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I would add to the analysis by @sam- "I think the fundamental reason why we keep seeing more and more bullshit protocols and projects pop up like this is one fundamental mindset: a refusal to attribute the problems of the modern internet solely to capitalism"- is that a lot of the conversation about "user friendliness" lacks an analysis of the way slick design is used to mask fundamentally regressive infrastructure choices.

https://urbanists.social/@sam/110340918554679060

Chanders, to random
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“By comparison, every time I open up Bluesky what I immediately see is a bunch of jokes from my favorite twitter personalities. They’re having fun over there. The people who made Twitter good are all congregating on Bluesky. They’re relaxing and misbehaving. It’s awesome.” -@davekarpf

https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/bluesky-is-just-twitter-without-the

Chanders,
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@davekarpf BlueSky is an interesting test of the question of how much of Twitter’s appeal was basically reality TV-esque.

I’d argue that the secret of academic twitter was that it allowed people do vicariously rubberneck the celebs and the political pileups while they pretended to work.

But it’s unclear if BlueSky will do the second thing. Are all our old friends there? Are people nerding out about dumb shit?

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